Body hacks and energy boostings for productivity

Hi guys,

As I am preparing for a potential career in investment banking, I decide to mimic the work dynamics at an IB to train my brain and body. I am looking for some advice regarding time management, body hacks, and energy boosting methods.

Each day, I wake up at 5:30 am and read everything I find on the internet about that day. Then I have breakfast around 6:30am while watching market videos. After breakfast, I start working on various tasks. I give myself a one-hour lunch break and hop back to work until 8pm at which time I have dinner. Then, I read books until bedtime at 11pm. This schedule aggregates about 15 hours of work/reading per day. As I still have 6.5 hours of sleep, I think my plan is a good balance between working a lot and getting enough rest. Obviously, working at an IB will be even more demanding. However, I want to train myself step by step without burning out.

I have followed this schedule for two weeks until two days ago. The problem is that I have become tired very easily. My brain starts to procrastinate more often and demands more napping hours during the day. I try drinking coffee but somehow it makes me even sleepier. Thus, I have deviated significantly from my schedule. This worries me that maybe I am not fit physically/mentally for IB's working rhythm.

Is there a better way to transform myself from a "potato bag" to a working machine? I love being productive and on top of my game not only for IB purposes but also for my personal development as a whole. However, my body's weakness is preventing me from that. I would really appreciate your opinions/expertise on this matter :)

 

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I didn't say I read news and watch videos all day. I only do those activities early morning and before sleep. During the day, I do actual investment analysis work and study for credentials on the side.

 

Still a different ball game but that's better than reading the news all day. I'd say you have a heads up against the kids that are training for the long hours by binge drinking until 4 a.m. daily though. You seem to have an obsessive personality. Me too. It's not fun. Try and enjoy yourself some while you can.

 

1) You're lacking a gym routine so you need to get that resolved 2) With this ridiculous schedule where is your time allotment for chasing sloots and going out? In college I'd drink/go out like 3 times/week lol.

Stop being so high strung, you don't need to "prep" for an IB schedule. You'll learn to put up with it in your internships and in your first year. Enjoy your life and experience college like how it's meant to be experienced.

Not to say you should be a TOTAL degenerate and fail all your classes, but let loose a little. Nobody wants to work with a nerd that read and studied all day and can't go out for a few drinks on the weekend or doesn't know how to talk to girls.

"Well, you know, I was a human being before I became a businessman." -- George Soros
 

Yes I'm adding gym to my schedule now. This schedule is designed to build my resilience in the short term. I don't plan on living like this my whole life. I know there will be occasions when I should have fun and I will when the chance arises. Having fun is easy and I'm happy to do that, but right now I'm trying to push my productivity limit. I will keep your words in mind.

 

You can train your "resilience" all you want, but if you're an awkward kid that studies for 15 hours per day you won't get hired.

Plain and simple.

There are tons of smart candidates that also have strong social acumen and they will beat the guy who studied 15 hours/day every single time. Regardless if their GPA is a 3.5 vs a 3.8 etc.

All myself and everyone else here are saying is that along with training your "productivity limit" you need to allow ample time for social development as well. In your current routine mix you seem to be severely lacking in your social exposure and it will come back to bite you in the ass. This isn't to rip on you, it's just a glaring problem with the way you perceive one should prepare for a career in finance.

Good luck.

"Well, you know, I was a human being before I became a businessman." -- George Soros
 

I'm going to start a new IB boot camp but instead of financial modeling etc... We're going to work on brushing teeth, the banker way. Live action drills: 4 am emergency email wake ups, people yelling at you to test how you respond, blasting heavy metal while you try to complete a DCF. Quizzes on appropriate watches, suits, and loafers.

We will discuss the proper way investment bankers order things, coffee, booze, bring lunch vs. buy lunch, an auto lease, & a luxury apartment.

& of course banker hell week.

 
StaphyBone:
I'm going to start a new IB boot camp but instead of financial modeling etc... We're going to work on brushing teeth, the banker way. Live action drills: 4 am emergency email wake ups, people yelling at you to test how you respond, blasting heavy metal while you try to complete a DCF. Quizzes on appropriate watches, suits, and loafers.

We will discuss the proper way investment bankers order things, coffee, booze, bring lunch vs. buy lunch, an auto lease, & a luxury apartment.

& of course banker hell week.

sounds like the white version of 'get hard' with will ferrill and kevin hart

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Hey let's be dicks to a young guy and pretend we didn't have the same sorts of fears and never asked questions the old grumps laughed at.

OP I'm not a big believer in"training" to suffer. In the infantry I didn't become better at being out in the field for a week with wet feet by practicing being cold and tired. It just sucked and I got through it. Suck it up when the time comes and you'll be fine.

 

The worst thing you could do for this guy is reinforce his current behavior. A little roughing up is the price you pay for good advice. Plus it gives honest feedback on how his training is perceived.

 

Sounds like you're intentionally making your life suck before getting into a demanding career (which is "potentially" when?).

Bad idea, if you're good/smart enough to get in, there are many good resources to adjust to the lifestyle and you've already found one of the best (this website). Live your life and enjoy yourself before you make that plunge, you'll thank yourself later. Sounds like you have a shit ton of free time, a luxury that you won't have again for quite a while.

 

Interviews for 2018 IB positions are coming in one week. I guess that's why I'm very stressed about all these IB standards. As a recent graduate getting a contract job in 2 months, I do have some free time now to bring myself to the next level (or just enjoy my life like you suggested).

 

You are probably one of the weirdest people I have ever found on this website. Go learn to be normal or I'm not sure how you expect anyone to be able to deal with you. This honestly seemed like a troll post until I saw the consistency of your follow up comments.

 

Best preparation for success in IB is to focus on fundamental corporate finance (accounting, valuation, etc) and broaden your perspectives on life so that you can flourish in conversations with senior members. No matter how smart you are - if you cannot create conversations, you will have no upward mobility within IB / PE.

Seems from your comments just graduated and are looking for opportunities within IB. More than anything else, you should be networking like a mad person. No amount of reading will push your resume through the door.

 

Since you mention having interviews fairly soon, I'd like to drop some wisdom on you: don't ever tell an interviewer you "practiced" staying up late if they ask you whether you're ready for the job. They will think you're weird, in the same way I think you're weird by reading this.

 

As many people are saying I'm weird, I will definitely not disclose that lol. I almost planned to say that, though, because I have seen some people branding themselves as being able to stare at the monitor for 20+ hours straight. I actually thought that was something cool to say to IB recruiters...

 

Revelation: OP is Asian.

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Beta-Alanine. It's the chemical in pre-workout that gives you the tingling feeling. You can buy it pure on bulk supplements, assess your tolerance where it doesn't make you want to claw your face off but still gives you a little jolt. Infinitely better than coffee or energy drinks. Sounds like your going to start working out and cut the IB mimicking routine, but as someone in a similar position trying to break into IB, I try to fill my day with stuff I enjoy and that makes me a more interesting person where I'm busy 12-16 hours a day, but not where it's a self-hazing type thing. Ie. work 8 hours a day, work out, golf, and spend time with friends while also prepping for interviews, staying up to date with the news, etc.

 

Sure thing, friend. For exactly these occasions I have made a video explaining everything. [Mushroom coffee](

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Jesus. I'm equally as workaholic but your commitment is too ridiculous. First and foremost, you don't have to follow the IBD schedule. Just follow your body's clock and focus on getting the job. I would only worry on "fitting" into IBD schedule only after getting the job. After all, maybe you want to change your mind on your career someday.

Secondly, the waking time varies between groups. If you are in S&T, you are waking up at the right time (4AM to 5AM). But if you are in M&A, the wake up time is around 7 to 8 AM. So know if you want to follow markets or more into advisory.

Lastly, if you are worried that you would not be able to fit in the schedule, you will only once after you start your job. The whole stress and adrenaline in your body from the firm's work and MD/VP's screams will allow you to power through +15 hours work days. By the way, you know that bankers actually don't really work +80h or +100hours the whole time? I don't know about S&T, but for M&A, there is a lot of time waiting for the clients to send their data or waiting for new drafts to appear, so you are not working your 100% for the whole 80+ hours. Just my 2 cents. For now, just enjoy your time before actually fully entering IBD.

Tip on coffee : Coffee reacts differently to people and I think we are the same; when I drink coffee, my body reacts by falling asleep as it detests caffeine. If you want to stay awake, drink a warm tea to warm your body up or eat a small snack that doesn't contain any sugar. Cheers.

 

Thank you very much man. I am more interested in M&A. I always thought I had to pump myself up for 80-100 straight. It's good to know there is some down time. I will take your snack idea into account. Actually, since receiving people's opinion on this thread, I have modified my schedule and currently living more happily and energetic.

 

Focus on getting into investment Banking first, then seriously consider if this is what you want to dedicate 2-3+ years of your life to.

I would be more focused on getting your body to its peak physical condition in preparation for what is unequivocally an unhealthy, taxing, and potentially physically & mentally damaging experience. The lifestyle of 80-100 hours of work involving limited physically fitness, no exposure to sunlight, and high mental attrition is an extreme way of living that 90% of the population can't do without burning out. If not done with a sane mind, healthy diet, and a shit-ton of discipline, IB is not a health7 experience for your body or brain.

For now:

  • Eat healthy

  • Work out

  • Meditate, Yoga, anything that helps you get in a good physical & mental state

  • Network, network, network

  • Focus And learn only what you need to get that job

The rest is just pissing in the wind. You will be forced to adapt or drop out if or when you get the job. Focus on that first then just minimize the inevitable damage.

Lower your expectations & for sure Chill you half-a-fuckin-meatball.

Don't break yourself on the way to making yourself
 

Thank you for your input. As a newbie in this field, I was very nervous to deal with uncertainties. That was the reason behind my crazy plan. But now, I have made changes accordingly with people's advice. I'm doing much better now.

 

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