Oh, found it.. Although Phoenix is regionally accredited, it lacks approval from the most prestigious accrediting agency for business schools, the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business.

John J. Fernandes, the association’s president, said the university had never applied. “They’re smart enough to understand their chances of approval would be low,” Mr. Fernandes said. “They have a lot of come-and-go faculty. We like institutions where the faculty is stable and can ensure that students are being educated by somebody who knows what they’re doing.”

 
SC911:
No, I did catch the sarcasm lol.
That is why UOP is right for you!

Seriously though. Try to get into the best possible brick-and-mortar school that you can. Online schools are a waste of money.

 
SC911:
The problem is I only have time to take online classes :/.
This is complete bullshit. If you only have time to take online courses then you are doing something wrong. Why can't you take a couple classes at a local college where your money might actually produce something useful for you rather than online where you're basically just setting that cash on fire?
If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
 

This is complete bullshit. If you only have time to take online courses then you are doing something wrong. Why can't you take a couple classes at a local college where your money might actually produce something useful for you rather than online where you're basically just setting that cash on fire?

^ I work a 9-6..

and to Connor-- Yes I work in the financial district in NYC but I figured I would be able to get more credits/work done faster by taking them online? Why is getting an online degree setting my money on fire? jw.

 

I think we need a little more background here...

So since you work in the financial district, you probably already have a BS and want your MBA?

What type of job are you trying to leverage that degree for? IB, S&T, Accounting, Consulting, etc.?

Apply to NYU stern, Columbia, St. John's, Baruch, Queen's, and Fordham.

 

I worked 60 hours a week and did my BS National Guard shit one weekend a month whil in UG and still took 18 hours a semester. Sack up or quit. Take classes that go from 7 - 10.

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
 

Moral of the story: We all work hard. If you want to be FO, you gotta be willing to put in the extra work to get that job. On top of that you must build relationships to get you into that firm you're aiming for. I think building a solid foundation of hard work before you get to the firm you want will help you in the long run. Going to night school is not a big deal, and plus you might meet some hot chicks who have potential to be successful.

 

Actually no, I don't have a BS or anything at all. I got hooked up with a job through a friend as a jr account executive at a firm and have just been working.. Regardless if I will be sucessful without a degree or not isn't my concern. I've decided that I want to get a degree for myself mostly and was looking into schools but i'm going to take everyones advice and take night classes and start at a local college ( Queens ), and hopefully transfer. Thanks for all the feedback guys.

 

I think you would be best suited for online courses provided by a brick & mortar school.

Many schools offer this now. Look into: Hofstra, Queens, St. Johns, Baruch, Fordham, or other SUNY/CUNY schools.

 

Just a quick note here, but you mentioned that you're working as a junior account executive without a degree. That means you're cold calling in a boiler room. It won't matter if you graduate magna cum laude from Princeton if you have a bucket shop on your U-4 - no real firm will touch you. If you really want a career in legitimate finance (and it's fine if you don't - I went the bucket shop route and did just fine for myself) you need to put the boiler room in your rear view, like, yesterday.

 
SC911:
But interesting info.. what if I don't consider this a bucket shop?

LOL. It's not so much what you consider it, bro. It's what the rest of the Street considers it. And the regulators.

If you're in a place that you know is a boiler room (even if you're not actually pounding the phones) get some distance quickly. You don't want that shit on your resumé, and you especially don't want it on your U-4. It's hard enough to get a job in this biz without having to answer, "What the fuck were you doing working at that chop shop???" at every interview.

 
Edmundo Braverman:
SC911:
But interesting info.. what if I don't consider this a bucket shop?

LOL. It's not so much what you consider it, bro. It's what the rest of the Street considers it. And the regulators.

If you're in a place that you know is a boiler room (even if you're not actually pounding the phones) get some distance quickly. You don't want that shit on your resumé, and you especially don't want it on your U-4. It's hard enough to get a job in this biz without having to answer, "What the fuck were you doing working at that chop shop???" at every interview.

Ahh, No i'm definitely not working in the kind of environment that you're thinking about lol. I maybe pick up the phone 6-10 times a day.. and that's INCOMING calls. I don't make any calls.. I manage clients/accounts that our firm has and assist them etc.

 

When I have kids and they are of age to go to college, they'll laugh at how Dad used to walk into a physical building, sit in a giant lecture hall with 300 other people, and listen to a professor speak, in person. At 8am.

Just like I would laugh at the idea of going to a library to do research for a paper. Or my older colleagues who used to wait by the fax machine or for the mail for the latest broker research.

It'll take quite some time for "elite" wall street jobs to be filled by people with these types of degrees. First, main street America will come to accept the new paradigm - the types of jobs where it's important that you just went to college. The street will still have strong alumni networks and pressure from within to hire mostly from top schools.

They challenge, as I see it, is to differentiate among online schools. The barriers to start a New New School Online will be much lower - we'll have to see how the accreditation boards deal with this. This will create a lot of difficulties for prospective students and prospective employers.

Think about your college selection process - there were top schools, then there are maybe the better state schools or local options that appealed to you. You could look at the US News rankings of the top 500 or whatever. How are you going to make an educated decision about which online school you wish to attend while in your PJs?

It'll be equally challenging for employers. Again, some will care only that you have a degree. Above that, it'll be really tough. Especially when the top schools start offering fully online degrees. Is a Harvard 2.0 degree as good as a Harvard 1.0? Maybe not. But Harvard 2.0 versus University of Michigan 1.0?

BTW, I do think the traditional top schools will offer fully online degrees and will be the most successful at the online game, largely due to branding. That will also take time - if there's one institution, outside of the government, that is resistant to change it's probably stuffy, tenured, elite schools with deep traditions.

 

Education is an almost exclusively information-based business. And yet entrenched educational institutions tend to sneer at the idea of using information technology to lower the costs of an education. Obviously educators are more concerned with protecting their own entrenched interests than with their students.

 

I call fail. And here's why: how will these kids find jobs?

Let me guess ... online. They will sit at home and apply to jobs ... online? They will network ... online? Go to interviews ... online? Maybe I am a fool or a healthy skeptic. But for some reason, I call bs.

 
karypto:
I call fail. And here's why: how will these kids find jobs?

Let me guess ... online. They will sit at home and apply to jobs ... online? They will network ... online? Go to interviews ... online? Maybe I am a fool or a healthy skeptic. But for some reason, I call bs.

I was waiting for this to come up because networking appears to be the weak link in the online chain. But then I thought about it. Outside of college, how is most networking done today? You shoot someone an introductory email or maybe someone you know hooks you up on LinkedIn or some other social site.

OCR could be done by Google Hangout, first rounds by Skype are becoming more and more common, and pretty much everything we do these days is either by phone or online. Very little face to face interaction until it's absolutely necessary.

So I asked myself what is more likely: the new paradigm will fail because you can't network face to face, or the new paradigm will succeed because the business environment will evolve to accommodate the new paradigm? Clearly I think the latter is more likely.

It's hard to do a keg stand on a laptop, though.

 

Just going to put it out there, university isn't just about your course / book based education....

"After you work on Wall Street it’s a choice, would you rather work at McDonalds or on the sell-side? I would choose McDonalds over the sell-side.” - David Tepper
 

I feel that there is some psychological value in having to sit through lectures in person, where there are few distractions and you have nothing much better to do than to just listen and take notes.

The fact that Internet studying is not effective can be seen clearly by the number of laptops that are open to Facebook at any given time in class, even in Ivy League schools.

In addition, online schools make it next to impossible to develop any sort of meaningful research partnership with professors, or collaborative activities with classmates, or friends for that matter - those things that are essential to the college experience will be taken away.

I don't believe in this model. But I'm curious to hear what others have to say and how this plays out.

 

I can't add links to my posts, but if you take a look at my last post, you will see that such initiatives already exist. I'm currently following some online courses, but personally I don't see it as a substitute for 'tangible' education, merely as an addition.

 

Is this going to be a for-profit or non-profit (sounds like a for-profit based on the preferred funding). For-profits are getting smoked right now because of regulatory issues - it's going to get harder and harder for these schools to regional accreditation, and without that they aren't worth anything. There are something like 4,000 Title IV eligible for-profit schools out there and the fact of the matter is, most of them are crap. I don't see how even an "Ivy League" caliber online school overcomes the for-profit stigma/regulatory barriers.

"For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry God. Bloody Mary full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now and at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon. Amen."
 
kyleyboy:
I think it'd be a good thing if it happened. It'd likely be 20 years before online education is advanced enough to work. I think it will happen though .

20 years? UW Madison has had online classes for over 8 years already. I mean you can get a graduate engineering degree online from most colleges including Columbia, Michigan, Madison... Online classes are nothing new, in fact most if not all universities have had online classes for about at least 5+. Online classes does not equate University of Phoenix.

Harvey Specter doesn't get cotton mouth.
 

I don't think so, for the same reason bankers spend half their lives in airplanes despite having easy access to sophisticated teleconferencing technology or the same reason you will spend $50 for tickets to a concert being simulcast for free over youtube: being there counts. And the idea of coming out and saying you're building an Ivy League caliber university online is laughable.

I think it's swell that venture capitalists and university presidents are excited about the potential to scale for-profit education to global proportions, but I would probably ding anybody who spent tens of thousands of dollars for glorified TED talks.

 
Sterling Archer:
I don't think so, for the same reason bankers spend half their lives in airplanes despite having easy access to sophisticated teleconferencing technology or the same reason you will spend $50 for tickets to a concert being simulcast for free over youtube: being there counts. And the idea of coming out and saying you're building an Ivy League caliber university online is laughable.

I think it's swell that venture capitalists and university presidents are excited about the potential to scale for-profit education to global proportions, but I would probably ding anybody who spent tens of thousands of dollars for glorified TED talks.

I have to agree with this, and my opinion stems largely from this piece by Adam Falk, Williams President.

At Williams College, where I work, we've analyzed which educational inputs best predict progress in these deeper aspects of student learning. The answer is unambiguous: By far, the factor that correlates most highly with gains in these skills is the amount of personal contact a student has with professors. Not virtual contact, but interaction with real, live human beings, whether in the classroom, or in faculty offices, or in the dining halls. Nothing else—not the details of the curriculum, not the choice of major, not the student's GPA—predicts self-reported gains in these critical capacities nearly as well as how much time a student spent with professors.
Technology has and will continue to improve how we teach. But what it cannot do is remove human beings from the equation. Coursera, one of the new purveyors of massive, open online courses, proposes to crowd-source the grading of essays, as if averaging letter grades assigned by five random peers were the educational equivalent of a highly trained professor providing thoughtful evaluation and detailed response. To pretend that this is so is to deny the most significant purposes of education, and to forfeit its true value.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100008723963904443272045776155927467999…

 

I do think this is the way of the future, but I think a very important life-skill is lost. This gives another excuse for already potentially socially inept people (nerds) to NOT speak to other human beings face-to-face....

Anyone can convince others they have enormous balls talking on the phone or on some form of video chat, but put that mouse in a room full of senior execs and watch them cower.

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Wow. Imagining my kid "going to college" online in my basement is literally the most fucking depressing thing I've heard all week. Makes my allergies flare up.

Maybe there's value in online education. Admittedly, I've learned more self-studying for the CFA than all four years of school. For certain types that devalue human interaction, hate fun, or maybe have some grotesque deformity barring them from walking into a classroom like a normal person, online education might be the way to go. Sounds like heaven for Manti Teo and all the warcraft kids. But as Oreos mentioned, the value of college doesn't come from the classroom. This is just sad.

 

Call me silly, but in the next 5-10 years we will have a lot of soul searching 20 somethings ... who will have quarter life crises after another on an out of proportion level. They will be fired, be out of work for months on end .... and maybe create something. Just build companies. Recessions do this .... to those who can cut it.

Because face it, what someone like D.J Stephens is doing, see below, does not translate well in to a BB or F500

http://www.uncollege.org/

As much as it's cool, I see no 'tangible work skills' from an employer perspective (the good answer is something like 'he has no quantifiable work skills', the real answer [I'm the employer if you are following along] is that this kid is doing something cool with his life and I wasn't in my 20s so instead I will hire those who suffered through college).

tl;dr Employers shy away from non cookie cutter experiences

 

It's a neat idea and I love anything that gives legitimate, good opportunities at a lower price. I think it's what you make of it.

Think outside the stereotype of an "online degree" for a minute with me.

Here's what I would do: use the fact that you can go to class online to live in ~8 different countries during undergrad and learn ~4 languages fluently. Live in Boston and jibe with some Harvard/MIT frat party folk for a semester (just connect to a bunch of kids on Linkedin and keep in touch), then go to London and drop in on a few LSE/LBS/Oxbridge classes, live in Paris for a semester and connect with some INSEAD/HEC kids, move to Sweden and just enjoy the liberal/aggressive approach the beautiful girls there take to life/sex, then do some traveling in North Africa and the Middle East (Israel is an amazing place), study some Arabic, maybe do Istanbul for a few months. Next move to Asia and get at least conversational in Mandarin and rock the Phillipines, Vietnam, Thailand, Japan, Taiwan, and Australia/NZ if there's time. Maybe do a fifth year.

I think that kid might get a few interviews.

if you like it then you shoulda put a banana on it
 

I think some form of government regulation is going to kill this process or slow it down. The market is already over saturated with college graduates and if online learning becomes the next big thing a college degree would become pretty much worthless. The world still needs construction workers and plumbers.

Competition is a sin. -John D. Rockefeller
 

Is this the same Larry Summers who believes women have less mathematical capabilities?

I do like the idea of an online university replacing the traditional path that kept me away for a while. The fact is not every kid has the ability to pick up his shit, get in mom's van and then head to some Target. Even when those kids get into bigger schools the unspoken costs of "dorm-room damages" and shady realty companies that screw you out of hundreds of dollars - that is simply not possible for some. The online universe has a harder time being racist, sexist or some of pedigree following elitist to a specific individual sitting behind an IP. Furthermore, isn't the whole finance world ape-shit about internships? Wouldn't online classes allow for significantly more flexibility allowing one to gain relevant experience? Lastly, more and more professors are going the "online" route where all your assignments, papers, tests are submitted and taken online. It only makes sense to move legit classes online as well.

 

From my perspective, I don't think you can replace the experience of going to a real, physical college with an online-only program. I think that highly specialized online programs make more sense. i.e.) you earn a certificate in a specialized field of engineering or business. Not an entire equivalent to a four year college degree.

I was an econ major at NYU. It was a great school and I definitely learned a good deal. But, I wouldn't say that it was because of the curriculum in my major. Moreso, I think I learned to be a more adept thinking and a more complete person through a combination of traditional lectures, smaller class discussion sessions, and working in live groups. Not to mention the social growth you get by living amongst your peers and having to take responsibility for yourself to do things like get to class on time, get your work done, possibly work part time, and balance a social life in-between all of that. I feel like an online-only school eliminates so much of the intangibles of the college experience. And I honestly do believe it would stunt one's social abilities. We already spend enough time online as it is...

 
TheKing:
From my perspective, I don't think you can replace the experience of going to a real, physical college with an online-only program. I think that highly specialized online programs make more sense. i.e.) you earn a certificate in a specialized field of engineering or business. Not an entire equivalent to a four year college degree.

I was an econ major at NYU. It was a great school and I definitely learned a good deal. But, I wouldn't say that it was because of the curriculum in my major. Moreso, I think I learned to be a more adept thinking and a more complete person through a combination of traditional lectures, smaller class discussion sessions, and working in live groups. Not to mention the social growth you get by living amongst your peers and having to take responsibility for yourself to do things like get to class on time, get your work done, possibly work part time, and balance a social life in-between all of that. I feel like an online-only school eliminates so much of the intangibles of the college experience. And I honestly do believe it would stunt one's social abilities. We already spend enough time online as it is...

Agree with this. I probably got dumber in my four years of college, but I sure as hell grew up a lot, which I think was more important. Probably not worth $150K, but oh well.

"For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry God. Bloody Mary full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now and at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon. Amen."
 

Yeah, I think there is probably a more optimal system that combines offline and online education. Spending $100K+ for four years when the most important things you learn are generally intangible or could be learned just as well on online / in the real world / through work experience is absurd. There's got to be a better way to combine things and make a new system that takes the best of both worlds while also reducing costs.

I will add that, in looking back, I found that my introductory liberal arts classes were among the most important classes I took. Not because I need to reference Plato's Republic on a daily basis, but because classes like that really hone your critical thinking and writing skills. It's also important to be not be a finance / engineering / STEM drone. You've got to have a decently well-rounded education to be a decently well-rounded person. In my view, at least.

 

Half tuition? Half tuition of an Ivy education? That's prohibitively expensive for an online degree!

Online education is an invaluable resource for the public at large but it cannot substitute college. People tend to discount the experience of college and associated ancillary benefits. This looks like another case of overestimating what the internet can deliver. And Larry Summers...if ever there was an indicator of a disaster in the making.

 

You go to University to network and meet people. You learn to interact with others. In my grad class all the Ivy league liberal art kids learned as much in 2 months as I learned in 4 years of studying business and finance. The point? You don't go to college to learn about finance, you get that on the job. You go to college to be surrounded by people who will be your future network. When someone I interview tells me he knows all about derivs because he studied it in college, he will never manage to answer a simple question I ask about how derivs work in the real world. Rambling etc... But stop thinking that you need to learn specific subjects to get a job. Maybe IT is different as you need to learn a language and be a good programmer. But even then, uni helps as you get to interact with others, and it will help construct you in your future corporate life.

In sum: this is by far the dumbest idea I have ever heard, and just another way for some Uni to scrap some money from students. No matter how "ivy" that bull shit education is.

 
Disjoint:
You go to University to network and meet people. You learn to interact with others. In my grad class all the Ivy league liberal art kids learned as much in 2 months as I learned in 4 years of studying business and finance. The point? You don't go to college to learn about finance, you get that on the job. You go to college to be surrounded by people who will be your future network. When someone I interview tells me he knows all about derivs because he studied it in college, he will never manage to answer a simple question I ask about how derivs work in the real world. Rambling etc... But stop thinking that you need to learn specific subjects to get a job. Maybe IT is different as you need to learn a language and be a good programmer. But even then, uni helps as you get to interact with others, and it will help construct you in your future corporate life.

In sum: this is by far the dumbest idea I have ever heard, and just another way for some Uni to scrap some money from students. No matter how "ivy" that bull shit education is.

This. You don't go to college for the knowledge imparted (except STEM majors). Harvard has offered classes (and degrees) through the extension school for years. Same professors as the college. If companies cared about what you learned, Goldman et al. would just have gigantic standardized tests to screen applicants.

Actually, that's not a bad idea to preserve the value of a college degree. Have a bunch of colleges get together and create a "college exit exam". Require an aggregate score to get your diploma. Have it cover basically everything. Either show deep knowledge of your major or decent knowledge across multiple subjects.

Unless your degree directly relates to your job, college is largely a 200k sorting mechanism for human resources. And it has become an increasingly necessary stepping stone to independence as high school students have become more reliant on their parents.

 

Forget online target schools, there needs to be more programs in place like the CFA. Depending on the individual, he can self-study from books provided by the institute, or study in groups, or sign up for online/in person instruction. And passing a difficult and rigorous exam like the CFA is often more impressive to potential employers than an A in econ/accounting classes in a brick and mortar school (or online school).

 

What I don't understand is why does it have to be one or the other, online or brick & mortar?

I think the best universities of the future will be those that effectively utilize both online and conventional teaching methods as well as offer students the best extracurricular, networking and research opportunities.

The internet combined with mobile and PC apps will allow universities to seriously cut costs by reducing the most ineffective and wasteful practices. As an engineering student, I can safely say that >75% of what I learn in a course comes directly from the book. Classrooms are only beneficial for in depth lectures on especially difficult topics, labs or tutorials. Even then, online aspects could be introduced to enrich the experience.

Online lectures used in conjunction with in-class ones will lower overhead by reducing building, maintenance and repair costs, while maximizing the number of students reached. Some students prefer to sit in class, others would rather watch in bed. Furthermore, lectures videos will be available in case a student misses important details, or had difficulty understanding a particular concept.

Students will be able to attend ANY class they want, without waiting lists or prioritized selection. Once the online lecture database is mature, low attendance lectures can be cut, eliminating the need to pay a prof for those lectures.

Online homework is easier to prepare, submit and grade, as well as more enjoyable to complete (This largely depends on the devs skill and investment). You don't lose it, it helps enforce submission times and plagiarism. Not to mention it's eco-friendly. Admittedly there is the risk of technical difficulties or bugs.

As for parties, extracurriculars, sports, events, career fairs, etc, what is stopping these from occurring? They will still be organized by the same people and students will continue to attend with enthusiasm. WSO has meetups all over the world. Any online community can do the same, especially one that has a brick and mortar hub to support it.

I don't see how anyone can look at such a costly and inefficient sector, one that is arguably the most important in the evolution of humanity, and not welcome such promising advancements. The internet is the new Industrial Revolution, and Online Education is the key that will unlock potential from people who otherwise would be working on a farm somewhere in a sugar cane plantation.

 

While I think the concept of new "prestigious" online universities is a pipe dream, I will be interesting to see how online degrees from current prestigious schools are viewed going forward. Currently only a handful of top schools offer graduate degrees entirely online (Columbia, Stanford, northwestern, Carnegie Mellon, unc kenan flagler, etc)...while not advertised much as online edu becomes more commonplace it will be interesting to see how these types of programs at these types of schools fare...

 

Let me start off saying that I do not have a financial position of any kind; I am currently active duty military stationed in Turkey attending school online. Without online schooling I would not have a way of receiving a formal education. The stigma of a kid sitting in their parent’s basement is biased. The school I am attending is not Ivy League but it is non-profit, University of North Dakota MS in Applied Economics. I attend class via live web seminar in my pajamas sometimes due to the eight hour time difference. Do I lose out a little on the research aspect? Yes but I make up for it with real world international economic experience. An individual attending Harvard does not know firsthand how the Syrian conflict affects business, trade and life in a bordering country. I will admit that my case is an exception but employers will be able to distinguish between those of us with real world experience making the best of our situation and those who just stay at their parent’s house playing World of Warcraft.

“I am always saying "Glad to've met you" to somebody I'm not at all glad I met. If you want to stay alive, you have to say that stuff, though.” ― J.D. Salinger, The Catcher in the Rye
 

Online school is a good alternative to the traditional education. However, I think it still lacks the recognition it needs and respect for its students to land any decent jobs. If you are looking to learn accounting or something similar, you can always take the online version of a local community college course. If you are looking to get a degree, then I would recommend you to take the traditional education route. Just me 2cents.

 

Online school is a good alternative to the traditional education. However, I think it still lacks the recognition it needs and respect for its students to land any decent jobs. If you are looking to learn accounting or something similar, you can always take the online version of a local community college course. If you are looking to get a degree, then I would recommend you to take the traditional education route. Just me 2cents.

 

The reason as to why online schools, at least now, are inferior to regular bricks and mortar institutions is that you have faculty that might be willing to sit there and explain things to you. That and trying to network online to get a job is a bit tougher than talking to people in class and trying to get in like Flynt.

Perhaps in a decade or so this will change, as things often do, so you never know. But, until then try to get into the best university you can, go in debt if you have to, because if you don't you'll be wishing you had.


Hawtness is a state of being, not how you look like... I'm pretty, so pretty...

 

Athabsca University isn't that bad. rated 3rd in canada according to canadian business in 2001 for EMBA's and on the FT listings 2003, 2004, 2006 for EMBA programs worldwide. Only online mba to make the rankings! I am looking on the alumni and mind you not many IB positions at all but the majority of its 1700+ alumni are director level or higher. For example the CFO of the Department of national defense in canada is on the alumni among the ceo of coka-cola canada. Sr director of CIBC, sr VP of universial studio's and so on...

 

while you might not be able to talk about the quality of the education what-so-ever, many traditional schools have been trying to discredit online colleges. i find this strange since many of them have online programs too, just 4x the price. maybe someday that will change but for now people like their pedigrees.

what do you guys think about someone getting an online say bs, getting some type of small banking job that wouldnt need a degree at all, then hoping to move up somehow?

 

that would be through sheer talent, ability & personality with the ability to influence others. My friends a CTO of a Canadian CLEC (phone company) with a high school diploma and no education past gr 12, hes 33. Banking you need a formal education in a large institution to be taken seriously. Other industries you don't. Another friend is doing an online degree with Jones international for a MBA. His family own's a 19M/year 26 year old company that's the largest in canada for what they do and he could afford to go to any school really but really likes the material he is learning and doesn't regret it. then my cousin went to chicago to get a MBA and works at CIBC world markets in ny as an I-banker previously at anderson consulting. He works 100hr weeks. everythings relative and it depends on the industry.

 

Florida State and UMass Amherst have completely online MBAs. Indiana's requires only one week of residency. Penn State requires two campus visits and Arizona State requires only one campus visit.

I believe the UF MBA requires a few campus visits.

 
TraderJoe1976:
google "businessweek mba rankings". Then click on the tab "Online MBA". That will give you the complete list of online MBAs along with a lot of other data.

Do you mean the distance tab?

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Yup, it is the Distance tab. There is a ton of useful information for each of the MBA programs which is accurate information. But, for rankings, refer to USNews rankings and not the BusinessWeek rankings. Also, to get best ROI select a highly ranked program near where you want to live and work. This way you get better recognition and job prospects and Alumni network.

 

Awesome, thanks guys.

You're born, you take shit. You get out in the world, you take more shit. You climb a little higher, you take less shit. Till one day you're up in the rarefied atmosphere and you've forgotten what shit even looks like. Welcome to the layer cake, son.
 

I have a follow-up question to this... I was recently accepted to the UMass-Amherst and Florida State online MBA programs, which are just about even in price. I'm waiting to hear back from UNC and NYU, which are, of course, much more expensive programs to attend.

1) Even though the degree would not have any mention of "online" on it, are these type of degress frowned upon? 2) Would an MBA degree from UMass or Florida State prove to be valuable when looking for a job? 3) If I were to be accepted into UNC or NYU, would it be wise to run up such a large tab for an MBA?

 

An online MBA is not a competitive option, unfortunately, nor are either of those schools. NYU and UNC are both very legitimate programs, with the edge going to Stern (known as a banking factory plus it comes with the advantages of location, proximity for recruiting and networking and all).

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This idiot spammed a link in another thread. My guess is she/he/it is planning to post the link in here again.

Go away. This isn't your target market.

P.S., this isn't even a "health care and management" site, why didn't you just say finance? You might have lured a few of the younglings on here (probably not, though). Take my prior advice, and go spam kids in online video games. They don't want to leave the basement to get their degree anyway.

 

didn't know online universities were good to begin with... might be wrong.

random hackneyed words of wisdom

"... then, lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it."
 

I'm not an expert or even close, but online degrees aren't too popular on this site...

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough. "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.
 

Bad idea. Just take a couple classes or something but getting an online degree won't do anything but ensure I toss your resume out as soon as I see "MS in IT - Strayor University" or whatever.

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
 

Waste of money. Online degrees and for profit schools are a fucking joke. It really fucks with my views, but I almosstt think these places of 'higher education' should be shut down. They do nothing but exploit fucking idiots and work with our government to create the student loan bubble we are seeing.

When I hear people say that they are college graduates, but got the degree from one of these schools I first want to point and laugh that they actually think they went to college. But then I look at how proud they are that they went to 'college' that I get pissed off at the schools themselves.

 

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