re-ib-ny:
Some firms will embed some of their depreciation into other I/S line items (like COGS or G&A), so the D&A item on the I/S does not necessarily pick up all of the firm's D&A in a reporting period. The line item on the CF/S, however, will capture all of it, because all of it must be backed out of Net Income to get to CFFO.

What he said. Ignore other posts.

 
esbanker:
kidflash:
D&A is not a cash item so it's not included on CF/s

You're joking, right?

What do you mean? You start from NI then add back D&A because it's a non-cash expense... so it's not included on the cashflow statements.

Sorry, I mean just depreciation. My mistake. Am I just being a total idiot?

 
kidflash:
Oh... I guess I didn't understand the wording. By it's not included, I meant the expense is eliminated from the statement of cash flows... My mistake on my wording.
I mean it's really not. It is only an expense on the I/S because you're considering D&A as occurring over the lifecycle of whatever item you purchased, even though you paid the cost up-front when you purchased the item(s). It's just not a "use of cash", but you're not eliminating anything, nor are you "adding" cash even though it's conceptually easy to think about it that way.
 
Vontropnats:
kidflash:
Oh... I guess I didn't understand the wording. By it's not included, I meant the expense is eliminated from the statement of cash flows... My mistake on my wording.
I mean it's really not. It is only an expense on the I/S because you're considering D&A as occurring over the lifecycle of whatever item you purchased, even though you paid the cost up-front when you purchased the item(s). It's just not a "use of cash", but you're not eliminating anything, nor are you "adding" cash even though it's conceptually easy to think about it that way.

This sums it up.

Capitalist
 
Professor Shortie:
I'm a professor at an ivy teaching FSA and financial modeling. Companies allocate D&A to a number of line items, including CGS and SGA. Sometimes you can find the detail in the notes, but sometimes you can't. The D&A amount from the SCF is the one to use in developing your model. If you have other questions let me know.

This. Can be in cogs, or any op ex. Rd, s and m, g and a.

-- "Those who say don't know, and those who know don't say."
 

A tempore explicabo hic dicta doloribus id. Ipsam quidem nulla aut. Ut nemo eum facilis dolor quia quas aut.

Enim quam quis dolorem sunt. Accusamus ratione nam rem aut aut. Ut consequatur amet quia hic quos debitis. Fugiat libero voluptates ab debitis voluptates deserunt.

 

Animi qui libero rerum eligendi distinctio non rerum architecto. Pariatur quos sunt ut sint ipsum id tenetur. Tempore praesentium delectus est fugiat voluptatibus qui.

Ut provident recusandae molestiae quaerat. Labore sed eveniet numquam.

Alias velit aliquid minima earum nisi nam. Debitis alias aut quisquam dignissimos quod sed. Earum porro facere eos nam eveniet et unde. Rerum velit tenetur iusto sed aut non.

People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for freedom of thought which they seldom use.

Career Advancement Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Goldman Sachs 19 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. New 98.3%
  • Lazard Freres 02 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 03 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (19) $385
  • Associates (87) $260
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (14) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (66) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (205) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (146) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
3
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
4
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
5
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
6
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
7
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
8
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
9
Linda Abraham's picture
Linda Abraham
98.8
10
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”