S&T to activism?

Hey y'all. Going to be a trading intern my junior summer at GS/JPM/MS coming from non-Ivy target. I've seen a few threads on people in S&T trying to exit to PE but nothing recent.

Here's my thinking so far:

1) Try to internally lateral to IB, recruit for PE or activist funds directly
2) Internally lateral to ER (a lot easier), recruit for HFs, pivot to activism later
3) Distressed debt trading, jump to special sits fund with activist tinge
4) FT recruit...?

Has anyone done something similar or can provide any color/advice? If it makes sense to FT recruit, what types of firms/roles would y'all recommend targeting?

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, transitioning from S&T to activism or related fields like PE, activist hedge funds, or special situations funds is challenging but not impossible. Here’s a breakdown of your options and advice:

  1. Internal Lateral to IB, Then Recruit for PE or Activist Funds:

    • This is a common and traditional path. Moving to IB provides a broader skill set and deal experience, which is highly valued in PE and activist funds. However, internal lateral moves to IB can be competitive, especially at firms like GS/JPM/MS. If you can make this move, it positions you well for on-cycle PE recruiting or activist fund roles.
  2. Internal Lateral to ER, Then Recruit for HFs or Pivot to Activism:

    • Lateral moves to Equity Research (ER) are generally easier than to IB. ER can provide a strong foundation for hedge fund roles, especially long/short equity or activist funds. Activist funds value deep research and understanding of companies, which aligns well with ER experience. However, the pivot to activism might take longer compared to the IB-to-PE route.
  3. Distressed Debt Trading to Special Situations Fund with Activist Tinge:

    • This is a niche but viable path. Distressed debt trading experience can be a strong fit for special situations funds, which often have an activist component. These funds value skills in credit analysis, restructuring, and understanding complex capital structures. If you’re interested in activism with a credit focus, this could be a great option.
  4. FT Recruiting:

    • Full-time recruiting is another option, but it’s highly competitive. For activism, you’d want to target funds with a focus on shareholder engagement or special situations. Firms like Elliott, Icahn, or other activist funds with permanent or semi-permanent capital are ideal targets. Keep in mind that activist funds often prefer candidates with IB or PE experience, so you’ll need to highlight transferable skills from S&T.

Recommendations:

  • Focus on Optionality: As highlighted in WSO threads, early-career decisions should maximize your optionality. If you’re unsure about your long-term goals, prioritize roles that keep multiple exit opportunities open.
  • Network Aggressively: Activist funds and special situations funds are small and selective. Building relationships with headhunters (e.g., CPI, Oxbridge, SG) and professionals in the space is crucial.
  • Develop Relevant Skills: Whether through lateral moves or FT recruiting, focus on skills like financial modeling, company valuation, and understanding corporate governance. These are critical for activism roles.
  • Consider Distressed or Special Sits: If activism is your ultimate goal, gaining experience in distressed debt or special situations funds can be a stepping stone.

Each path has its pros and cons, but the key is to align your moves with your long-term vision while keeping your options open. Let me know if you’d like more specific advice on any of these paths!

Sources: PE Lateral Recruiting Advice/Stories/Help?, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equity/going-from-mm-investment-bank-to-mega-fund?customgpt=1, Activist hedge funds: comp, hours, recruiting, Investment Banking to Private Equity - 6 Things You Should Know, Q&A: Barclays IB to MM Private Equity

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I like that activism enables you to think about both the nitty gritty, operational element and the big picture market/directional questions. Also have been reading a few books and the deep fundamental thinking seems attractive

 

Makes sense, talked to a few desk analysts and sounded like an interesting role. I had still thought banking might be a better opportunity just because of the sheer number of 2+2 in activism.

Do you think the number of ex-bankers in activism is a product of the perception that you don't develop an operational skillset in trading relative to banking/PE or lots of ex-bankers compared to fewer ex-desk analysts?

 

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