What is your LEAST favorite country that you've visited and why?

This world is huge, and people on this site tend to seem reasonably well-traveled. With that being said, what is your LEAST favorite country that you've been to and why? Don't list countries that you haven't visited (ie Iran, North Korea etc)

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  • Prospect in S&T - Equities
Oct 28, 2019

Hmmm... this is so hard, I've visited multiple countries across the globe and it's hard to pick my least favorite. If I have to, I'd pick the U.K., I think people are kinda cocky and cold there, at least those I've met. And also there isn't anything good to eat. lol

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Oct 28, 2019

I would say that there are people like that but if you go to a pub during a football(soccer) game or rugby game everyone is equal and if you are drinking it is even better

Oct 28, 2019
TaxHavenFTW:

I would say that there are people like that but if you go to a pub during a football(soccer) game or rugby game everyone is equal and if you are drinking it is even better

What the fuck? Soccer hooligans are some of the most bigoted people on this earth. They want to kill one another and half the clubs want to kill anyone who isn't white.

heister:

Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad.

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Oct 30, 2019

My least favorite country to visit has to be Mexico. I visited Mexico City and got Salmonella. Sort of rubbed me the wrong way. I have visited 19 countries total. If you visit be careful of what you eat. I didn't listen to people and I learned the hard way.

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Nov 9, 2019

I wouldn't say the UK, but England specifically.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Oct 28, 2019

The Republic of Kiribati would be a strong first place with my main reasons being the lack of everything except for the odd cannibal or two. Only people that would possibly enjoy it there would be summer IB interns as the lack of cellular networks would prevent them from getting a late night "PLS FIX" from their MD.

Resource: visited in July 2018

Second place goes to the Kingdom of Tonga due to the fact the whole country essentially shuts down on Sundays for religious purposes and the lack of infrastructure, etc.

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Oct 28, 2019

Why did you visit Kiribati? Curious...

Oct 28, 2019

I'm currently trying to complete a personal goal of reaching 100 countries by the age of 30 and was in Australia for undergrad B school last year. So first off I was in the region, secondly I had a goal I was working towards and lastly I had just read the Sex Lives of Cannibals by J. Maarten Troost... interesting read to say the least.

On to how I ended up there:
I Had to get to Hawaii for a planned trip between semesters and wanted to go the interesting way instead of the quick way so I shot over to NZ for a couple of days then up to Fiji. From there I was able to book a round trip to Honolulu with a multi-day layover in Kiribati on the way back... Interestingly enough Fiji Air is the only airline that services the island nation at the moment. I found out the reason for this upon landing when we touched down on a runway comparable to a North Korean rural road and pulled up to the garden shed "literately" of a terminal where customs was basically a guy writing stuff down on a piece of paper.

All and all probably the most remote death trap of a island I've ever been do and definitely wouldn't recommend it with the one exception of Fly Fishing... apparently it's fantastic there and people fly in once a week and shell out thousands for guided fly fishing tours.

hope this helps.

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Oct 28, 2019

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  • Associate 2 in CorpDev
Oct 28, 2019

Clearly, none of you folks have been to India...

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Oct 28, 2019

Spent one month in Indian this year, can confirm that you are either misinformed or a peasant. As if you have even a semi decent bankroll you can basically live like a king, servants, 5 stars all the way, private tours everywhere and you can bribe your way into and out of anything.

Tons of historic and cultural things to see and do 10/10 would recommend India.

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Oct 28, 2019

Sure, but it smells like shit everywhere you go. No thx bud.

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Oct 28, 2019

I spent over $20k in 2 weeks In India, I did not go cheaply (business trip). I also visited a wealthy family that had servants, drove brand new BMW 750s, had copious alcohol in a dry state, had the largest marble desk I've ever seen, etc... Even with that, I'd HATE to live in India

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  • Associate 2 in CorpDev
Oct 28, 2019

Hahaha undercover Indian detected, nice try bud :)

No bobs and vagene for you

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Oct 28, 2019
Late 2 the party:

Spent one month in Indian this year, can confirm that you are either misinformed or a peasant. As if you have even a semi decent bankroll you can basically live like a king, servants, 5 stars all the way, private tours everywhere and you can bribe your way into and out of anything.

Tons of historic and cultural things to see and do 10/10 would recommend India.

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heister:

Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad.

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Oct 28, 2019

Saw something today, in The Economist I believe, that says India has 12 of the world's 15 most polluted cities. Yikes.

Edit: Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/B4K2NsMgo1G/?igshid=6j...

Nov 3, 2019

The economist hates any country in the global south.

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Oct 28, 2019

I'm not going to crap on an entire country and their culture, but from a business travel standpoint India is THE WORST. The flights to/from US are horrible and despite some new, nicer western hotels in major cities it is not a nice place.

I'm trying to be nice and some cities (Bangalore) are certainly better than others, but the overall experience in India is not a pleasant one. Seeing an elephant on the road was pretty cool though....

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Oct 28, 2019

Tbh I can see how business travel might be a annoyance especially if it's a fly in fly out situation from North America. Mumbai isn't the most habitable place and when I flew from BLR to JFK via Doha on Qatar air the total flight time took a toll even laying down up front.

That being said I'm still going to defend it as one of the most interesting places I've visited, my flight from the east coast to Delhi was basically a nap and a movie. The journey from there to Agra to Jaipur via private driver was more than comfortable and there was lots to see... Specifically the region of rajasthan. From there it was on to Nagpur via Mumbai then back to Mumbai before heading down to Goa to drink beers on the beach all day. All and all a good trip with lots of experiences.

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Nov 3, 2019

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Oct 28, 2019

Clearly you haven't been to many developing countries if you think India is the worst that it gets.

Gimme the loot

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Oct 28, 2019

I been to India multiple times for personal and business reasons. They don't let you into the gated communities where the wealthiest people live. Antilia which is the most expensive house in the world that cost $1,000,000,000+ is in Mumbai. No lies, no one wealthy there wants to go the market or anywhere near the slums. They just all live in private communities with security guards. You don't see any upperclass people there because they don't want to see you or interact with you, even as a foreigner.

"It's okay, I'll see you on the other side"

Oct 29, 2019

TBH India was one of my favorite trips that I have ever been on and I went alone. Not on some soul searching shit either. I genuinely enjoyed the people that I met in the three regions of the country that I went, the culture is dope, and the place is stunning. Obviously, you'll see shit you don't want to see and there are scammers everywhere, but I will definitely be back soon. Being in India during Holi would be a dream

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Oct 29, 2019

India is fucked up.

The rich stay in gated compounds far more luxurious than some of the best places in Hong Kong or even London (strictly within the gated compounds). And right outside, you'll see a poor labourer's family living under just a tarpaulin sheet and poles, trying to stave off the winter month by burning firewood and cowdung cakes. Even worse, it's usually those labourers who built the gated compounds and work for the people living within to service the rich folks' needs (like the guy below you). Seriously broke my heart big time, even though I've seen a lot of poverty in a lot of places (including Afghanistan). The sheer contrast and indifference literally killed it - and this I say as someone from Asia. For some perspective, in India, you'll even find women who make a 50k (which is huge by Indian standards), married to a guy who makes around 150k, haggling over 0.5 cents of veggies with the streetside green-grocer who makes maybe $1-2 a day.

Not to mention the increasing communal violence after the election of the hard-right ruling party. A significant number of Uber drivers are Muslim in Delhi, the capital. The guy felt comfortable talking with me (I can speak broken Urdu thanks to my time in Dubai), after figuring out from my name that I'm Muslim. After the usual niceties, the discussion veered off into the topic of religious violence (I might have been guilty of that), and the guy narrated countless unbelievable instances - being disturbed during prayers, churches and mosques being vandalized, being harassed by the police, being harassed by the local politicos...

For an anecdote, a few months back, the youngest son of my friend's cook was murdered in broad daylight, apparently because he got into an argument with some relation of some local goon. The police took their sweet three hours to drive by.

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."

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Oct 29, 2019

When does india get cold?

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
Oct 29, 2019

American Indian here and this post accurately sums it up. India has an incredible heritage and it's culture is amazing (not everything is bobs and vagene), but it's almost impossible to live there.

Oct 31, 2019

ummmm, what were you doing in afghanistan?

Nov 3, 2019

Kabul is getting worse. Prospects of improvement seem low. Hope is found when T is treated like disaffected guirellas with local incentives, rather than international ambitions.

Often struck by how beauty is found in the midst of such terrible backdrops. There is no other place like the Bamyan, more people should see it. The daily perspective of death being such a visible fact really makes you readjust your perspective.

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Oct 28, 2019

Belgium.

I am in Brussels a couple of times a year and I try to minimize the number of days there. It is an incredibly boring place, people are rude and service at hotels/restaurants is absolute shiet.
The city is mostly filled with boring bureaucrats and people travelling for work, which is less than ideal for the nightlife.

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Oct 28, 2019

Can people take anything a Brit says about Brussels seriously?

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Oct 28, 2019
Koopdeta:

Can people take anything a Brit says about Brussels seriously?

Hey, I'm Scandinavian!

I get the other point and I have to admit that I have never been to Bruges. Maybe I gotta hop on a train the next time I'm in Belgium.

Oct 28, 2019

C'mon man. Lots of Brits died protecting Belgium on WW1

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Oct 28, 2019

I wouldn't write off the entire country of Belgium based just on Brussels. Yes, Brussels sucks, but Bruges is amazing. The movie was right - it really is a "fucking fairy tale". Plus I saw an actual "little person" in Bruges and just about lost my mind.

Oct 28, 2019

colin farrell did make a whole movie about belgium being awful

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Oct 29, 2019

It's like a fuckin fairytale

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Oct 28, 2019

Iraq. The people were rude, granted I was there against their wishes but still

Oct 28, 2019

What do you expect from an invasion lol.

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Oct 29, 2019
Scott Irish:

Iraq. The people were rude, granted I was there against their wishes but still

You absolutely win this thread. Game over.

Oct 28, 2019

not extremely well traveled but so far least favorites are UK and Belgium. belgian people were remarkably nice and well mannered, so they're not last, but the food sucks (I ate mostly halal and italian when I was there).

ditto on england for the shitty food (decent thai food though), but the people were noticeably more rude, particularly in Wales. I won't be going back anytime soon.

Oct 28, 2019

Interesting. I loved London and thought the people were pretty friendly. Much friendlier than Paris, for instance.

The food is rough though, plus I'm not a fan of curry.

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Oct 28, 2019

I should mention, I did not spend any significant time in London, so take my assessment of the UK with that grain of salt

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Oct 28, 2019
thebrofessor:

not extremely well traveled but so far least favorites are UK and Belgium. belgian people were remarkably nice and well mannered, so they're not last, but the food sucks (I ate mostly halal and italian when I was there).

Why would you even eat halal or Italian in Belgium?
Belgium has a an excellent fine dining scene & good local dishes as well.

Oct 28, 2019

what I'm saying is I tried the local fare, I was unimpressed, so I sought out other options. doesn't hold a candle to spanish, french, or italian cuisine. but again, that's just one dumb american's opinion, you're free to eat belgian food all you want, but you won't convert me

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Oct 28, 2019

Not sure if you experienced this too, but I always felt like there was an "old money" rudeness amongst Londoners. I felt looked down upon because I was American and didn't have any family history beyond my grandparents.

Oct 29, 2019

It's a European thing imo

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."

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Oct 31, 2019

There's no new money so probably true...

Oct 29, 2019
thebrofessor:

the food sucks (I ate mostly halal and italian when I was there).

waves left fist angrily in arabic
waves right hand angrily in italian

Guess Trump was right. They aren't sending their best cooks and chefs.

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."

Oct 29, 2019

let me rephrase. the local fare was so bad I only ate halal and italian, because those were good.

Oct 28, 2019

I am not kidding when I say I've been to Syria.

It was before the war outbreak so it was relatively "stable"

Had pictures of Bashar Al ASSad all over the fucking place. Police stop you all over. Beggars slam on your car window. No modern business like McDonalds or Starbucks.

Oct 28, 2019

Turkey. When I was in Istanbul my university group was glared at, spit at (on ground as we walked by), and one individual (a Hindu) was shot at by a cab driver after a heated religious argument. I also almost got jumped in a bar too long story... Make no mistake, the vast majority of these people hate Americans.

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Oct 28, 2019

I'm surprised, I was in Istanbul for a week recently and found it to be very diverse, "first world," and it felt quite European. Other folks I know who have been there in the past few years have all loved it too.

Oct 28, 2019

It was a university related trip and they cheaped out on accommodations big time. The hotel was disgusting and not in a great part of town.

Oct 28, 2019
InVinoVeritas:

Turkey. When I was in Istanbul my university group was glared at, spit at (on ground as we walked by), and one individual (a Hindu) was shot at by a cab driver after a heated religious argument. I also almost got jumped in a bar too long story... Make no mistake, the vast majority of these people hate Americans.

Wow, I almost married a rich Turkish girl who wanted me to move to Istanbul. Glad I decided against that.

Oct 29, 2019

Istanbul is an awesome city and that's not really representative of what it's like to visit there.

Oct 29, 2019

Why would anyone as a tourist get into a religious heated argument with anyone?

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."

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Oct 29, 2019

So that's your question as opposed to why the hell the driver tried to shoot my travelmate?

"Don't you dare criticize Islam, they have every right to try to kill you in response!"

Oct 28, 2019

Though I feel like India does overall take the cake for a lot of it being very unpleasant (not great weather, high levels of pollution and corruption, widespread poverty and outdated infrastructure), I'd probably say my least favorite place I've lived in is Lithuania. The people are very cold, fairly high levels of alcoholism (though nothing like Russia and some other Eastern European countries), the food was just alright, and there's really just not much to do at all. Vilnius is a beautiful city, but it's mindbogglingly boring when you leave it.

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Oct 28, 2019

But then what is Somalia / Libya?

Oct 28, 2019

Somalia.... got kicked off a boat cruise for telling staff "I am the captain now"

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Oct 28, 2019

Call HR bro beans they'll help you out.

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Oct 28, 2019

Czech Republic has beautiful women, outstanding beer, and makes excellent firearms.

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Oct 28, 2019

Even better than just having beautiful women, the dudes are dusty af. Prague is a gorgeous city, don't know what this guy is on.

Oct 28, 2019

You for got porn

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  • Associate 2 in IB-M&A
Oct 28, 2019

lol who hurt you?

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Oct 28, 2019

I didn't love Vietnam. The nature is amazing but everything else is so so. Food isn't great (yes, street food was a let down for me a nothing compared to the more "refined" Vietnamese food in Europe), the concept of service is almost nonexistent, the language barrier is huge (even in international chain hotels like a Hilton you can struggle to get you message across) and the people are generally rude and not open to tourists. Clearly there are exceptions but this was the general vibe I got from having seen 3 different cities and doing a mix of nature and city exploration. Neighboring Cambodia was MUCH better.

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Nov 2, 2019

You're on crack if you think Cambodian food is better than Vietnamese food

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Nov 2, 2019

Generally no but based on the experiences I personally had in those countries, the Cambodian ones were better. Maybe I ate at the wrong places or maybe the negativity of other parts of the Vietnam trip didn't let me fully enjoy the food. But based on that single experience, I preferred the Cambodian food.

  • Senior VP in HF - Other
Oct 28, 2019

Been to about 35 countries - combination of living around, multiple 3+ month back packing trips and random 1-2 week vacations.

Cuba was by far my least favorite place. There are so many better places to go before you consider cuba.

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Oct 28, 2019

Ahahahaha didn't think of this.... fucking rice and beans.

Oct 29, 2019

Food sucks in Cuba, but everything else is great.

Easily the safest Caribbean country.

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Oct 31, 2019

Why do you say safest? Had always heard about Aruba being the safest

Nov 1, 2019

North Korea is probably the safest Asian country, that is if you don't have a poster collecting hobby.

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Oct 28, 2019

How has everyone on this site been to/lived in so many places?? It's quite remarkable..

Oct 28, 2019
EBITDaBaby:

How has everyone on this site been to/lived in so many places?? It's quite remarkable..

I don't think it's unreasonable for one person to be to 3-4 countries. Perhaps a bit entitled, but if you go on one vacation as a kid, study abroad in college, and then do 1-2 as an adult, that adds up quickly.

Oct 28, 2019

Had some family members in the State dept so had the chance to visit them when abroad.

Oct 28, 2019

35 countries down, and the winner (so far) is Luxembourg. No culture, no nightlife, no unique food, no landmark attractions. Centrally located in Western Europe though. I've been to plenty of impoverished South American countries that had far more "beauty" than the sterility of the wealth of Luxembourg.

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Oct 28, 2019

Does it have a major airport or would you just take a train to Paris/Amsterdam/Frankfurt etc.?

Oct 28, 2019
BubbaBanker:

Does it have a major airport or would you just take a train to Paris/Amsterdam/Frankfurt etc.?

Train for sure.

Oct 29, 2019

Lol, I forgot about Luxembourg. It's the nicest shitty place I've ever been to.

If you are opening a shady overseas bank account I would go to the Caymans, not this boring place.

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Oct 28, 2019

Surprised to see all the UK hate. London is an awesome city, a real international hub, plenty of stuff to do for everyone. Whether isn't great though, but even if you didn't love London/UK I wouldn't rank it as the worst place I've been.

I was disappointed in Belgium, it just wasn't that exciting to me. Nothing terrible, just boring.

Haven't been to India, but I hear is very polarizing.

My controversial one is, I didn't love Thailand when I went. I did a few days in Bangkok and a few in Phuket. Upon reflection, Phuket was probably too touristy and I should have tried for an outer island, but overall didn't love either place. Things were cheap, but that was about it, felt pretty seedy, maybe fun if you were looking to get really rowdy with a group, but otherwise, it was hard to get around, chaotic, etc.

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Oct 28, 2019

Agree with you on London. It's a great food city and the only other city that can really compete with it is NYC.

Oct 28, 2019

i loved them all

Ciudad del Este, Paraguay is the worst city i've been to

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Oct 28, 2019

Really? I spent a decent amount of time in Ciudad/ASU. Ciudad de Este can't be the worst with access to the waterfalls and crazy shopping?

Oct 28, 2019

hmm you're right, i just had a bad experience and everything was closed (was there on easter).

Iguazu is very close indeed

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Oct 28, 2019

Saudi Arabia has the largest gap between what it is and what its potential is/was, though life can be quite comfortable if you're living on a compound. I guess that's my answer.

There are plenty of places I've visited where I would find it very hard to live (India, Cuba, Lebanon) but it's hard for me to say that any are my least favorite, given that I really enjoyed my time in all 3.

Oct 28, 2019

I did a Thailand trip with a couple friends to Bangkok and then Phuket, trying to have a good time. But I had no idea how ratchet and seedy it would be. In Bangkok, I stayed at a pretty nice hotel, and I went to a window to look outside, and could literally see people living in crates and steel containers. The poverty there was a little unnerving, but I guess you get used to it once you have visited a few developing countries, but it was much worse than Vietnam and Malaysi.

But Phuket was on another level. Absolutely chaotic, dirty, with waste lying about on the side of the road. The nightlife in both places has a lot of ladyboys, and creepy, old and balding white men everywhere preying on the locals. I ended up having a pretty great time just with my friends, so I guess I can't complain, but you definitely have to be the kind of person who's okay partying in kind of ratchet, unclean, dirty places.. And I've been to Vietnam and Malaysia, but Thailand is definitely on another level of sketchiness.

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Oct 28, 2019

A few days in Alexandria / Cairo was more than enough for me. Zero interest in going back there ever. Sure there's some scenic things to do like the pyramids and see how papyrus is made but its way overpopulated and filthy. I guess I'm glad to have seen it first hand to know I never want to go back.

Oct 28, 2019

While I wouldn't call it the worst place I've been to, the infrastructure and dinginess of major US cities really makes me question the country being labeled as first-world at times.

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Oct 28, 2019

Sounds like South / SE Asia kinda sucks then? Never been but then again I never really saw the allure. From afar it seems like crushing poverty, hot weather, and dense populations. Guess I've made good travel choices; I've had many people try to convince me of doing a trip there.

Oct 28, 2019

Na man, it's a big region. Have had good times in Thailand, Indonesia, Laos, Myanmar, Cambodia and Vietnam. It all depends on what kind of trip you have and what you intend on getting out of the trip.

Oct 29, 2019

South / SE Asia is an absolutely massive region and it's impossible to generalize. Indonesia alone is longer than America is.

Oct 28, 2019

The Republic of East Saint Louis

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Oct 29, 2019

All of the midwest except chicago tbh

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  • Prospect in IB-M&A
Oct 29, 2019

Minneapolis isn't too bad. I would argue that it's a lot better than a lot of people would expect, but still, Chicago tops all. I'm from Milwaukee and I won't even try to argue in favor of it lol

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Oct 30, 2019

Ended up at a strip club there on night with a group of people I had never met before (most of them girls). What a night......

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Oct 30, 2019

Ahh The Penthouse in East STL. Probably a top 10 strip club in the US

Oct 28, 2019

I don't hate the people of the country, but Saudi Arabia is a terrible country and I never intend to visit a country where women are oppressed in the way they are in Saudi Arabia. They cut your head off if they don't like you, destroy their own culture and use terrorism to force everyone to worship their extremist branch of Islam. No one has basic human rights in Saudi Arabia thanks to their crazy, fundamentalist interpretation of the Quran .

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Oct 28, 2019

Curse of oil. I wander how much of the lack of rights was a realization by the rulers that keeping it backwards was great for them. No need to share the oil wealth if you never develops

Richest family in the world.

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Oct 29, 2019

Good thing mah man Adam Neumann (haraam Israeli Jew btw) ran away with $1.7 B of Saudi money.

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."

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Oct 29, 2019

Has anyone been to Saudi Arabia yet? Just opened for tourism and I'm tempted to go there next month. My risk tolerance is pretty high, so I'm not crazy concerned with my safety, just more concerned with having things to do for 5-7 days.

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Oct 29, 2019

Saudi Arabia is perfectly safe. Frankly though you're better off going to Oman, you can do everything you can in Saudi except there's much more to do and greater geographic diversity.

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Oct 29, 2019

Correction: Saudi is safe as long as you live in a compound or a five star hotel. There are some places you really don't want to be in - banditry, bribery, murders, kidnappings aren't uncommon.

We did a project a few years back there, and the company arranged bulletproof cars for some reason. Now why would they do that?

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."

  • Analyst 2 in Other
Oct 29, 2019

Can confirm Oman is definitely worth visiting, was there last month and it was superb - less touristy than somewhere like the UAE and incredibly safe. One of the best places I've been to so far in fact.

Nov 10, 2019
IBplz78:

Has anyone been to Saudi Arabia yet? Just opened for tourism and I'm tempted to go there next month. My risk tolerance is pretty high, so I'm not crazy concerned with my safety, just more concerned with having things to do for 5-7 days.

If you have a pretty generous risk appetite I hear your dollar can really go far in Yemen or Syria.

Oct 29, 2019

Hot take: Monaco.

It's the most overpriced, overpopulated, boring place in Europe and one of the only countries in the world that consider its tax regime as part of the culture. If you are there for the Grand Prix you're gonna be better off staying in Nice, Cannes or Antibes.

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Oct 29, 2019

Ive visited Dubai twice... everyone is pretty shitty so you typically have to drink your way through the trip.

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Oct 29, 2019

I've heard that drunkenness/alcohol is illegal in most parts of Dubai. I apologize if you were just joking but otherwise, am I misinformed or do they just not enforce the law very well?

I'm a fun guy. Obviously I love the game of basketball. I mean there's more questions you have to ask me in order for me to tell you about myself. I'm not just gonna give you a whole spill... I mean, I don't even know where you're sitting at

Oct 29, 2019
Kawhi Anthony Leonard:

I've heard that drunkenness/alcohol is illegal in most parts of Dubai. I apologize if you were just joking but otherwise, am I misinformed or do they just not enforce the law very well?

There are definitely Western clubs and hotels where you can go to drink. Not sure of the specifics of the law though.

Oct 29, 2019

Anyone can go to a bar or Western cafe to drink. But you walk out and act drunk, you'll be fined. To consume alcohol in your home, you need a personal liquor license (or your company needs to provide one for you), after which you can buy alcohol from some specific vendors and consume it in your home alone. Drunk driving there (even without causing anything) often leads to jail time followed by "debortation".

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."

Oct 30, 2019

For the most part alcohol is only available at hotels, though this isn't as constraining as it sounds as every hotel has multiple bars and restaurants, and there are an awful lot of hotels. There are also nightclubs too. In addition, you can buy whatever you want from the duty free stores when you enter the country.

Oct 29, 2019

For a major American tourist destination I was not a fan of the Dominican Republic.

Oct 31, 2019

This is also my least favorite place to date - the resorts are so much shittier than every other place i've been in the carribean and the people/vibes also turned me off. Much better off going to Jamaica, Mexico, Aruba etc.

Oct 31, 2019
brosephstalin:

This is also my least favorite place to date - the resorts are so much shittier than every other place i've been in the carribean and the people/vibes also turned me off. Much better off going to Jamaica, Mexico, Aruba etc.

Whenever I was not at the resort (split time between there and a city hotel), I felt that most people were sizing me up about how to get money. I'm lucky to be a much larger than average guy, not in a Chris Farley kind of way. My brother-in-law said at least twice that he was glad I was there because he would 100% be getting jumped. I've been to plenty of third world countries, and the DR was no bueno. The people at the resorts were great, but the food was terrible at a brand new, high end place.

Glad I'm not alone.

I'm 100% Mexico for beach vacations from the Western US. Mexico > Hawaii

Oct 29, 2019

Possibly unpopular, but I am not a big fan of the UAE. Compared to its neighbors (Qatar, Kuwait, Oman), it has almost no visible culture. All you see in Dubai and Abu Dhabi are mega malls, luxury shopping, and obscene displays of oil-money wealth. If you're traveling there because of exactly those reasons, then you will be in heaven on Earth. But if you prefer to really get to know the history, the people, and the culture then you're better off skipping it.

I also found that most people treated the working class, who are all immigrants and never Emirati natives, with distrust and disdain, which was also a red flag for me.

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Oct 29, 2019

Well for Emirati culture, you went to the wrong places.
Bastakiya in the Dubai city centre, then Hatta on the outskirts (literally an enclave in another emirate), or any of the smaller townships in Abu Dhabi, or most of the northern Emirates (Umm Al Quwain, Ras al Khaimah, Fujairah) have a lot of culture still left uncontaminated by Dubai's idiotic materialism.
I would say Qatar has barely any culture.

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."

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Oct 31, 2019

That's a good point, I do imagine that getting outside the cities would have given me a much different sense of the country. I will say though that the Golden Souk in Dubai was well worth visiting, and provided a relieving change of pace and some insight as to what Emirati culture is like. If I ever find myself back there, I'll have to make time to visit some of the emirates that are more off-the-beaten-path.

Oct 31, 2019
aeroanalyst:

Possibly unpopular, but I am not a big fan of the UAE. Compared to its neighbors (Qatar, Kuwait, Oman), it has almost no visible culture. All you see in Dubai and Abu Dhabi are mega malls, luxury shopping, and obscene displays of oil-money wealth. If you're traveling there because of exactly those reasons, then you will be in heaven on Earth. But if you prefer to really get to know the history, the people, and the culture then you're better off skipping it.

I also found that most people treated the working class, who are all immigrants and never Emirati natives, with distrust and disdain, which was also a red flag for me.

Totally agree on Qatar and Kuwait

Oct 31, 2019

Ive been to Morocco. Although it's not a travelers-friendly country and my friend and I almost got robbed I still love the country lol

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Oct 31, 2019

Where in Morocco did you visit? I was in Marrakesh recently and it seemed like a chilled out place, women and children out and about until 4 am without a care in the world.

Oct 31, 2019

This may, I went to marrakesh and casablanca. It was ramadan. People kept asking for money on streets and it was kind of scary...We lived in the central medina. It's a great country i'd visit again to explore the desert and other places and i love the culture as well but it was a bit intense..

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Oct 31, 2019

Greece. So much poverty in Athens which is where I visited. They have stray cats all over the place, and wild dogs. I'm allergic. I'm sure a luxury resort on one of the islands would have been awesome, but I didn't do that.

Oct 31, 2019

yea, it's so sad

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Oct 31, 2019

go to santorini next time! it's amazing there. anw at least greece is so cheap and the food is good lol

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Oct 31, 2019

Athens is shit (aside from historic stuff). Go to the mountains especially if winter (arachova, meteora) and islands (santorini, hydra) next time, they're really beautiful!

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Nov 9, 2019

Mykonos was surprising too - lots of natural beauty and the town itself is gorgeous but other than that it's just a huge rock. Roads are sketchy too. Stayed in a villa about 15min from the town and were warned right away to lock doors because of robbers. We were planning to rent vehicles of some sort until we realized the drive to our neighborhood was along a rocky cliff with no barriers and our taxi driver said some tourist had just died in an accident the week prior.

10/10 would still go back

Oct 31, 2019

Greece pro-tip don't spend more than 2 days in Athens unless you're Greek. Charter, then sail around to multiple islands for 2+ weeks.

The cats are from the last recession when the Greeks could no longer afford their pets so they just let them out onto the street.

Nov 1, 2019

I've never been to any really difficult third world type places, but among the developed world I have to say Paris was some weak ass shit. Its just a big city, nothing special at all if you've lived in places like NYC/LA/SF/CHI like most of this board.

Ooooh your buildings are old, who cares. The Mona Lisa looks better on Google images than it does in person with 10 rows of tourists with cameras in front of you. And the French food in Georgetown is better than it is in France.

Nov 1, 2019

Here are some countries you should visit: https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/where-to-go...

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