LevFin Exits? Private Credit vs Investing Across Debt and Equity
Hi, I would love to get some general insights into potential LevFin exits as well as the comparison between Private Credit/Direct Lending and funds that invest across the capital structure (KKR SIG/Apollo HVF). Hoping to get some more context into what private credit encompasses (is it mainly direct lending/what does the breakdown of different segments look like) and how to best determine what would be better suited for my skillset/interests while also being realistic. Lastly, does anyone know whether these firms tend to go on or off-cycle? Thanks!
TLDR: you could do anything from liquid credit with leveraged loans and HY bonds (very likely given levfin skillset but seats are limited), direct lending (very likely), opportunistic (less likely without prior credit/buyside investment experience), distressed (least likely unless you have a restructuring background), other specialty credit (also unlikely unless you have the relevant background).
Breaking it down in more detail, private credit would typically encompass the following:
Just for completeness, while you only mentioned private credit, I would suggest also looking at the public credit side which can be just as if not more lucrative:
On your last point, I believe credit firms typically offer off-cycle internships as they want someone who has previous IB/investing internships. Would assume the big MFs do have some summer analyst positions available, but this wouldn’t be suitable for someone looking for their first internship experience. From the firms’ perspective, it’d have to be an exceptional candidate.
This is incredibly helpful -- thanks so much! Definitely lots to think about. As a follow up to your point about direct lending and its viability as a long-term career option, is there anything that makes it more challenging than say PE for ex?
Thanks so much for the detailed post—super insightful.
I'm an incoming SA at a BB and hoping to join LevFin with the goal of eventually moving into credit investing. Had a few quick Qs based on your framework:
For context, I did a part-time RX internship during school and went through RX SA recruiting last year but didn’t land anything.
Would really appreciate any thoughts—thanks again.
Annoyingly, for whatever reason, the market views the credit skillset as less flexible than PE. In general, if you start a career in credit, it's likely that you will stay in credit for good whereas you have more optionality in PE to do other things (corp dev, HF, VC, and it's easier to shift to credit from PE than vice versa). I don't necessarily agree with this view because you have significantly more deal flow in credit vs. PE and probably have a better understanding of various sectors at a junior level (usually siloed by sector in PE from the very beginning). I believe being a generalist as a junior helps you develop more insights & perspective for all types of businesses and that is only beneficial as an investor. In fact, I was contacted by some headhunters for HFs (Citadel, Millennium) who mention there has actually been more of a preference towards candidates in credit because of this deal experience, so hopefully this shift in perspective continues. Regardless, there are very interesting jobs within credit on both private and public side that will allow you to make comfortable amount of $$$ for the amount of hours worked so even though the absolute compensation in PE is higher, my hypothesis is the $/hour is higher in credit (at least for me when I compare with my peers in PE, HF, and IB). Also boring disclaimer - credit has undergone a boom cycle for the last 4 years so this might not continue going forward.
In addition, there have been several posts that describes DL exits pretty well. In sum, I would say that credit is probably the exit everyone is looking for, but it might not be the right start for one's career unless you have a specific passion for credit.
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/credit/private-credit-exit-opportunities
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/credit/private-credit-exit-ops
This is great. Thank you.
Many thanks! May I ask that which sector would you choose if you had to start to recruit today?
Depends on your background but if you want to get into credit, then levfin or RX is the stepping stone that leads to one of the positions I mentioned above. If you mean choosing a specific sector, then I'd try not to be siloed and stay as a generalist as a junior.
Many thanks for your insights! May I ask which liquid credit basket do you prefer and why?
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