i'd wait til you're a 3rd year or an associate to rock out the hermes.

ralph lauren, not the tacky macy's polo ties, the ones that are just ralph lauren

also calvin klein

as long as the tie looks good and is not holographic/clashing, ur fine.

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Cornelius:
i'd wait til you're a 3rd year or an associate to rock out the hermes.

ralph lauren, not the tacky macy's polo ties, the ones that are just ralph lauren

also calvin klein

as long as the tie looks good and is not holographic/clashing, ur fine.

I'm not a fashion expert, but how in the world can people tell which brand you're wearing.........

 
NeverSurrender:
Hermes ties are quality, but conspicuously Hermes.

Some other brands with comparable quality that offer elegant designs: Kiton, Borrelli, Brioni, Bvlgari, Marinella.

There's no reason whatsoever an analyst needs to be spending $200+ on a tie (e.g. the Brioni, Kiton suggestions). I have a few nicer designer ties that are simple striped or solid ties. Other than that, I get most of my ties from J Crew, which are some of my favorites. They're all classically simple, well made and extremely well priced (especially if they're on sale). In fact, if I'm ever complimented on my tie, its usually one of the JCrew ones.

You don't need to spend $200+ on a tie to look good.

 
Marcus_Halberstram:
NeverSurrender:
Hermes ties are quality, but conspicuously Hermes.

Some other brands with comparable quality that offer elegant designs: Kiton, Borrelli, Brioni, Bvlgari, Marinella.

There's no reason whatsoever an analyst needs to be spending $200+ on a tie (e.g. the Brioni, Kiton suggestions). I have a few nicer designer ties that are simple striped or solid ties. Other than that, I get most of my ties from J Crew, which are some of my favorites. They're all classically simple, well made and extremely well priced (especially if they're on sale). In fact, if I'm ever complimented on my tie, its usually one of the JCrew ones.

You don't need to spend $200+ on a tie to look good.

This is true, however, I've been burned with Jos A Bank shirts to the point where I don't trust their ties.

 
NeverSurrender:
Hermes ties are quality, but conspicuously Hermes.

Some other brands with comparable quality that offer elegant designs: Kiton, Borrelli, Brioni, Bvlgari, Marinella.

quality? cmon man lets not rationalize conspicuous consumption. ties dont even touch the skin, quality is almost entirely irrelevant. Anything that doesnt start disintegrating rly quickly is sufficient quality.

Fuck brands just get whatever design you like, theyre all silk at the end of the day anyway.

Tierack ftw

 
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walkio:
No one said you do. But Hermes ties are beautiful and if you know your shiz you can tell the difference.

What exactly about it is so beautiful? Its one of 4 or five color background with tiny printed cartoons on them... sheep and wolves, bulls and bears, giraffes, sailboats...?

Don't be such a sucker. If you want a "beautiful" tie, as Anthony suggested get a seven fold tie. If you're ever in Italy you can find some REALLY good ties for very reasonable prices. The difference is you've likely never heard of the brand/maker of these ties, but they're FAAAR better than any of the above mentioned tie brands. Most of you tasteless nitwits probably aren't interested though, as no one can tell what brand it is and how much you paid for it by looking at the cheesy design.

Most Wall Street-types swear by Ferragamo/Hermes ties because they're distinctly Ferragamo/Hermes and its visible to anyone pretentious enough to notice how much they paid for it.

 
Marcus_Halberstram:
Most Wall Street-types swear by Ferragamo/Hermes ties because they're distinctly Ferragamo/Hermes and its visible to anyone pretentious enough to notice how much they paid for it.

Yes, so true!

 
Marcus_Halberstram:
If you're ever in Italy you can find some REALLY good ties for very reasonable prices. The difference is you've likely never heard of the brand/maker of these ties, but they're FAAAR better than any of the above mentioned tie brands. Most Wall Street-types swear by Ferragamo/Hermes ties because they're distinctly Ferragamo/Hermes and its visible to anyone pretentious enough to notice how much they paid for it.

This.

Really, if you know where to look in Milan, you can find amazing stuff at a fraction of the cost you seem willing to cough up.

 

At the analyst level you should be worried about your work, not spending 200 bucks on a tie. Hermes ties are silk printed ties. It is all marketing. They are not even high quality 7 fold ties.

Marcus is right. J Crew is fine. So is Banana. Spend 30-40 bucks (and that is high end) on a tie and you will be fine.

 
TNA:
At the analyst level you should be worried about your work, not spending 200 bucks on a tie. Hermes ties are silk printed ties. It is all marketing. They are not even high quality 7 fold ties.

Marcus is right. J Crew is fine. So is Banana. Spend 30-40 bucks (and that is high end) on a tie and you will be fine.

I can only agree with Marcus and TNA. 1) Do your stuff with 3000% quality and insight

2) Be diligent, be polite, be a team player

3) As an analyst you have not achieved anything in the corporate world yet. Your superiors may have. So don't give the impression you are Gordon Gekko by dressing like an MD without having earned your laurels. It just looks immature and won't give you the respect you want/are looking for. This comes from #1 and 2 above.

4) Buy decent (eventually conservative) clothes. No need to spend a fortune. If you wish to spend some bucks on your wardrobe go for quality, not for brand. Heed Marcus' advice.

5) btw. Brands are manytimes a way to simplify the task of looking for quality. Sometimes a good proxy, oftentimes only close, but only in appearance.

6) Less is more. Go for silk tie, uni color or simple stripes, decent colour/combination. That's it. No funky experiments (specially if client's are involved!). Heed Ilini's advice and have your girlfriend/friend (with good taste) help you choos or make suggestions.

7) Finally, buy only things you feel comfortable wearing. That way you are not distracted by any perception about what you are wearing (neither your own or your colleagues/clients)

 
hungaroe:
<span class=keyword_link><a href=/company/trilantic-north-america>TNA</a></span>:
At the analyst level you should be worried about your work, not spending 200 bucks on a tie. Hermes ties are silk printed ties. It is all marketing. They are not even high quality 7 fold ties.

Marcus is right. J Crew is fine. So is Banana. Spend 30-40 bucks (and that is high end) on a tie and you will be fine.

I can only agree with Marcus and TNA. 1) Do your stuff with 3000% quality and insight

2) Be diligent, be polite, be a team player

3) As an analyst you have not achieved anything in the corporate world yet. Your superiors may have. So don't give the impression you are Gordon Gekko by dressing like an MD without having earned your laurels. It just looks immature and won't give you the respect you want/are looking for. This comes from #1 and 2 above.

4) Buy decent (eventually conservative) clothes. No need to spend a fortune. If you wish to spend some bucks on your wardrobe go for quality, not for brand. Heed Marcus' advice.

5) btw. Brands are manytimes a way to simplify the task of looking for quality. Sometimes a good proxy, oftentimes only close, but only in appearance.

6) Less is more. Go for silk tie, uni color or simple stripes, decent colour/combination. That's it. No funky experiments (specially if client's are involved!). Heed Ilini's advice and have your girlfriend/friend (with good taste) help you choos or make suggestions.

7) Finally, buy only things you feel comfortable wearing. That way you are not distracted by any perception about what you are wearing (neither your own or your colleagues/clients)

This is very true. I think that many people are blinded by perception and not reality. The perception is that you have to have tie/shirt/suit combos that are as complex as nuclear physics. The reality is that most people in Finance dress simply and aren't interested in wearing ties/shirts that look like a disease or something off of a movie set.

 

ralph lauren ties are awful imho vineyard vines ties are too thin and don't knot well (from my experience)

I personally like brooks brothers ties

also, if there is a saks off fifth outlet near you, id recommend going there- good tie selection at significant discount

 

As a guy with an odd mix of red/brown hair, I usually shop for ties based on color first rather than brand. Female friends tell me I do best in fall colors like gold and red with a hint or two of brown.

So if I am feeling cheap, I will go to JC Penney and pick up something from typically Pierre Cardin or Stafford ($15-20). If it's an average day, I'll go to Macy's and pick up something from typically Tasso-Elba or DKNY ($25-30). If I'm feeling REALLY rich (IE: right after bonus season) and need to replace a tie, I'll go to the Men's Wearhouse and get a Jos. Abboud ($40-$50), mostly because it will last me for the next ten years, like everything else that they make.

More important than the BRAND of the tie is how it fits you. I get more compliments from coworkers on a $15 tie that my girlfriend picked out for me when I was shopping for interview ties at JCP back in college than anything else in my wardrobe. So if I wanted to spend a lot of extra money on ties, I'd first hire a fashion design major from NYU to go shopping at JCP or Macy's with me rather than go to the Thomas Pink store.

 

Anyone know what brand makes ties like this (that I can get in a store):

http://www.oliverbrown.org.uk/images/toothg.jpg http://www.oliverbrown.org.uk/images/pgb.jpg

I'm basically looking for the second design in the first color. The thing I like about them is that they look solid from far away, but there's an intricate diagonal check pattern when you see them up close.

 
chewingum:
Anyone know what brand makes ties like this (that I can get in a store):

http://www.oliverbrown.org.uk/images/toothg.jpg http://www.oliverbrown.org.uk/images/pgb.jpg

I'm basically looking for the second design in the first color. The thing I like about them is that they look solid from far away, but there's an intricate diagonal check pattern when you see them up close.

I'm sure you can find something that looks like that in the Men's section on the first floor at Macy's 34th Street.

Odd looking tie... can't resist going into troll mode:

HI. FRIENDLY BOFH HERE. I LIKE TO WEAR THAT KIND OF TIE TO EUROTRASH NIGHT AT THE LOCAL CLUB- ALONG WITH MY BLUE SEQUIN SHIRT AND HALF A BOTTLE OF COLOGNE. BUT IT'S GOING TO RAISE SOME EYEBROWS AT MOST NEW YORK FIRMS, SO JUST BE CAREFUL...

 

Charvet makes ties like that. Go check out the Charvet section at the Men's Store at Bergdorf, they're not cheap but a lot of the ties they make are the exact style of the second link you posted.

Hi, Eric Stratton, rush chairman, damn glad to meet you.
 

I like Vineyard Vines/Thomas Pink for the cartoony ties, and Brooks for classic, striped ties. I don't wear Thomas Pink or VV ties because it's the "banker/douche" thing to do, but because I actually like the cartoony design and can't really find it anywhere else. I could never envision paying $200 for a Hermes or Ferragamo tie, though I have spent $100 on a Thomas Pink tie.

I buy all my Brooks ties at a Brooks outlet store, where I can get three for $100. I agree that buying and wearing Thomas Pink/VV/Hermes/Ferragamo simply because it looks "banker" is ridiculous, but if you actually like the design and it's not out of control, why not?

Any tie really works for analysts -- no one will really give a shit, as long as you don't look like a total douche (i.e. flipping a Kiton tie around so everyone can see that you're wearing a Kiton -- this also applies on the other end of the spectrum, where wearing a $5 piece of shit tie is just unacceptable). No one will say anything if you wear a $30 tie from Macy's, a $100 T. Pink tie, or a $70 VV tie. If it looks good, you'll be fine.

 

Thanks for the Charvet rec, Otter. I'll check that out.

Illini - I'm actually trying to find a tie that looks like the one Leonardo wore on the plane in Inception (light gray with subtle thin lines going diagonally both ways). Hence it need not be work appropriate

 

I think ties are incredibly overrated. I've probably worn a tie no more than 10 times in my professional career. In fact, I don't think I've ever worn one outside of pitches as an analyst, and even some pitches were business casual. Unless you work for a company that requires business formal, you're best off getting a half dozen, basic ties and just rotating.

I've never purchased a tie before in my life and I own close to 50 of them. They seem to be the gift of choice in my family. If I had to choose, I'd say my Zegna ties are my favorites.

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90% of all my ties are from my last vacation in China and Vietnam. There you get some decent looking "Italian silk" ties for $ 1 each. Honestly, who cares about the brand. If it suits you well, take it. The good thing about the cheap ties is that you aren't fucked if you spill sauce down your tie.

 
ambition56:
how has noone suggested century 21/ filene's basement yet?
Century 21 is great if you do well in frayed ties or purple, neon orange, or any other color that gets left on the rack at other stores.

They offer a great value, but when a tie shows up at Century 21 marked down from $90 to $18, THERE'S USUALLY A REASON.

Still remember when I bought my first Tasso-Elba suit. It was "MADE IN KOREA." I had to call up all of my friends to let them know that I just bought my first suit made in a first-world country! Had it been the typical checkered green-and-brown suit replete with prior alterations for a Neanderthal that makes it to Century 21, though, I wouldn't have been making those phone calls. :D

A much safer bet is a reputable seller on Ebay or the Men's Wearhouse sale.

 

Macy's has a nice selection and you can get them for less than $30 on sale. I think among the better brands at Macys are Hilfiger, Nautica, Kenneth Cole. If you like the Hermes looks of animals, airplanes, etc. then Hilfiger started making similar ties. But of course if your'e trying to impress somoene who knows ties, he might be able to tell that it's not actually Hermes. Avoid the cheapest brands like Club Room, Alfani, etc. as well as some really flashy ties like ones made by Donald Trump.

Century 21 down by Wall Street also has a large selection (was there last week) of similar brands. They also carry Vineyard Vines ties for $40-50 I believe.

In the end, it comes down to choosing the nicer ties, knowing how to tie a tie, and how to coordinate your outfit. I got many compliments on a Geoffrey Beene tie I bought at Burlington Coat Factory for $10. It's really all about how you wear it. The amount of money you spend won't impress anyone. But always buy 100% silk, and see how the knot looks.

 
RWP:
my former boss always told me that you get treated by how you dress.

US$20 tie might be ok to wear as an intern but nothing more.....

you either don't wear a tie but if you do, it should be hermes, ferragamo, brioni, g. armani, and etc.

and yes you can tell the difference of the ties

You also either don't drive a car, but if you do, it should be Maserati, Ferrari, etc. Fuckin moron.

 

http://www.shopwiki.com/wiki/High+Quality+Ties

You mention tie brands, but I hear nothing about construction in your thread? I like Hermes ties. I do not consider them to be high end. They are silk screen printed ties. Nothing special.

Quality ties are silk. They are thick. They are 7 fold. They has a strong lining to keep them from puckering. The stitching does not pluck out.

Brands are just that, brands. Little names on a tie. You can buy according to brand or according to quality. Brands are easy, simple, require no thinking. Quality is about skill, knowing the product, being in touch. You choose.

 

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Wow. Not only are those the ugliest ties I've ever seen, but this was in their testimonials:

“A Knot Theory tie is like having an everlasting explosion on your chest… it’s devastatingly beautiful and obviously dangerous.” – Brian ‘Danger’ Vidovic

 

For the brand whores....just heard that hermes in fin. dist. is having a sale from sep 15-17, something that they keep on the real DL. You do have to go to the store prior to those dates to pick up the invite card. Ties, shoes etc. 40-50% off.

 
iBANKhard:
I vote that you wear whatever tie looks good. Nobody can tell what brand of tie you're wearing unless they literally walk up to you and flip your tie over.

Wear whatever you like / whatever looks good.

To the contrary, I can determine what tie someone is wearing from 10 feet away.

 
ricochetX:
thoughts on Turnbull & Asser shirts and ties for an analyst? What about oxxford and brioni suits?

Oxxford and Brioni = too mainstream. Your suit is no good unless you travel directly to Naples, find a tailor who does not speak a word of English, and spend a year's rent on a bespoke suit. Come on.

On a more serious note, despite the fact that Turnbull & Asser shirts are very nice and I'm sure are considered one of the top shirtmakers, their RTW shirts have an oddly large collar. Tried one them on a few times and the collar threw me off. Check Google Images if you don't believe me, it's strange.

Hi, Eric Stratton, rush chairman, damn glad to meet you.
 

I can't be arsed reading all the above posts and I can probably guess the responses anyway.

You're an analyst. As long as your tie doesn't have Mickey Mouse on it or other horrid shit like that then you're all good. Just got to Macey's and buy half a dozen ties of various colours that are either solid, checked or striped. Once you're client facing, then go all out if you like.

“I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are.” - Hicks
 

A few of the groups at my bank had everyone from analyst up wearing Ferragamo ties. Was a culture thing that had been around for a while. Agree that J.Crew ties are great and reasonably priced. Plus alot of them look very similar and have the same design more or less as ferragamo ones for a fraction of the price. Big fan of the outlets so you can get a a handful. Also agree nothing too flashy.

 
got_value:
A few of the groups at my bank had everyone from analyst up wearing Ferragamo ties. Was a culture thing that had been around for a while. Agree that J.Crew ties are great and reasonably priced. Plus alot of them look very similar and have the same design more or less as ferragamo ones for a fraction of the price. Big fan of the outlets so you can get a a handful. Also agree nothing too flashy.

Personally, I like Indochino. Never tried them, but they look great online.

 

The best jacket/ tie combo I've seen was worn by Jack Nicholson in" the departed" . The tiger stripe tie and the Italian jacket. I think jack picks and keeps his own wardrobe!

 

Since this thread was dug up from the depths, here is my contribution...

Check out The Tie Bar (http://www.thetiebar.com/). I recently had this place recommended so I grabbed a few ties. Was pleased with the ordering process, the customer service and the shipping.

I got a free tie from Charles Tyrwhitt when I bought some shirts from them a while back. I've received a ton of positive comments from people about that tie but I didn't like that it was a bit short when I went with a larger knot....do note that I'm a big guy...so I looked around a bit when I decided to add a few more to my closet. That's how I ran across the guys above...from some fashion or tie web forum.

Anyways, I actually think the ties from The Tie Bar are substantially better than the one from Charles Tyrwhitt...though I'm certainly no fashion expert. I feel like they are a bit heavier and thicker, so wear a little better and you can order them 'long' if you need to, which was perfect for me and my gut.

I also liked that they had a ton to choose from, which made choosing hard, but I felt like I had good options and ultimately ended up with some classic ties that are very functional and I felt as though I got a really good deal.

The disclaimer is, I've really only tried them on at my place and haven't worn them out...so I don't know if they will fetch as many compliments as the CT, but I suspect they will. That also means I don't know how they will hold up over time, but they seem pretty solid, especially given the price. Only time will tell.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 
megarex2002:

Drakes of London. Good width (2.5 - 2.75 inches) and relatively conservative for the most part. None of this 3.5 inch crap. Brioni, Borrelli, Zegna, Marinella etc are all good ties, but they're designed for middle-aged men with guts.

In any case, don't skimp. You can find all of these brands brand new on eBay for a fraction of retail.

maybe in europe, but in the US do NOT be the analyst/associate/intern in the office who wears a skinny tie (which 2.5-2.75 falls into). 3.5 is probably what you should be wearing (3 is the probably the thinnest you can get away with, believe hermes ties are 3 or 3 1/4)

 

I like Ferragamo and Hermes. They are very nice. I guess the only downside is you can tell if someone is wearing one.. so if you dont want people to know you're wearing a $200 tie, that could be a problem.

Ralph Lauren Black Label is also nice.

 

Could you elaborate a little bit more, please? I would really like it to be a more meaningful thread than "I like this, I like that...".

 

I second Thomas Pink.

Can't go wrong with Charvet as well...

My Brooks Brothers ties have all been of pretty poor quality, fraying, threads coming out. Anyone else experience this?

 

I'm a big fan of Brioni...although I think their ties today are somewhat dull compared to the great power ties they produced a couple of years ago. Zegna is great...but again...liked the older styles more. It seems today that ties are trending more towards floral/busy designs...more flash and detail...less "Power."

...Ferragamo...now that's a great tie. Today's ferragamos resemble yesterdays Hermes. Fantastic, timeless designs.

In general though, I like Brioni, Ferragamo, Canali, Zegna, and Talbotts (Best of Class).

 

I third Thomas Pink; Charvet is a favourite but can be expensive for a new BB analyst. I like the quality and feel of the Ferragamo and Hermes too.

When i started I just bought three Zegna ties for the argument of quality over quantity - they served me well and are a safe bet to start with before getting into the patterns associated with hermes etc.

BB ties I found of low quality. I'd be interested to know what types of patterns you guys find favourable? Also, in the more conservative banks what types (and patterns primarily) are off base?

 
fraser24gt:
Can you really get by with a VV tie? They all look a little too casual and fanciful (I guess that's the word I would use) to be appropriate in a business atmosphere. I bought a tie from Charles Tyrwhitt and like it very much. A little thick, but this is my first "expensive" tie so maybe that's common.

You aren't a model. Nobody gives a fuck what ties you wear except that occasional associate or VP who flips it over when you are modeling. Even then, you should only be ashamed if you are rocking Perry Ellis or some other Macy's brand.

VY ties are more than sufficient.

 

As long as you're not flaunting the tie around like it's something special, I think it's ok to wear them as a first year analyst. Think it's gotten more common over time to wear these as a first year. People should be focusing on your output, not what ties you're wearing.

Side note, I know one of the guys selling the Ferragamo ties in Midtown (gamoties99.com). They basically bought them in bulk from somewhere (maybe in Italy?) and are making a small margin off each one. I bought a couple myself.

 

From what I could tell (and from referencing the Ferragamo website) these ties were all from the fall/winter 2013-14 collection. So generally a very current collection, but I didn't see any of the summer ties that you'd find as new arrivals in Ferragamo shops today. But for the price I wouldn't have expected either...

 

If you don't purposely twist the tie around, who can even tell what brand it is? If you stray away from the gaudy unicorns/dolphins and stick with subdued solids/stripes, you'll be fine. I was recently gifted some striped Rubinacci and E. Marinella ones, which go for $300 retail, and no one at my office notices.

 

Just bought several more from these guys, GamoTies99, for Father's Day and graduation (for a couple professors I was close with at school).

Do you guys think ties are too impersonal of a gift? I used to think they were, but nice ones seem suitable - especially ties with patterns that connect with the receiver in some way.

 

Some nice ties. They look appropriate. They don't appear to scream out "I'm Salvatore f'ing Ferragamo" so I think you're okay. However if someone does ask about them and who makes them, and you nonchalantly mention it's Ferragamo, I think that would be impressive. Enjoy them!

 

None of the above. Hit up the boutiques. If you're in New York I highly recommend checking out a place called Seigo Neckwear.

I don't think there is anything wrong with wearing Ferragamo ties as an analyst. If anything I have heard more senior guys criticize analysts for dressing too poorly.

Can't speak to Analyst level, but at the Associate level one friend specifically told me that I should wear one of those ties because, in his words, it helps communicate that you've shifted out of a public sector mindset.

 

As an AN1, I wore mostly Charles Tywhitt which can be bought for like $25-30. And similar to cphbravo96, I also for some reason got a lot of complements on these.

As an AN2, Ferragamo, Drake's of London, Thomas Pink.

Hermes, for me personally, is still a little bit too flashy/MD-status. As GSElevator once said, "Hermes ties are like Jordans for white people." But to each his own

 

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From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

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