KONY 2012, why do we care?
With all of this KONY 2012 crap going viral, it made me think. Why do we as a society feel the constant need to support an endless number of causes. I passionately support causes that are close to me. For example I donate a considerable sum of money to the JDRF every year along with a few other things. These things hit close to home and are very important to me.
I do not however understand our constant need to support every cause out there. I get the whole civil war thing is sad. However it does directly affect me in any way. I guess it is the narcissistic and psychopathic nature that I have. But with allof the shit that happens here you would think we would give a few shits more about our own back yard before going out and taking on another helpless cause abroad.
I'm with you, a lot of people who share the video on Facebook will probably forget about it in a few weeks. It's become cool to be a "social activist" nowadays.
wow, and you guys wonder why people are mad at Wall Street..
http://i.imgur.com/K3mgn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hVuEW.jpg
Because if you can show your genuine care to Kony2012, you can get into HBS. Hmm, I wonder why.
At my lame non-target Invisible Children comes on campus to recruit "activists," 400 kids show up; Credit Suisse Private Banking came and ~15 kids were there. WTF?
Isn't that how it's supposed to be?
Not when the bank doesn't return because of little turn out...
I'm just observing how the non-profit/save Africa culture is sending a lot of kids into non-productive jobs where they basically take charitable money and ship goats/water tanks to Africa.
Your non-target gets Credit Suisse private banking? Fuck my school really is a super non-target
Yeah, why do we care. Let those fuckers just murder in Africa, it's not our business, isn't it? Guys like you make me sick.
You ready to suit up?
^^what's wrong with that? not everybody need's to be ballin straight out of college. [nm I thought you were saying something against it, don't think you were now...]
Come on heister, you can't see why people would care? Stuff's sad as hell and anybody with half a brain wants Kony dead. People support causes because it's a nice thing to do. One thing that I absolutely want to do before I die is change somebody's life for the better significantly, helping people out makes almost everybody feel good... except you I guess ha.
And yeah, selfishly, I may want to help out others to make myself feel good, maybe even moreso than to just help somebody... so what? wanna fight about it?
I just watched a minute or two of the video, but when you see a kid talking about how he would honestly rather be dead or when he talks about seeing his brother executed for trying to escape, it's kinda hard not to feel something from it.
People support this cause because its "cool." I doubt they care about the starving families or gang-persecuted children of inner-city LA. But hell, if you can transform yourself into a social activist by getting a Twitter and @@@@@@@@ it will score you mad points with the sales clerk at Urban Outfitters.
Seriously though, if you really want to help people, start with something close to you (i.e. your community, disease that has affected your family, etc.). Killing Kony will do little to stop the inherent problem.
Furthermore, half of the people supporting the government intervention in this matter opined against the Iraq invasion, the removal of the Taliban, Liberia, and don't give a shit about what is going on in North Korea or Syria. It's just the flavor of the week.
+1
I think it's one of those things, for me at least, where if that was me being kidnapped and brainwashed or whatever, I would want someone to try and help me. Some of this stuff is extremely messed up, and like other posters have said, I want to at least try and make a difference in someone's life.
Btw heister, as a Type 1 Diabetic since age 3, thank you for your donations to JDRF.
^^I can't really argue against what you said except for "people support this because it's cool"... I'm sure there are a lot of them, but I'm sure there are a lot more that are genuinely disgusted by the savage beast.
Wonder what the response to the invasion of Iraq would've been if there was a viral video like this about Saddam Hussein. ha
If you don't care, why make a thread about it?
p.s. That's a fucked up attitude to have.
People need to wake the up and realize things are not always what they seem.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/obama-sends-100-us-troops-…
"Uganda has substantial natural resources, including fertile soils, regular rainfall, and sizable mineral deposits of copper and cobalt. The country has largely untapped reserves of both crude oil and natural gas."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda
It's funny how this has been going for years.
All it took to get kids blogging about it was a nice slogan and artsy photo.
Bingo. Methinks this won't be such a pressing issue next week, maybe even tomorrow.
A lot of you guys are so fucking narrow-minded it makes me sick. OP I'm not really understanding your point.
So the cause has to directly affect you before it's worth being supported? This type of thinking really pisses me off. If another Holocaust ever happens, then I personally believe that it's a moral obligation for the countries that are capable of resolving the crisis to do so. I don't have any Jewish relatives, so another Holocaust wouldn't directly affect me in any way. It's just the right thing to do. The same reason that I think it's a moral obligation to intervene (or at the very least call 911) when you witness a child (even if you don't know him) being kidnapped.
Just because we have our own problems doesn't mean that problems outside of our country aren't worth pursuing.
Who gives a fuck what the motives of these people raising awareness of these atrocities are? I don't give a fuck if someone donates to charity for selfish reasons. The fact of the matter is that he's donating, and that's commendable regardless of the donor's intentions.
You're right, your Excel models and powerpoint presentations are doing a much greater service to society than the stupid kids shipping water to starving villages in Africa. People like you are why Wall Street gets such a bad stigma. Not everyone finds the work of a banker's job to be fulfilling. Believe it or not, some people would prefer to do humanitarian work for a living despite the drastic pay cut because that sort of work is more meaningful and fulfilling to them.
Yea there are definitely a shit ton of other atrocities besides Kony's Lord's Resistance Army going on in this world right now like North Korea, Syria, etc. I think that if it's in our power to help, then we should. Not sure why you're trying to belittle people who want to stop innocent kids from being kidnapped and forced to torture/kill other innocent people. If it's solely because it doesn't directly affect you, then you're a really pathetic human being.
Whoa man chill out. The point isn't that its not an atrocity, the point is the hypocrisy of the "twitter revolution," generation. I never said Excel modeling skills were fulfilling to everyone or that it makes a difference in the world; my point is that a huge amount of kids go on these "mission" trips to Africa, basically show up, build a water-tower, take a picture with an African baby, then leave...ten years later the town is without water and the problem persists. College students, especially at my college, make these emotional decisions to support any cause that sells a cool t-wso/">shirt or makes an effective video...if you are passionate about it then fine, whatever...but the fact that there are much more pressing issues affecting most of these kids (even their own families and communities) and yet the choose to claim social activism by reposting KONY 2012 should strike you as suspect to the veracity of their intentions.
I'll give you a great example: Last fall my college hosted a "Support the Africans/whatever week." Kids slept in cardboard boxes and basically starved themselves for a week while selling t-shirts to raise awareness. The week went by and people were stoked on the whole thing...come Saturday out come the laptops and Starbucks coffee and literally I haven't heard anything about the cause since. Kids came out in droves to attend the organizations presentation that week...6 mos later about 8 kids are at the meetings.
Therein lies my point: the vast majority of people participating feel a sense of community and self-satisfaction in participation but don't really care about actually committing themselves to solving the roots of these problems, and it all reality don't do anything about the problems afflicting those close to them.
Just because I point out the hypocrisy I see (and hear day-in, day-out) on-campus, doesn't mean I don't support charity. Well-reasoned charity is fine, but this "movement," is the most flavor of the week thing I've seen in forever.
Leave it to Heist to come in, drop succinct knowledge and then leave the conversation. Dude is an A10 Warthog.
It isn't in our power to help these people. Just like Iraqi's pissed and moaned when Saddam was killing and gassing them and now blow us up and condemn us, so will Africans. I remember the global outcry over the Taliban and how they treated women, gays, Christians, etc. Now we accidently burn a book and people start dying.
I don't pay 30% taxes for the USA to be the worlds do-gooder. Cut taxes and let people fend for themselves.
And if anyone actually gives a shit about these people, feel free to join the Foreign Legion.
http://www.legion-recrute.com/en/
[quote=ANT]Leave it to Heist to come in, drop succinct knowledge and then leave the conversation. Dude is an A10 Warthog.
It isn't in our power to help these people. Just like Iraqi's pissed and moaned when Saddam was killing and gassing them and now blow us up and condemn us, so will Africans. I remember the global outcry over the Taliban and how they treated women, gays, Christians, etc. Now we accidently burn a book and people start dying.
I don't pay 30% taxes for the USA to be the worlds do-gooder. Cut taxes and let people fend for themselves.
And if anyone actually gives a shit about these people, feel free to join the Foreign Legion.
http://www.legion-recrute.com/en/[/quote]
I completely agree with you here, but this seems at odds from all your other posts. Aren't you pretty hawkish on war? Weren't you a big supporter of the Iraq/Afhanistan invasions?
Care to explain? That's a pretty bold statement.
Have you seen "No End in Sight"? It talks about how horribly the War in Iraq was handled. I don't support Iraqi anti-American sentiment by any means, but I do understand where they're coming from. I'm definitely no expert on Iraq and haven't done much research on the issue, but it seems like you're way oversimplifying the conflict. They don't hate us because we killed Saddam. They loved us for that. it's because we've fucked up the country to the point that despite toppling Saddam's regime, Iraq is not really any better off and may even be worse off than it was before. I mean imagine if some predominantly Muslim country invaded us, toppled our dictator, and then handled our country in the same way we handled Iraq. So for example, not establishing Martial Law or any sort of order within the first couple of months, only protecting the oil ministry while ignoring all the other looting going on, disbanding the army (thus making 500,000 young men unemployed and no longer able to support their families), barging into homes and arresting suspected insurgents, etc etc. Within all the chaos and lawlesness, I promise you that a big-ass army of pissed off rebels would form, consisting of a lot of hardcore Christians, poor people who've got nothing to lose, and ex-soldiers who know where all the guns are. Hell you'd probably join.
Again, I'm not that knowledgeable on this topic so please correct me if I'm wrong.
[quote=ANT]Leave it to Heist to come in, drop succinct knowledge and then leave the conversation. Dude is an A10 Warthog.
It isn't in our power to help these people. Just like Iraqi's pissed and moaned when Saddam was killing and gassing them and now blow us up and condemn us, so will Africans. I remember the global outcry over the Taliban and how they treated women, gays, Christians, etc. Now we accidently burn a book and people start dying.
I don't pay 30% taxes for the USA to be the worlds do-gooder. Cut taxes and let people fend for themselves.
And if anyone actually gives a shit about these people, feel free to join the Foreign Legion.
http://www.legion-recrute.com/en/[/quote]
We were requested to go and help the leaders of this country to kill Kony. Guys one of the worst people in the world; this isn't something to argue about. Its silly to think we cant help the people there by killing this guy. Now, in terms of making a LASTING change, thats a different and completely irrelevant story. Militaries can only buy time, they cant solve problems to which destruction of very specific political institutions arent the goal.
[quote=ANT]Leave it to Heist to come in, drop succinct knowledge and then leave the conversation. Dude is an A10 Warthog.
It isn't in our power to help these people. Just like Iraqi's pissed and moaned when Saddam was killing and gassing them and now blow us up and condemn us, so will Africans. I remember the global outcry over the Taliban and how they treated women, gays, Christians, etc. Now we accidently burn a book and people start dying.
I don't pay 30% taxes for the USA to be the worlds do-gooder. Cut taxes and let people fend for themselves.
And if anyone actually gives a shit about these people, feel free to join the Foreign Legion.
http://www.legion-recrute.com/en/[/quote]
Absolutely agree with you Ant.
It's time to put America 1st. I guess that's why I'm a Ron Paul guy.
Regards
http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/
I'll give props for the Kony 2012 campaign for it's prowess in creating awareness through social media. It was a very well thought out film and the director definitely knew how to appeal to the masses.
Awareness is great, but that goes both ways. It's one thing to see an issue from a very bias perspective, but it's another to actually go and find out the other end of the situation.
Yeah, the irony is how the founder talked about people wanting to feel like they are 'connected' and that they 'belong'...which is why he used social media platforms...but unfortunately, the people getting involved, for the most part, are doing it so they can feel as though they made a difference, even though they did nothing but share a link. If it helps, that's great, but I'm skeptical as to how many people will actually get involved.
I think Happy posted this yesterday, worth checking out..
http://ilto.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/the-visible-problem-with-invisible…
And someone above mentioned that contributing anything is good regardless of the motives, etc. While I partially agree, I have to say it's better to contribute in the most effective way...which typically means the most efficient way. This organization doesn't get its financials audited and we have no clue how they spend their money. My biggest fear is that people are financing an aspiring film director to fly around the world, maybe in first class, just to make movies with a great message. It would be my guess that the money would be best spent with the Salvation Army or Red Cross who might be building schools and educating the poor children in the films instead of underwriting a film that is educating (relatively) rich ones via the internet.
Regards
JDawg are you prepared to suit up and join the military to go over to Uganda and fight for regime change, or do you just want to send our military men and women over there to risk their lives for a foreign group while you sit at home and post updates on facebook?
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Holly fuck I'm dying!
Based on my moral beliefs, I should probably do something like that. But it's not necessarily easy to do the right thing even if theoretically that's what you should be doing. I do however plan to put a lot of effort into helping people when I'm older, sick of working in a cubicle, and financially independent. Before you accuse me of being a dumbass hypocrite, anyone who believes that it's a moral obligation to save a drowning child if it's in your capability to do so are then also in the same boat as me and thus morally obligated to help the millions of other "drowning children" around the world.
Is this realistic? Probably not. So I guess I justify this by planning to make a shit ton of money (and pay off my student loans since I'm still a student) because then at that point I'll prob be capable of making more of a difference than I would be if I just hopped on a plane and flew to Uganda. Warren Buffet can do a lot more to help the world than a single soldier can (no offense). Honestly I'd prob make a shitty soldier anyways.
I wish it was as easy as joining the military, suiting up, and going out to kill the biggest pieces of shit to ever soil the earth... but it's not
It is. The time horizon is just really, really short, and complicated by people who don't understand the true nature of the militaries capabilities.
No, I meant that I wished it was as easy as ME joining the military, getting the training, and then actually going out to kill scumbags.
what?
The only people allowed to bash the critics are the people who are going/have been helping these people. Everyone else is a fucking hypocrite.
In all fairness, KONY simply kills people directly. The US President has killed more people, more regularly than this guy could dream about.
And what is this shit that now everyone is cool with the US assassinating people because of their cruelty. Has there been a trial?
See, I am über hawkish. I believe the US has the right to do anything, invade anywhere, etc. I am simply against hipocracy. Just because KoNY is hot on Reddit people want the US to do something. Saddam was 10x worse and look at how people say Bush should be tried for war crimes.
The US simply should not do anything. People are never grateful. We would invade Uganda and then have to rebuild the country and after 5 years people would forget the past horrors and accuse Amerca of being imperialistic. Then we would leave, broker than we started, with no gains.
We either act like a real imperialistic power (which I support) or we stay the fuck home. No middle ground.
Amen brother!
My beef is that people won't pick a side and stick with it. This Kony stuff has gone viral among my more liberal friends...the same ones that think Bush is a monster and don't think we should have been in Iraq...despite removing a horrible dictator. They are also the people that think war is bad and that guns are bad, etc. These are the same people that work for CNN that ask the people they are interviewing if they regularly visit Reddit (I shit you not, this came up in conversation last weekend and a couple of the people I know that work there admitted that is one of the questions they ask everyone they interview...I just started laughing).
That's fine, if their view is we shouldn't intervene, then we shouldn't...but all of a sudden it's cool and progressive and they are now advocating for the US to send troops to stop these people. It's fucking amazing. For them, and I mean liberals, it's all about feelings and being 'fair'. Bush is bad because of his motives, Obama is good because of his...even know they are heading down the same path.
And I think ANT's point, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that we can't truly help them because when one Kony is killed or removed, another Kony pops up in his place. So unless you are going to have a persistent presence in the country and kill every bad guy you can find, it's not going to change.
Check out the link I posted above that talks about how more has to be done to empower Africans to make the change and how we can't be the great white saviors if we ever expect for things to get better.
Regards
Couldn't agree more on this.
Its always the same story. The very same people that decried the injustice of Iraq in the streets of Washington are the same ones that have advocated for direct intervention in Africa.
Ant, who ever said anything about rebuilding? Fuck rebuilding. Kill the bad guys and come home - minimal work comparatively with greatest potential for positive benefits.
Absolutely never that easy.
Yah sure, send in Delta and kill him. And then what? Africa is a revolving door of cruel dictators.
Listen, I am all for doing shit like this, but in return you must allow the US to be truly imperialistic. Take the gloves off. If not we are better off staying out of it. We have a meat grinder going on south of our boarder that we aren't stopping, why cross the pond?
Ant: And then they come home. Next major evil guy that comes in, we kill him too. Africa is indeed a revolving door of cruel dictators. Thats why it pays more for short term engagements than long term imperialism - the people can't and shouldn't be invested in to the extent that we should expect them to govern themselves in any time line that wouldn't be prohibitively expensive to us.
I agree re: the drug cartels. Legalize the pot and cocaine and take away the majority of their revenues, and they have a few months of life left before their reserves run dry. Then go in and kill leaders of any of their cartels that we've identified. I would support that.
To be honest, I agree with the idea of thinking that this whole KONY 2012 movement is non-sense and is just a calling for people to feel like they are helping out by making a Facebook status or tweeting on Twitter. As someone who has visited Africa for an extended period of time dictators like this are ALL over Africa. So to single out a single country and say OMGZZZZ we gotta do something is complete and utter nonsense.Most of people don't even know that the Invisible children organization that created KONY 2012 only gives 31% to Uganda yes Three one percent. In contrast the Red Cross gives ~90% of money raised to the causes that they support. I can't find the link from before that I read where it gave the break down of charity giving.
If you want to really help these people out I think there is much more one can do then make a Facebook status/ Twitter tweet and then go back to living your normal life.
Just some food for thought.
http://www.sabotagetimes.com/life/kony-2012-invisible-children-respond-…
There is a reason why we shouldn't support KONY 2012. WSJ put out an article in 2009 which talk about how "Why Foreign Aid Is Hurting Africa" The summary is that we are going to help them in the short term but for the long run, they need to start helping themselves. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123758895999200083.html
http://theafrosistuh.tumblr.com/post/18894999432/we-got-trouble
What is so bad about the Tony Awards?
The Soft Bigotry of Kony 2012
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/03/the-soft-bigot…
Random comment, Im just really curious what the Kony 2012 people would think re: this bill, and the fact that there was real support by politicians and people in Uganda for it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Anti-Homosexuality_Bill
the reason its not a moral imperative is the notion of sovereignty. think of it as being a bodyguard and seeing a child drowning but not leaving your principal. systematically, this is justifiable.
I heard Kony got the child army idea from watching peter pan, no joke
BUTT NAKED 2012
It's pretty funny watching all these people just in awe of the fucked up things Kony has gotten away. What is he, like the 9th worst African warlord in the last 20 years? I guess all you have to do is portray the problems there as the white mans burden to get the average American's attention.
I just watched that series on libera. Wow is all I can say.
Shit's been going on for years.Yet now that Uganda has newly-discovered oceans of oil, the world gives a fuck.
Please.
Kony's almost harmelss now...LRA has 250 members down from tens of thousands.
The man's a bitch & deserves to die but I'm taking this outpouring of sympathy & concern with a stout dose of salty cynicism.
So right. People are so gullible it's ridiculous. This guy may not even be alive and yet people are tricked into providing ammo for the oil companies. Maybe I should buy some oil futures.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/419169_31227828216…
http://m.english.al-akhbar.com/content/iraqi-teenagers-stoned-death-emo…
Good to know the Iraqis are doing so well with our occupation strengthened government.
I am divided on the issue.
He is the flavour of a week at someone mentioned. We don't see Assad 2012, nor were normal people condemning Gaddafi outright. Why does Kony get the spotlight when Liberia, Sudan, Sierra Leone experience similar atrocities, if not worst? Did no one bother to look at the history and see Museveni (president who was helped into by the CIA) is also guilty of ethnic cleansing.
Then again, the guy isn't an angel and the LRA are/were scum but wtf, the LRA number less than 500 (if 200 at most). There are bigger scum out there that, frankly, deserve the attention.
Then we have the 'national interests' argument. Its no secret that a country with an abundance in natural resources serves as the ideal 'project' for western nations. Are there motives behind this Kony campaign, spurred by a documentary made in 2006? Again no secret that Ugandan oil reserves, could potentially be one of the largest in the world. Heck, the Chinese are already there looking at refineries.
What evidently is a mess in Africa is a mess because of previous intervention/involvement. I don't mean to preach like some history professor but Africa's problems are rooted in a post-colonial landscape i.e. countries, notably Britain came over, raped the country economically and left a mess for the ill-equipped ethnic groups to settle. This is no conspiracy theory but history. Look at Liberia, Sierra Leone, Kenya, Zimbabwe, South Africa etc. On the Asian side we have India (this is somewhat of an exception but partition was no joke), Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Burma...the list is endless.
If intervention created the mess, further intervention will exacerbate it now.
If anyone cares, they should rally a group of volunteers to go themselves or raise money to hire Xe to kill him.
Quit talking about oil. The money is in the minerals.
In regards to what sub-Saharan Africa brings to the table.
I'm never gonna knock someone for legitimately trying to support a good cause. But people who watch a 30min youtube video and think they are making a difference are ridiculous. It's easy to be an activist from this side of the Atlantic.
Conspicuous compassion
We (society) care because we dont want to see more kids die.
Western governments, on the other hand, have known about this guy for years (in fact Obama has family links to one of the places this guy has fucked up).
The are 2 reasons that the US government are putting troops out there:
China is doing a lot of work in developing Africa at the moment. When economies out there start to grow, they will be paid off and are already getting paid off in some areas (e.g. Congo) by natural resources. The US as usual wants a pirce of the action and these hipsters have given them the perfect excuse. IMO this is the main reason.
Public pressure is mounting; Obama wants to stick around for another few years.
Although the reasons for governments' sudden involvement may not be amicable, at least innocent lives will be saved if the fucker gets clipped.
It is a scam. Read about in the new york times. The army is not 30000 , its 100s, and they don't know where kony is, most likely dead.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/4HOqD5meWbc
http://www.youtube.com/embed/k78xX9uwj-0
I understand why people are criticizing Kony 2012 (oversimplifying the conflict, misleading facts, shady financials, etc), but I find the magnitude of the backlash against it ridiculous. Tons of people may have "jumped on the Kony bandwagon" because it was the "cool" thing to do, but it seems as though it's now the cool thing to bash the campaign.
I've read tons of articles bashing Kony 2012 as if it's doing more harm than good, but have yet to read one that even comes close to showing that. Both of the videos posted above don't say shit. Just because Uganda may have an abundance of oil doesn't mean that Kony 2012 is a scam. Some people say "we need to let Africa deal with its own problems, any effort on our part to help capture Kony would be counterproductive, therefore Kony 2012 is doing more harm than good". I have yet to read an article that argues that and backs it up with any sort of facts or evidence.
Just because there are tons of other atrocities going on in the world doesn't mean that Kony doesn't deserve the attention that its been getting. I would love it if other fucked up shit going on in this world got more awareness and support, but this isn't some zero sum game. I'd actually argue that Kony 2012 has indirectly benefited the relief efforts for all of the other atrocities going on because it's awoken the humanitarian impulses in millions of people who didn't give two shits about supporting humanitarian causes up until now. The purpose of the campaign is awareness. Is awareness alone going to do anything? No. But it's a great first step.
Despite the various faults with the Kony 2012 campaign, it has done way more good than bad.
The Kony video is a propaganda piece supported by special interests that want further US military involvement in Africa. It is deliberately misleading as it paints the image that somehow Uganda is in the midst of war at the moment, which it isn't. Kony is not even in Uganda, probably Sudan or dead.
This video is bad news. The powers that be want the ignorant masses to support further overseas adventurism, and so far it's working.
I agree.
If overseas adventurism = helping to take down Kony (or any other sick fuck), then I'm all for it.
We should consider that it is also possible that this video might have been put up with the interest of producing the backlash against adventurism and imperialism.
How far back should we look at this?
I agree with an above poster who said that this is way more complex than it appears. Conflicts are almost if not 100% fought over money, oil and other natural resources, not to mention the debt that the war produces which is paid back with interest to central banks. Iraq and Afghanistan made billions of dollars for defense, oil, bankers and other corporations looking for a way into the Middle East. Yes, Kony is a bad person. Obviously, he's evil. But to suggest that the focus on Uganda is merely because of what he's doing is very naive. Uganda has lots of crude oil, copper and natural gas. Like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, Algeria, Egypt, Tunisia and now Iran, Uganda is in play because they have natural resources and wealth that "we" want.
Yes, what people are doing to help people of Uganda is a good thing, but let's not lose sight of how capitalism has much to do with warfare or "deposing" dictators around the world because it's convenient or because getting them out of the way will result in billions in revenues. Like Jaime Roldos, Moammar Gaddhafi or Saddam Hussein, he stands in the way of and is the excuse needed to take resources and generate loads of profits for the defense, oil, mining and other industries.
How many times are people willing to be tricked into not reading between the lines? Freeing the Iraqis was code for a corporate takeover. The focus on Iran is about oil. Obviously, Ahmadinejad may want a nuclear weapon, but corporate interests want the oil in Iran, along with the opportunity to sell goods and services in Uganda without restraint. Going after the Taliban was an excuse to run a pipeline through to the Caspian Sea.
Wake up! Clicking a link on a facebook page is the least that corporate interests are concerned about when they want to "intervene."
knew this would be a heister thread, this is great
Sheeple are just like mushrooms. Keep them in the dark and feed them shit. If people can't see that this is another orchestrated excuse to make a shitload of money, I've got some swampland to sell you.
Go ahead and make the oil futures investors richer.
Keep up the good fight!
Of course they're looking for money, but just because they're looking for money doesn't meant that their whole message is now dogshit.
I agree. It's like when people give money to charities it's to make themselves feel better about themselves. So what? It doesn't mean that the ends aren't good.
However, I do think it's quite scary how easily manipulated the general populace is.
Your texan fellow is with you heister
Haha. That video was awesome.
Regards
No one knows what Kony means, but it's provocative... IT GETS PEOPLE GOING
Also, if you haven't seen the videos from Vice, check them out...but in this particular case, the one about North Korea shows exactly what's going on there. Even more to the point is this video...
Regards
This one is good too...
Regards
Konymania
http://www.youtube.com/embed/PGUPr9YhXa4
cph that was very difficult to watch at the end. Thank you.
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