BofA new FT analyst making anti-semitic remarks

In case you missed it - a girl on a training call at BofA was not muted whilst holding some anti-semitic speech. Check Wall Street Confesssion's instagram post/story (& other finmeme accounts)

So quick reminder to be completely muted and avoid saying controversial stuff whilst on calls, anything can land on the front page of the Daily Mail easily. And I am sure that she was a reader of the daily mail and enjoyed when it happened to others, but not sure if she'll still enjoy that.

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Jul 16, 2020 - 8:26pm

Cool it with the anti-semetic remarks

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  • Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
Jul 16, 2020 - 8:36pm

Impressive. Very nice. Lets see Paul Allen's speech.

Jul 18, 2020 - 2:36pm

Oh I forgot. Jamie's dating someone from the ACLU

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  • Analyst 1 in CB
Jul 17, 2020 - 7:37am

If I'm not mistaken, she unmuted herself while arguing with her jealous boyfriend about the guys in her group (rumor is she cheated with another analyst in M&A). She then referred to one of her co-analysts as "dweeby little Jewish ass" multiple times - and said her male coworkers are jealous since she was one of the "hot analysts" on the team and not dating one of them.

In front of the entire BofA corporate banking, capital markets, and investment banking class.

  • Prospect in IB - Gen
Jul 17, 2020 - 12:07am

can someone translate what she's saying? i can't understand her with all the times she says "like"

  • Intern in IB - Ind
Jul 17, 2020 - 12:19pm

Lmao finance instagram meme accounts are the heroes we don't deserve.

  • Prospect in 
Jul 17, 2020 - 8:06am

Arent you highlighted on the screen when you speak in these zoom calls? How did people/the speaker not know she was unmuted? Damn this recordings gon do some serious damage.

Jul 20, 2020 - 5:10pm

There's an order that Zoom shows people in. If she didn't have her camera on, she'd be shown after the instructor (who has video on) when he's not talking, and when he is talking, he would show instead.

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  • Partner in IA
Jul 17, 2020 - 10:07am

With her syntax, I would not have even hired her in the first place. She needs to articulate better.

Can people please stop using "like" and "Umm?" Now I sound like Judge Judy....

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Ind
Jul 17, 2020 - 4:35pm

I can only imagine how her interviews went. That would've been so obnoxious to listen her "um", "like", "totally", "so yeah" her way through the interview. But I'm assuming daddy knows the right people and she'll bump any groups diversity quota for hiring a woman. At the end of the day, not a fireable offense really. More of a slap on the wrist and suffer the next 2 years as the rest of the juniors in your group hate you and don't help you out at all. She'll be fine. I swear every year during full-time training there's at least a couple idiots at every bank that do something so stupid they get fired or close to it. Amazes me every year. There's a lot of people out there that are book smart and can memorize things for a test but have 0 street smarts / social awareness.

  • Prospect in IB-M&A
Jul 18, 2020 - 12:09pm

She graduated magna cum laude in econ at Wharton so I don't think your diversity assumption fits in right. She's book smart but I'm not sure about other kinds of smarts

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Ind
Jul 17, 2020 - 10:20am

im praying to god someone tips off Boa hr with the links of this going viral. dudes have got pinched for way less

  • Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
Jul 17, 2020 - 10:19am

Can someone update us on if she's getting any consequences? Can anyone confirm whether or not she's in training today

  • Prospect in IB-M&A
Jul 17, 2020 - 10:21am

Since she's jewish is she gonna get away with saying something against jews? Idk black people can get away with the n word so I don't see why not. But obviously that's not the only problem just genuinely curious lol

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Ind
Jul 17, 2020 - 10:27am

Someone will most definitely do it. This deserves way more publicity than it has already received. Maybe will expose the kind of scum that get into these jobs.

  • Analyst 2 in IB - ECM
Jul 17, 2020 - 11:04am

Understand this whole thing is crazy unprofessional and she deserves to be fired but is "dweeby little jewish guy" all she said? How is that anti-semitic? Like if she said "dweeby little black guy" or "dweeby little asian guy" would that be racist? I haven't heard the comments yet to be clear.

Also, why do Jewish people get a special word for racist?

  • Analyst 2 in IB - ECM
Jul 17, 2020 - 11:09am
Prospect in IB-M&A:

Because judaism isn't a race....

This is actually interesting. As far as I know converts are treated as "different" from those who inherit Judaism. So I am kind of confused as to how it's seen. I had a girl once come up to my friend and ask if he was Jewish because he "looks" Jewish (she was Jewish and looking for a Jewish guy to hook up with for the night), how can you "look" like a religion?

Also, refer to the above where posters are saying that a blonde-hair, blue-eyed, chic can't possibly be Jewish.

  • Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
Jul 17, 2020 - 11:14am

I think one point is that all of those statements are using race or religion as a qualifier for the person. Why is their religion relevant? why is their race relevant? by using it to describe the person it inherently has a negative connotation, if that makes sense. Why not just say "dweeby little guy?"

  • Intern in HF - EquityHedge
Jul 17, 2020 - 2:55pm

I think it has more with her showing her true colors. She straight up sounds like a shitty uneducated person. making an unnecessary remark about someone's race is just icing on the cake

  • Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
Jul 17, 2020 - 3:36pm

I agree, I don't particularly see how this is anti-Semitic (if the definition is hostility or discrimination against Jews). From the clip I heard, and I don't know if I heard it right, she said "your Jewish ass" or something - seems like she's using it as an adjective to describe the guy and, even though the connotation is negative, she's not attacking his beliefs or him because of his beliefs.

If someone referred to me as you "European/Christian/Atheist" ass, I wouldn't find it particularly offensive. Then again I'm not Jewish so it may come across differently.

Jul 18, 2020 - 12:46am

I would say you can possibly make the argument that dweeby is being used specifically to depict Jews as weak and spineless, as has been a stereotype in history. Like describing an African American individual as a Hoodlum. Just a thought

  • Associate 1 in IB-M&A
Jul 18, 2020 - 11:03am

Unfortunately, this perspective is exactly what continues to justify and perpetuate racial bias (whether conscious or unconscious).

  • Prospect in IB - Gen
Jul 17, 2020 - 12:16pm

At the end of the day, talking poorly about your co-workers will only spell trouble for you. Imagine getting hired while talking like that lol. Lots of filler words in her syntax.

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
Jul 17, 2020 - 12:18pm

Please hold the MS but I've only seen snippets and haven't heard anything anti-Semitic, let alone the word "Jew" being said. So, could someone please clarify what was actually said that was regarded as anti-Semitic?

  • Prospect in IB - Gen
Jul 17, 2020 - 12:22pm

How did she graduate magna cum laude lol? Either way, I hope she at least gets put on unpaid leave for improper conduct during a work call. No wonder well-polished non-targets are salty.

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Ind
Jul 17, 2020 - 1:20pm

Had the unfortunate pleasure of witnessing this live. Everything stated here is true and I'm hoping HR axes the fuck out of her.

Jul 17, 2020 - 1:51pm

Now this is an easy way to have to change your name for the rest of your life. good riddance lol
Edit: I feel sortve bad tbh. We should all agree this level of statement is shitty but shouldn't destroy your career forever

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  • Intern in IB - Ind
Jul 17, 2020 - 2:26pm

I feel like had this been done in private, she wouldn't have faced anything more than a slap on the wrist. The problem now is that since it's public, it presents a huge PR issue for the firm.

I agree though. In any other case, I'd hope she could just learn from it, but the specific circumstances surrounding this will brand her for ever.

  • Intern in IB - Gen
Jul 17, 2020 - 3:04pm

I'm a Jew at a BB - everyone feels different about their faith and background and is more or less sensitive about it. Regardless, no one wants to be described as "dweeb" followed by their faith or race. I'm sure she wouldn't want to be described as "that b*!#$ from Wharton", nor would a Muslim want to be called "the ____ Muslim" so on and so forth for blacks, catholics etc.

I don't know if this is full on anti-semitism that I've seen around the city and other places, but it's definitely insensitive to just be throwing around someone's faith as a way to refer to them. It's 2020, not 1920. Just shows poor judgement, lack of class or sophistication on her part...feel bad, but hope they throw her out on the street and teach her a lesson.

I also hope that jewish kid on the team makes top bucket and laughs in her face 2 years from now as he hops to BX and she's middle office at the local Chase branch

Jul 17, 2020 - 3:08pm

the only problem i have is that guys have gotten canned for way way less

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Jul 17, 2020 - 3:50pm

Honestly I feel bad for her. Should there be some repercussions for this? Yes - it was highly unprofessional and a really bad look to do this on a company-wide conference call.

However, should she be publicly shamed and called out like some idiots above who thought it would be funny to post her name? No. I don't think a public character assassination is anywhere near justified in this case - using Jewish as a descriptor isn't something that is going to be accepted in today's environment, but let's be honest, it was literally just used as an adjective and not in a stereotypical / derogatory way. I mean obviously this is my personal view on this, but if somebody replaced "Jewish" with my ethnicity, I wouldn't call them anti-[my ethnicity].

Realistically worst case is she should've just been fired, and at best reprimanded internally, and then use this as a learning experience and then move forward. But she didn't really hurt anybody (cheating rumors aside) and whoever was the host should've just kicked her off the call or muted her. Clearly different conversation if she had said something like "that fucking Jew."

  • Intern in IB - Gen
Jul 17, 2020 - 3:53pm

I'll agree with that. Just think she should get the axe and learn her lesson. I'm sure she feels bad now, definitely will be more careful in the future. She should apologize to every one she knows who would be hurt and take off for a few weeks.

Not assuming she's a bad human being, just not a very smart or sensitive one.

Jul 17, 2020 - 6:32pm

Still seems like "Jew" is being used as a descriptor term rather than anything anti-semitic even in your last example. How is it different?

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Jul 17, 2020 - 4:04pm

This cancel culture is insane. Y'all want to ruin someone's life for a comment she made saying "dweeby little _____ ass" . Is saying the J word racist? If a jewish/black/latino woman made this comment about a white/catholic guy, this would be a non-story. ffs. You don't even know the person. You can grow up without having your dreams and years of hard work crushed.

  • Intern in IB - Ind
Jul 17, 2020 - 8:12pm

My two cents- I believe you can call someone ugly/ dumb/ whatever without alluding to their race or religion. It sounds, to a lot of folks, as if she thinks the guy in said situation is unattractive because he is jewish. She used it in a derogatory manner. Which is quite insensitive and outright nasty. I'm sure most jewish people don't have a problem with being called jewish, but it always boils down to tone and context. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Jul 20, 2020 - 12:05am
swe_mba_95:

This cancel culture is insane. Y'all want to ruin someone's life for a comment she made saying "dweeby little _____ ass" . Is saying the J word racist? If a jewish/black/latino woman made this comment about a white/catholic guy, this would be a non-story. ffs. You don't even know the person. You can grow up without having your dreams and years of hard work crushed.

LMAO.

Literally when has 'catholic' or 'evangelical' ever been use in an aggressive context like this. No annoying evangelical christian dude was ever called 'fucking evangelical dweeb' i guarantee you that. Even 'white' is more recent esp in relation to police brutality but all my life ive heard terms like "fucking Jew", "fucking Muslim", "fucking n***" etc being thrown about. Now you can say these (the first 2 imentioned) are just calling them who they are and hence why is that an issue but whats relevant is the tone and the intent behind it. Thats where the problem comes.

Also the fact that you are reducing someone to just their race (which was a literal lottery) as their identifier rather than any achievements or things they may have about them which they worked for and can be referenced as.

To close off Ill say I definitely do not want her 'cancelled.' At most she should be given a light clip on the ear and asked to be careful. This was a private conversation and she is 22 or sth. However, to claim that ' if this was a catholic guy, this would be a non-story" is blatantly false and reeks of victim complex

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  • Intern in IB-M&A
Jul 17, 2020 - 4:27pm

I just want to know how her colleagues feel about her, especially the ones she called "dweeby little Jewish ass".

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Ind
Jul 17, 2020 - 6:29pm

homie she laid down the heat for 5 minutes on a IBD wide call infront of hundreds of analysts without even realizing the instructor sat there waiting for her to stfu ... Anti-Semitic comments or not, let alone blasting her teammates who were also in that training

Jul 17, 2020 - 6:15pm

shortcuts:
Alt-A to mute at the beginning of a call.
Hold the space bar down to unmute. release space bar and you're back on mute.

  • CIO in HF - Macro
Jul 18, 2020 - 2:55am

Facts. The fencers and football players are always the most retarded. At Harvard, most of them come in with ~1250 SATs and don't know that the word "apart" means separated and isn't synonymous with "part of".

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
Jul 18, 2020 - 12:53am

Religious Jewish person at BB, I personally think what she said is problematic and agree that if I guy called a girl by something similarly derogatory, that person would be axed before weeks end. The problem with today's culture is that people will defend her rather than think of how they would act if it was a different person.

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