Hacks to Make You More Successful
I came across this article that discusses the benefits of a cold shower on your life. I have tried taking cold showers and find it is quite beneficial.
I have heard that this is one of the habits of successful people as it improves your mood, reduces stress, treats depression, and can even help with weight loss. It keeps you more alert and really wakes you up.
Source: http://www.rd.com/health/wellness/cold-shower/
- Do you take cold or warm showers? Do you feel it makes a difference if you take a cold shower?
- Do you have any other hacks that you often follow to improve your productivity and well-being?
I hate cold showers but every year in December I jump in to the Long Island Sound....for charity. It is pretty cold but invigorating at the same time. My mood is pretty lifted after and I get a good shot of energy.
Isn't that also in the 4-hour body by Tim Ferriss?
I cringe every time I see somebody refer to anything/everything as a "hack" or, even worse, "life hack."
Wow, you must be fun at parties.
Know any good party life hacks I can try?
The guy who says "you must be fun at parties" is always 100% guaranteed to be the guy that is the least fun person at parties.
missed you Hugh.
My man!
I do not take cold showers, however, intakenlig hot showers so my wife gets to take a cold shower! I workout in the morning. Just doing some calisthenics and stretching helps to wake me up along with giving me more energy throughout the day.
I take a cold shower every day and do athletics outdoors in just shorts all winter. Also try to hit the sauna 1-2 times a week.
I eat water and drink hard-boiled eggs for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I fly to the Amazon rainforest on weekends to meal-prep freshly picked acai that I picked with my teeth after fighting terrifying ants with trump hand-sized teeth.
I have found my productivity has been enhanced and I mentally think in VBA.
those sound like some huge teeth if I do say so myself
Just follow JP Sears on Youtube.
His Channel
Life hack: pay people to do things for you.
Cold showers remind me of power outages and broken showers. Those make me feel poor and depressed.
Nice life hack here:
If you don't sleep ever, you have that much more time to go do things and be productive. Also don't eat for even more time (besides lunch is for wimps)
In general, my experience is a lot of these so-called life hacks won't really "move the needle" when it comes to making you successful. Your average dude who has a 2.6 GPA and 600 GMAT isn't all of a sudden going to make dean's list and start getting accepted to MBA business schools ">M7 schools. These hacks really just help on the margins.
The one life hack I will say that does work is a healthy lifestyle (i.e. exercise and balanced diet). Pretty much everyone I know who has undergone such has said it has literally changed their life.
Average dude don't got a 2.6 GPA
You're right, that's way too generous.
This article is really interesting.
I take warm/hot showers.
I have found that LARGE amounts of LSD boosts my CREATIVITION and INNOVATIVY.
Sounds similar to the SV guys who microdose LSD for "creativity" and "productive" purposes. Hmmmmm
My favorite life hack?
Write down goals. You're just more likely to do something when you've got a checklist to keep referencing. I look back at what I've done the past 3-4 years compared to the previous 20 and the disparity is ridiculous.
This. I developed checklist keeping as a means of survival in my first job. The amount I accomplished in my first year at work probably surpassed the sum total of effort I had put in on all academic work in my life prior to that point.
trust in The Liquor - drink as much and as often as possible
Cold showers are great, but not quite as good as warm showers
Let me know if there are any more items I can help clarify
Playing some basketball before work does the job for me, but the borderline between feeling empowered or needing a Red Bull mid-day is pretty damn thin.
Hack your Everyday Life to Invest in Your Career (Originally Posted: 03/27/2014)
Networking can be an awkward or forced feeling, but we all go to these coffees and dinners because it is part of our careers. What if we started using the mundane parts of our lives to accomplish not only our personal tasks, but our professional networking as well?
We all have things we do away from the office like: buy groceries, go to the gym, some of us are a part of a religious group, get our hair-cut, etc. I am convinced that unlike focused networking events, the contacts I meet as a part of my everyday life are the strongest contributors to my success. I decided to put that to the test by hacking the mundane personal tasks of life and have found it to be 100% true.
I meet people that would never grant me a coffee or dinner if I called their office. I receive career advice from busy executives that most likely don't participate in any formalized mentoring. And I have hopefully been able to reciprocate in whatever way a young man in his mid 30s can for these new contacts.
Go Where your Targets Are This might seem simple, but the first step is to figure out where to go. If you are looking for a job you need to put yourself in places where you will run into people that can help you get there. I changed gyms because I found out that a large pool of my target clients workout at a certain place. I am paying $20 more per month to be a member of this gym, but I have already met several great contacts and shared drinks with them after working out.
You can change your grocery store, dry cleaner, church, barber shop, or any number of other things. People feel more comfortable around other people that enjoy the same things they do. The more time you spend in these places the more likely you will be recognized as "one of us" by your targets. It is subtle, but you will gain trust simply by your presence.
Listen and Learn It will feel a bit strange when you first start changing your life to be an investment in your career. The most important thing to do first is learn the cultural mores of your new surroundings.
The gym I joined is a part of a private club that has a full restaurant/bar for the members. The rules allow nice jeans in the restaurant, however, I noticed that many of the members made derogatory comments about one of the newer members wearing jeans to lunch. The club's culture frowns on jeans even though allowed by the rules. By watching and learning I have avoided that faux pas.
Everywhere will do things a bit differently so be prepared to learn how to navigate. Eventually you won't be the new person. Eventually you will find these things to be old hat and you will notice the newbies. HELP THEM learn how it works.
Build Relationships The next thing to do is build relationships. You can't start selling to everyone you meet in this new environment. You have to develop a relationship. This is why using mundane places like gyms, grocery stores, and dry cleaners work well. People have their guard down and are more willing to be open. Lines and locker rooms are places ripe for forced interaction. Stay off your phone and strike up a conversation with the person near you.
A good place to start is to pick out something about them that you can compliment or relate to. Could be an alumni sweatshirt, a compliment about a tie or pair of socks, maybe they are working out in a corporate t-shirt, find an "in" and say hello.
Then, just be friendly. That's it. This isn't the time to say, "I'm looking for a job at a BB like the one on your shirt."
Seal the Deal After you have been doing this a while you will know names, sports team preferences, jobs, family stats, etc. This is because you have developed a relationship. You might not consider all of these people your friends, but they are now a part of your network.
An easy way to start is to approach one of your new contacts and say, "I've really enjoyed getting to know you and I was wondering if I might ask you for a bit of career advice?" You can talk about how much you have grown to respect their opinion or any number of things.
Be gracious for their advice, send them a note, treat them to drinks, and most of all be as valuable as you can in return.
Has anyone else tried this? What networking hacks do you use?
Cool advice, will give this a try.
Really like the sound of that gym, what's the name? (if you don't mind sharing...)
The Gym is a part of the City Club of Buckhead here in Atlanta. If you live here or ever travel here let me know and I'll be more than happy to host you at the club.
I've heard a lot of great advice on this site, and I don't think yours is bad, but I'm not that desperate yet. When I'm at the barber, I focus on me.
When I'm at the barber, the barber focuses on me. I focus on whatever I want, and if there is a good networking opportunity, BOOM, kill two birds w one stone, hair cut and new network contact. Productive day.
you better be good at gym and not use those pussy pads when doing squats if you plan to approach me while working out
Very true. Joining a high end gym was a good networking tool for me....but I never approached anyone while working out...usually the connections were made when I saw other members getting coffee, or at the grocery store..etc. Easy opener line and then just don't act like a helpless / needy b*tch, and you are fine. Crack a risky joke...you know these people from real life, not work, so it's ok not to be as tight knit as the work place.
What have you gotten so far from it?
Christ... The day I start using grocery shops and locker rooms to network is the day I know I've hit rock bottom.
I disagree strongly with the "hacks" suggested in this post. There are limits to networking, a line which separates networking from stalking. Know those limits.
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I actually think this seems less forced than crazily cold calling or attending every conference/university event under the sun.
You gotta workout somehere and buy groceries somewhere. Unless you're extremely attached to some gym or grocery store, it's perfectly reasonable to attend one where members have common professional interests and are successfull at life - many will probably be good at small talk anyway.
It's not about whoring out for strangers, or it shouldn't be. It's just a suggestion on where to go - from there interactions will help naturally. It should not be your main goal, but even old ladies know that going to the right gym can help one get a partner, make friends or even enhance your job opportunities. Or not. At worst you'll be doing the exact same thing you'd be doing at another gym. Nothing wrong with that.
I'd certainly feel much more at ease discussing the industry with some kid from the gym than with whoever X-copied WSO's standard message for needy cold e-mails. And I see the cold e-mailer as the one wasting extra time and looking desperate.
People go to gym to wind down. The last thing a stressed out banker wants is a kid trying to talk shop during a workout. It's just a completely tactless thing to do no matter how much you try to ease into it.
I don't even wanna go into the "grocery store and barber shop" suggestion. If you think that's a good idea, you're beyond help.
Edit: The gym option can work if you have had prior interaction with the other person AND if he seems to be in a good enough mood. But joining a gym for the sole purpose for staking out potential networking targets? NO.
For some of you boneheads shouting out "stalking" and the like, I do not think that you are understanding the message that OP was trying to convey. The places he was using in his post are examples and some of them absolutely can be used (for lack of a better word) successfully, or to your benefit.
I too, signed up for an expensive gym downtown where many people in finance attend daily for their workouts, etc. Let me give you a few examples of how I have already met other people in the industry through attending this particular gym.
Example 1: Squash League - you are paired against a new opponent a couple times each week. Many of these opponents happen to work in finance. The games are intense and competitive, however, between games while grabbing a drink of water or fetching a new/dry towel, small talk ensues and career comes up almost every single time.
Example 2: Steam Room - no one likes awkward silence, and obviously no one wants to talk about DCF's or LBO's while trying to relax, but people get to talking and career comes up almost every single time.
Example 3: Lounge Room - a room within the locker room. Leather couches, coffee table, water fountain and a big screen TV. Guess what is on that TV 99% of the time? CNBC, Bloomberg or Fox News. Fountain talk occurs, people talk about the headlines on those channels and career comes up almost every single time.
You get where I'm going. The way about doing this is not "Hey! Those orange and purple socks are neat, do you work in finance and can you get me an interview?" There are really only two things to do, in the example of the gym, and those two things include signing up and attending regularly.
Just like any other form of networking or everyday life situations, you must come off a certain way. Be interested in them, be confident (while humble) and become "one of them" as OP referred to it. Also understand that this is not some short-term/find-a-job strategy. This works over time. Over the next 40 years the amount of finance professionals that I will become "one of them" with and build relationships with will be huge.
Many things will come from this, and it would be ignorant to think that career benefits will not be one of those things.
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Why you should take cold showers for a week (Originally Posted: 10/11/2016)
I started a cold shower challenge two days ago and I'm really digging it, so to all of you monkeys looking for a great way to start the day, I challenge you to take cold showers for the next week.
1) Russian lifters of old were known for freezing their gonads before a lift. Studies show that cold temperatures optimize testosterone levels, leading to a better lift. So, if you take a shower in the morning before a lifting session, crank that nozzle blue baby. Cold shower=better workout session
2) Many of you monkeys here are probably quite sleep-deprived and feel groggy when you wake up. Take a cold shower, it's a great way to truly wake yourself up and fight the mindset that thinks why am I not in bed right now. Cold shower=more energized morning
Tomorrow morning when you're feeling like crap after 5 hours of sleep, take a cold shower. No harm comes in trying monkeys.
I do this all the time, especially in the summer. I recommend.
If cold showers really correlated to higher T levels... I don't think any body builder would ever take a warm shower.. Does it wake you up, sure, but why not enjoy the majority of your shower, and just dump the cold right when you get in, and right before you get out.
If there really is evidence stating that a cold shower will increase T levels throughout the rest of one's day.. please do drop a link, would love to see it
https://www.anabolicmen.com/cold-showers-testosterone/
If you scroll down to the cold shower testosterone benefits section, it cites a few studies and analyzes their implications. The underlying theme in most of the studies was that excessive heat led to stagnant testosterone levels, opposed to colder surroundings.
Another article here: http://www.naturally-boost-testosterone.com/do-cold-showers-increase-te…
Again, the main idea seems to be that too hot of a shower leads to drippy gonads, in turn leading to reduced T lvls.
terrible idea .. it would take wayyy too long to jerk off .. I don't have that kind of time
But Brosef, jerking off is like training for a marathon (training to shag). In order to master the art, you have to train under the harshest conditions at least every so often my friend.
Expanding beyond the subject of lifting, for anyone curious about how human physiology can affect performance in trading and investing, I highly recommend reading The Hour Between Dog and Wolf, which talks about cold showers
https://www.amazon.com/Hour-Between-Dog-Wolf-Transforms/dp/0143123408
Looks like an interesting read, added to the list of many. Thanks for the recommendation.
+1 A lot of people brush this stuff off, but its really interesting and can give you an edge.
Since June I decided to start having cold showers as well. It has helped my mornings, my hair and skin feels very nice and you will feel enerigzed. Just put the cold water running on full blast, take couple deep breaths and then fuck it, go all in. Really bad at first, but it gets better after the first week.
This definitely hits the nail on the head. It's proven that cold showers leads to healthier hair and skin, and the energy of coming off a cold shower is incredible.
Your description of the process just about sums up my experience. It's something that doesn't seem worth the trouble at all, but you just have to go balls deep and it gets better.
You can also start warm, then cool it down gradually so it cools down your body temp and you don't feel it as cold. Or you can just go in straight, and breathe normally. Also keeps sweating under control on hot days.
Anyone ever crack the window open at night in the fall/early winter? It can get cold, but I sleep amazingly when it's freezing.
That's nutty, Robber. All of my brothers vouch for sleeping in freezing weather, but I'll never be able to.
really tho: who showers before going to the gym?
I would only expect people to shower if hitting the gym is the first thing they do in the day. The only purpose of the shower in that case is to help wake you up before the session.
I do if I have to take a shit really bad.
I do. It does wonders for my workouts.
and for anyone who's looking for a way to recover quicker from workouts or just can't go straight to full out cold showers I recommend: contrast showers
do you recommend showering in 720p or 1080p? perhaps, in blue-ray?
I'm just going to add this tidbit for those who appreciate lustrous hair....
Using warm water, shampoo and conditioner and then turn the water cold. The cold water will help your hair follicles "seal up" the conditioner. It will make your hair look better.
But hell no, other than the summer when I take cool showers, I will not be taking a cold shower in winter tyvm.
Trying this tomorrow... someone PM in a week to see if I'm still alive.
Anybody want to test this out together tomorrow morning at the SoHo Equinox?
Fag.
Where were you this morning Bateman? All I saw was a bunch of old men with their testes hanging so low it looked like they were about to fall off
I might consider it if I had water that was actually really cold, but here in Texas you tend to have lukewarm - scalding hot.
Also, I feel like cold showers are not very sanitary.
I do it when I feel tired and stressed, it is a good way to relieve stress
Does it matter that 5 hours of sleep is all I need to function at 100%?
No, but good for you
Hacking my way into banking (Originally Posted: 01/19/2011)
I've been lurking here for a while, but I decided it's time to chime in and ask for some advice.
I'm a NYC software developer at an Internet startup. Pay is pretty good by most standards, benefits are incredible, hours are reasonable, I love the work. It would be the perfect lifestyle if I were 25 and single.
But I'm not. I'm 31 and I've got a family to support.
Things are getting dicey. I'm working 10-12 hours at my day job then hacking on freelance projects at home 'til I pass out at at 2am. Fitting family stuff in whenever I can. Still not enough cash flow.
I know the book says that you have to love what you do for a living, but that's bull$hit. Sometimes you have to do whatever it takes to do right by your family.
I see these guys around town (I live in Jim Cramer country) driving Range Rovers with a wife who stays home taking yoga 6x/week and has 4 kids at Pingry. How much are they raking in on Wall Street? Are they really that smart or just well-connected? Either way, it's gotta be a better deal than what I've got going.
I can out-work and out-hustle most anyone I know and I'm a pretty bright dude. 3.9 GPA (econonmics) from a competitive, but non-target, liberal arts school. Since I've got engineering skills and I'm in tech, I figure my best two options might be a quant path or VC.
What are my options? What's the comp really like for a career switcher? I've gotta make a change.
Thanks, monkeys.
You probably need to get an MBA which will run you about 150k.
And you need to read this forum. Starting out as a quant or in VC you will probably be working a minimum of 10-12 hours a day. Probably more.
A guy driving a Range Rover in NYC is either an idiot who can't afford it, a trust fund baby, or making a million a year. To get to the point where you're as well off as those you idolize, in VC will probably take you 10 years or so, post-MBA. As a quant, I have no clue, but you're not going to start working and immediately be rich.
Denver, he's not talking about NYC. I know exactly where he's talking about and it's in one of the much nicer areas of Suburban NJ. Nice to find a fellow Jersey Guy, btw.
If your good, like REALLY EFFIN GOOD, you need to have market interests to be good on wall street. you need to be in constant monitoring mode with the market and the moves it has because if you dont how exactly are you planning on breaking into this industry?...
Anyways, your situation isn't impossible, just pretty tough. MBA option does sound good.
hows your C++?
Wow, thanks for the fast advice, everyone.
Denver: the 10-12 hours doesn't bother me. In fact, I'd work 18 hour days without a single complaint, as long as I made enough cash (~150K). And it's not that I idolize those dudes, I'm just puzzled by them. Early thirties clearly making 500K to 1M per year.
Frieds: Yup, you know where I'm coming from.
Khara: I know enough to know that I'll be better than 90% of the jokers that are already in the game. MBA is not an option for me, given my family situation.
marketimpact: Not bad, but I've been doing web stuff lately. What's the infatuation with C++ in finance anyway?
I know a couple of ex-Goldman guys and I have a few low-level connections at UBS and BoA. But maybe I should be considering consulting instead, eh?
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Breaking into VC or a quant role would be incredibly tough for you. VC - you need a solid finance background or extensive start-up experience (which you may have, but it's still very very competitive) Quant - one of the toughest roles to obtain in finance because at your age, you need at least a masters and even people with PhDs from top programs can't break in. Incredibly difficult. C++ and less so Java/C#/C are sought after in finance because firms need programmers to build their trading platforms. With your level of experience, you might be able to get a programming role paying close to 150k. This depends on your current compensation and level of experience. If you are interested in something like this, I can put you in touch with a recruiter. Let me know.
Honestly, VC and consulting are both great options for you. VC likes the technical background (may very well be willing to take you without an MBA. The reason I said what I did was because you don't have the "standard" background. Don't get me wrong, having the standard makes it easier, but there are definitely a lot of options for you and nothing is impossible if you work your ass off for it.
Make sure you buy WSO's technical guide and behavioral guide if this is what you want to really do.
I don't think having a "standard" background is as important here as you think Denver. I would take a guy with startup experience over a guy without it if I were in VC, particularly if he has a Tech focus, or consulting that had real world experience at this stage in the game. The engineering degree is not a bad thing at all. The finance can be taught, the experience cannot.
I do disagree about needing an MBA though, particularly if you are older and doing a career switch. I know people in VC and Consulting that got in late stage (meaning in their mid-30s) without an MBA because they had the real world experience. After a while, an MBA can only do so much. At the end of the day, it really comes down to experience, ability and who you know.
ahacker, yeah... Cramer County is nice. My family lives out in that area. I've ran into Cramer at the Kings on Morris Avenue a few times. He's much shorter than you would think. Oh, and yes, those Range Rover driving wives who do Yoga 6x/Week are also the ones that are at Martini's in Millburn (or, god forbid, they slum into South Orange if they need to escape the glitz) 2-3 nights a week... just sayin.
No, you're right, I kinda stepped back on that in my second post.
Wow. I couldn't agree more. It's nice to see at least someone on the inside can admit this. I think most like to tell themselves the MBA and the finance experience is absolutely critical because that was how they broke in.
Despite my earlier point -- you're right. It's going to be hard to get a resume through unless I can network my way in the door and then sell my experience.
It's sounding more and more like I might be better off moving to Google or Microsoft or Salesforce. The tech job market is frothy right now. Google's got 35B in the bank and was net +1,000 employees last quarter.
I underestimated how high the barriers to entry on Wall Street are, artificial or not. In tech, if we spot someone who has a killer instinct and can do the job, we bring 'em in. Pedigree means shit if you're minting money for the firm while the trust-fund monkey with his Yale MBA can't get out of his own way.
I guess banking is quite different. Still old school.
Exactly. Hey, no one answered my question -- wtf are these guys doing that they can afford this shit? Is it their salary/bonus from their hedge fund jobs? Their own investing? They just don't seem that exceptional to me.
Thanks again.
I don't know if there are too many VC positions around these days, let alone ones that will pay you $150 K base+bonus every year.
First things first reach out to the connections you have. You could get into a tech role at a BB that might improve pay a bit and give you more family time while you keep looking for a quant role.
Have you ever heard of the 4 hour work week? While it is simply impossible in most circumstances to put to action many of the items suggested, the basic premise of working smarter and more efficiently is a great concept.
AND Tim Ferriss has a new book, The 4 Hour Body. Work smarter with a sexier body!
And the award for the most ambiguously gay comment of the day goes to.......
Hey, Beracha could be a chick...
If not, no homo.
hahaha these posts always end up cracking me up.
ahacker... my true advice to you, is if you really want to make this change, target it with precision and you'll get what you want or slightly worse, but still kind of what you expected. That's how most people's lives end up.
They say you never get your dream job out of College, but really, a good amount of TOP GRADS do get their dream jobs, or slightly not as good.
moral of the story, NEVER GIVE UP!!! go for gold man!
How to hack your way onto Wall Street (Originally Posted: 11/05/2013)
Check out the hack from this guy!
about.bloomberginstitute.com/videos
Let’s face it. Most of you want to get a job in IBD. Get your ticket punched and after two years you waltz your way right into the PE and hedge fund partay. D’uh. Hang on a minute. Why not just apply … like … directly to PE/hedgies? Because everybody knows they don’t hire straight out of college. Right? In fact they do. Quit surfing random hedgie websites containing an assortment of the words Eagle, Philosophy, Creek, Alpha, Pine, Absolute, Black, Capital, River etc with inviting password entry landing pages and no careers section. You just have to let them find you. BTS - on the desktop of every Master of the Universe.
Has anyone else used this? Has it gotten you an interview/position?
Kind of embarrassing this made the front page.
The answer is no. What kind of "hedge fund" do you think this kid works at? It's just an advertisement by BAT, and a bad one at that.. I mean, using the word "hack"?
Nothing worth wanting comes easy.
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Guy in the OP picture looks so sad...almost like he's about to cry but trying very hard to crack a smile.
Although the wording if off as previously mentioned and its always hard to trust advertisements scoring highly on the test will provide you with connections/interviews but not necessarily jobs. The same way that networking gets your foot in the door but doesn't secure anything.
Billionaire Steve Ballmer shares 3 key traits you need to have if you want a successful career (Originally Posted: 07/28/2017)
In a recent interview, Steve Ballmer (LA Clippers owner and former Microsoft CEO) dropped some wisdom:
Furthermore, he added that
Some major wisdom being dropped here, so let's all salute Captain Obvious.
in other news water is wet, mexican summers are hot, and africa is poor
Like, you mean, for real?
4 Be best friends with Bill Gates and ride his coat-tails
well, at least he rode it all the way to the three comma club eh
Haha. I could tell it was a Business Insider article even before clicking.
good eye
Becoming successful in LIFE (Originally Posted: 12/02/2006)
I have really got nothing to look forward in my life.
Why am I working so hard? When everyone else is getting wasted and having fun, I am sitting at a 24-hour caf
Dude take a xanex and breathe. Life is about alot more than money. If your personal happiness rides on working at KKR, then good luck to you.
If you find somebody with the answer to this, please give me a call.
Maybe you seriously aren't cut out for IB'ing. I really think you need to go into there enjoying what you do...
I know this is a very unpopular statement for the hardline meritocratic types to swallow but I don't think there is one trully successful person who will not admit that luck was a serious component to their success. I am not taking away from these individual's inherent capabilities but that alone doesn't guarantee it (well maybe in Buffet's case it does...but you get the idea). I have a friend and classmate who is a General Partner at a tier 1 superstar VC fund and he attributes alot to this. Therefore keep at it but put things into perspective. On the hand you can keep yourself freaked out and spend the rest of your life as a neurotically charged cog in the machine...
There is indeed something to be said for being in the right place at the right time, or saying the right thing at the perfect time... I would be lying if I didn't say that a lot of my hard work has been augmented by just pure fortune.
One has to make their own breaks. God/Fate/Fortune helps those who help themselves
60% effort 40% luck... is what every successful person has ever told me
i think having a cock that measures more than 10 inches helps a great deal in order to feel successful; as long as you are careful enough not to trip on it in front of the stairs, which might leave you handicapped and which in turn might render future successes harder to attain.
stop measuring your success by your salary. You can be succesful making 45K per year, enjoying your life.
See thats the difference in this country, you live to work...you sacrifice your happiness with the goal of retiring at 55-65. And making that 100K per year.
Elsewhere people work to live, they work just enough to get by, making 50K per year and work to have enough money to enjoy their life.
Disclaimer: The post above has been made by someone who is not currently employed in IBD, and has not had an interview yet...
assmonkey, he's not really talking about salary.
Its about the constant pressure to be on the top track in life. To get a job at Goldman then at a top PE, then go to HBS..ect.
What's the point if you miss out on the things that make life enjoyable.
yeah thats kinda what I meant.
To bring up something from a while ago, remember that movie click I was talking about, thats what the movie was about, you make 1 sacrifice after another, and before you know it you are an old man who wasted his life.
Disclaimer: The post above has been made by someone who is not currently employed in IBD, and has not had an interview yet...
You really need to get a life if you're studying during your senior year.
But isn't his studying during his senior year an attempt to "get a life?" By studying he is hoping to "get a life" and be successful, two things which are mutually-inclusive.
Here's another question: why does it seem that people define "a life" (I'll limit my focus on college) as one in which you party/drink for fulfillment? Why does everything else qualify as "not a life?" (Choosing to read instead of drink; choosing to have a girlfriend instead of sleeping around?) Who deems what constitutes a "life?"
Just trying to stay logically consistent...
From reading your posts, it makes me realize that you already have a full time offer.
Therefore, you need to put the books down, go grab a few beers and have a good time. And if you don't take the advice, you might as well commit that. You will never have this kind of freedom to fuck around again. Enjoy it.
"To Know Me Is To Love Me"-Jebus Price
have you ever thought about the fact that the reason your (presumably smart/ambitions, since you are at prestigious college) friends are getting wasted is to avoid having the anxiety you are putting yourself through...
maybe ... just maybe... if you take a breather and have a drink with your buddies, you may feel a little bit less freaked out
if you are feeling this way during your senior year in undergrad, buckle up, kid... life is going to hand you waaay more stresses and unpleasantries than a competitve econ class curve
I also have an offer. And I am taking it relatively easy after 3 years of hard work..just not doing work untill the very last moment, and not freaking out if I don't get that A.
But I do feel guilty though....and what about Business schools? GPA matters for that right?
So I don't know...having mixed feelings...not doing work, but then not fully enjoying because feeling a little guilty.
I can see the logic in taking hard classes liked Modeling or fixed income 2nd half of senior year. Point being that you come in more prepared and don't get hit like a ton of bricks. Spread out the pain so to speak.
It's ok to have a freak out moment. Hell, we all have them.
Here's something that I always tell myself: "The only difference between me and them is TIME."
As far as your admiration of Henry Kravis, Warren Buffet etc., the only difference between you and them is TIME.
Here's a secret... Henry Kravis, Warren Buffet etc. all give themselves a break every once in a while!
If you've been working hard all week and you've put in your time, by all means give yourself a break today!!!
Hey aadpepsi, just curious. You're an associate right? Where do you plan to go from there, continue with banking or move into PE/VC/HF/industry?
Oh hell no.
I'm up late on account of insanity and the last thing I want to do is talk about myself.
Sorry dude.
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