Vanderbilt MSF Job Placement
Found this link on another forum. Since there seems to be a lot of questions about the Vanderbilt MSF program (and MSF programs in general) I though I'd post this link listing job placements from 2006-2009. Hopefully this should help answer questions that we often see on this forum (i.e. Is Vandy a target?, does it have good IB placement?, etc.). I'd be curious to see what people think of the placements too...
http://www2.owen.vanderbilt.edu/summerprep/MSF/MSF_Stats.html
Enjoy.
Whoa, where did you get this lol.
Haha I thought this might draw some positive attention. I found this on the gmatclub.com forums. I figured it would be more useful over here. The MSF community over there is pretty small. There really isn't much discussion on MSF programs. It's mostly focused on MBA programs. I'm hoping this will be useful for people seeking more information on the program and hopefully will stop some questions from continually resurfacing every time application season rolls around.
Any opinions on the placements Anthony?
Haha, great find man. To be honest I think this is a great find. I would bet money that it will be taken down though (I saved it into excel so no worries).
Placement looks pretty solid. I would think that after seeing this placement the Vanderbilt MSF would be worth the money IMO. It looks to me to be a lot of boutiques mixed with some BB IB and corporate finance. I am actually surprised at how diverse the geographic placement is.
I am starting an MSF blog. It is pretty nascent right now, but once it gets a little more full I will start putting it out there.
Sounds good. Why will this get taken down? I was concerned about putting this up because it puts students names out there but I don't think that is a huge issue. This information can be very useful to MSF applicants trying to make a decision on what program to attend. Is there some forum rule about posting this kind of link that I am unaware of?
No, not talking about on this site. Seems like Vanderbilt is kind of lax with their listings. I mean I think Vandy, if they find out about this being public, might hide students names. No trouble on your end, just surprised to see this public.
I think this is great though. Anyone who has an MSF degree might want to hit up those firms hiring Vanderbilt students. They might have a loyalty to Vanderbilt, but at least the HR department and hiring managers know what a MSF degree is and have experience with the graduates. One of the biggest hurdles for an MSF degree holder is convincing HR or a hiring manager a) what the degree is and b) the value added of an MSF
Yea I agree. I'm actually surprised this information is floating around on the internet. Although, I'm not TOO surprised. A friend of mine asked Vandy for MSF job placements and they sent him this information in an excel file. This is actually the second time I am seeing this information either posted online or being offered to people if they PM someone. If they are sending this information (with student names) out to prospective admits maybe they just don't care that much.
I would like to see a BC placement list also. I will call up some friends I have at Syracuse and see if I can get info on their program also.
You might be able to get some info from BC on this if you e-mail them and say you are considering the program. I'm not sure if it would work but it worked pretty well with Vandy. It might be worth a shot.
I'm doing some more digging to get some placement info. on students at the MSF programs;
UVA:
no info there
Villanova:
maybe anthony can chime in there
Duke:
no info there
Claremont Mckenna:
Washu:
Didn't find anything on website but hear that it's good
UF:
Wells Fargo - 7 (Most IBD I guess) Citigroup - 3 BOA/ML - 1 JPM - 1 Capital One - 2 Deutsche Bank - 1 Blackrock - 1 Bernstein GWM - 1
great thread. anyone have placement on similar programs like uva's ms in commerce and dukes mms?
Villanova :
BMO: 2-3 UBS: 1 JPM : 2 or more BoA: 2 Citi: 2 I think Stifel: 3-4 Wachovia: 2 CIT: handful HSBC: 1 Blackstone: 1 (Manager in corp finance) BNY: 2 (1 is a VP) PNC: 3 pr more
Everything is IB and Analyst roles, some credit Bunch of F500 Corp Finance, Treasury, Some consulting, some traders. Bunch of boutiques and MMKT Places.
Primarily in Philly or NYC, but we have people in TX, CA, CT, RI, etc
For the Duke MMS program here is what I can add from second hand knowledge:
Goldman Sachs Allen & Co Wells Fargo Morgan Stanley Bank of America Zelman Associates BNY RBS DUMAC (Duke's endowment)
I know for sure that there are a few other financial jobs out there but i am not sure what firms they are with.
There are also several students that went into consulting and marketing jobs (few examples: EY, PwC, AMEX, LEK consulting, AT Kearney, Accenture, etc etc)
This program seems to attract a more diverse group in terms of career aspirations, so you won't necessarily see a ton of finance jobs out of the program.
Already posted this on another thread but I think it's more appropriate here:
WUSTL MSF:
http://www.olin.wustl.edu/docs/WCC/EmploymentSpecializedMasters.pdf
Add the following to that pdf for IB:
UBS (NYC) Well Fargo (STL) Piper Jaffrey
Looks like a pretty good list
Hey nelly, I was the one who posted the Vandy placements on gmatclub. Ironic, because I was actually just getting ready to post it here as well. I wasn't really sure if I should have kept it secret or not, due to the student's names being on it. However, I did just find it by digging around on google... so I figure it's fair game. I know that the career center works a lot to get students placed.
Anyhow, if you notice at the top of the page this is just as of Dec 09, so not all of the current students are listed.
For those of you who read my other post, I ended up choosing LSE's Msc Acc/Fin over this program. It was a very tough decision though.
Thanks for finding this information and posting it on gmatclub. If we had detailed info like this for all MSF programs it would make the choices a lot easier. For what it's worth, I think you made the right choice. You can't go wrong with LSE. Great recruiting in Europe and lots of name recognition. Congrats.
Just finished a MSF program at Tulane and here are some of the career placements off the top of my head. Mostly MM stuff but nonetheless here it is...
Johnson Rice- commodities research Howard Weil- commodities research Macquarie (NY)- commodities research Citi (houston)- trading analyst Sequent Energy (houston)- trading analyst JPM PWM Piper Jaffray Tudor Pickering Holt- research Geneva Trading- prop trading Trigate Capital (P/E) KeyBanc- IBD Raymond James
Talked to one of my buddies who did the similar LSE program and he landed a job in asset management at Macquarie (nyc)
Tulane MFin placement stats.
http://www.freeman.tulane.edu/cmc/docs/employmentprofileMFIN2009.pdf
Although somewhat outdated, here is some more Vandy info:
http://mba.vanderbilt.edu/vanderbilt/Programs/msfinance/upload/MSF-Hiri…
I've seen something similar for Princeton's MSF as well; it could probably be found pretty easily if someone wanted it.
http://msfhq.com
I have been doing a little blogging. Trying to provide a pretty comprehensive MSF resource. Suggestions are welcome.
Just to let you guys know, the Vandy MSF job placement was far more impressive this year than in any previous year.
Any more information ?
Anthony, you forgot to include the stuff on UVA, CMC and UF in your blog.
I will add that stuff right now. Thanks!
http://www.business.illinois.edu/msf/EmploymentStats.aspx
UIUC employment stats. This is kind of interesting since I was on GMAT club and heard very different things. People were saying they had horrible placements. Maybe that was referring to 2010.
I am putting it on my blog now.
anyone else think the tulane stats look a little shifty? Besides placing at JPMoorgan, it doesn't look anything like all the other reports do.
just a thought
Tulane is wack. I know people who graduated in that class and of the 76 or so MFINs, about 10 had jobs after graduating. Obviously JP Moorgan (LOL) sticks out, but that person had a dad who was a Partner at KKR, trust me Tulane didn't get him that job. They were careful to not list the employment %s but trust me, there is a reason Tulane is a 5th tier MFIN program.
Tulane undergrad class of 2009 here. I sincerely doubt there were 76 MFIN's total- in fact I think it would be closer to 20 if not 10. You might be including Masters of Acct, which is far more popular. I know some folks in the MFIN '10 class, and I think the number was in the single digits. 20 tops.
That being said, I do agree with some parts of your argument. Tulane's a great school and will give you ample opportunity in the Gulf Coast if you show some promise- but the 2010 MFIN placements have been, well, lackluster as far as I know. Few people at Bloomberg and Houston Energy (Ops/Trading), and one person prop trading in Chicago. Sporadically, the UG program will send a few kids to NY IB.
I was not overly impressed by the placement stats, but it is also regional so that sometimes happens. 2008/2009 were also pretty shitty years when it comes to getting a job.
Well in all fairness to Tulane, how many kids had internships, how many applied to jobs, how many had decent resumes. Villanova has solid placement stats, but there were a few people who struggled to find jobs. Those were the people who had no internships during UG or during their MSF and who really did not network effectively.
76 is pretty large for an MSF class though. Most I find are around 20-30, maybe 60 if they have 2 cohorts. Anything over 30 and the school better be well known with established recruitment.
http://www.olin.wustl.edu/docs/MSF/MSFSellSheet.pdf
updated Wash U employment prospects. Enjoy
http://www.claremontmckenna.edu/rdschool/career/masters/employment_stat…
New stuff on Claremont McKenna.I honestly wasn't very big on this program before, but this is really pretty damn impressive. Obviously mostly regional placements as per usual but some new york placements as well. The internship clip on the page seems like it helps students land internships for the summer before the program starts. Is it just me or does that rock balls relative to a lot of other comparable career services departments?
Cheers to CMC
WUSTL Most Recent Placements:
My buddy is at UVA's MS Comm. He said every single wanna-be-banker got it (BBs, top MM, elite boutiques)
No kidding. I have been interested in this program for a while, I would love to hear more about it from someone that went through the program. I also wanted to leave options to possibly go into trading. Would you happen to know off-hand if there is much recruiting in that division? If your buddy is willing to talk please shoot me a private message.
Vanderbilt MSF Placement Report (Originally Posted: 03/07/2014)
Hey guys, I know there was previously some back and forth regarding myself and others about the placements of Vanderbilt vs. other programs. I know the website has some, but not all placements, so on and so forth. Well I talked to the people I know at Vandy and they sent me their 2013 report which has a ton of information. I know many of you are trying to make a decision between Vanderbilt and other schools so I thought I would post here and let you all know.
Ugggg - the attachment is too big. I will post the content here, but you can download the full report for my site.
2010- 2013 Placements
Investment Banking Bank of America Merrill Lynch Chaffe & Associates Credit Agricole Deutsche Bank Fifth Third Bank Goldman Sachs Harris Williams Raymond James Stephens Inc. Stifel, Nicolaus & Company SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Taylor-Dejongh
Investments & research Avondale Partners BlackRock Bridgewater Associates Cambridge Associates Credit Suisse Crestline Investors Goldman Sachs Guggenheim Partners JP Morgan Northwestern Mutual Ramsey Quantitative Systems Stern Agee Thompson Research Group UNC Management Company Wells Fargo
Sales & trading G2 Goldman Sachs Koch Supply & Trading Morgan Stanley real estate finance Capital Trust Deutsche Bank Goldman Sachs Jones Lang LaSalle Savills
corporate finance Accredo Health Group Balfour Beatty Energy Solutions Capital One Harrah’s Entertainment Horizon Wind Energy Hydroflo Pumps LG Electronics LifePoint Hospitals Microsoft Palo Alto Vanguard Health Systems
Advisory services & Consulting Booz Allen Hamilton Capgemini Deloitte EY KPMG PricewaterhouseCoopers Mercer
What is the reasoning behind people getting an MSF and then going into corporate finance? Are they placed higher or did they just not get where they wanted in FT undergrad recruiting?
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