Q&A: COO & Head of Trading @ Systematic Quant Hedge Fund
Just started mentoring so thought this could be helpful.
Based in Australia
- 15+ years on the buy side
- Mix of Portfolio Manager and Head of Business / Executive experience
- Experience across a range of proprietary trading / hedge fund firms
- Broad global markets experience & technical knowledge
- Specialise in equities and futures trading, particularly Relative Value / StatArb / Delta Neutral
- Focus on Systematic / Semi Systematic and Quantitative approaches
- Deep experience applying AI / ML to production trading systems
Happy to answer appropriate questions and open to mentoring
How do you see the role of being a quant on the core team vs a pod?
It's the same function. Follow the revenue... better to be a quant in a pod that is performing well than a quant on on a core team that is struggling.
what HFs have aussie presence?
many prop shops do (optiver imc sig citsec akuna etc) but other that QRT can’t think of any HFs
More than you think. Jump, AQR and others also have presences here. Plus regional AU funds / firms
What are the 3 most important investor lessons/tips you have learnt or been taught?
BONUS: Even quantitative finance is more people-based than most will admit. Human connection and communication are important and overlooked tools. Often a mediocre employee who is easy to work with and can communicate what they’re doing properly and transparently is more valuable than an incredible resource who is opaque, difficult to manage and can’t articulate their process or output effectively.
hope these help
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how much do you think about stocks fundamentally?
Minimally. It's not my game and not my area of expertise. My career and strategies have earned increasingly quantitative and systematic specifically because I was never any good at picking stocks on fundamentals!
Have looked at using NLP to turn compile reports into a 'qualitative quantitative' score which measures long-term markers of fundamental quality as a factor (rather than short-term sentiment) with some success, but the time horizon to realise those fundamental values may be too long for the signals to be attractive to some investors.
Using fundamental info, data and analysis as an additional lens to purely statistical signals is an interesting area and potential point-of-difference. I think the 2 disciplines will continue to merge into one approach.
Thanks for doing this.
No problem at all.
Re AI, how do you think an entry level QR (less than 1yr on the job) can survive without getting outdone by AI? Worried because I don't have much experience yet and haven't had the time to develop differentiation.
I don't think AI is your competition. I think others who understand and can leverage and use AI to improve / expand their process are your competition. Don't get left behind.
Fully automated research is definitely possible and likely inevitable, but there still has to be a foundational market hypothesis, guard rails and qualifications to prevent overfitting / over-search, systems to qualify and manage the output as well as research and data hygiene standards.
Don't try to compete with the AI in analysing data etc (you can't), instead put the time and effort into understanding the entire research workflow, understanding how and when AI should be used and how it needs to be constrained and how to utilise that power as a tool. Take ownership of it, develop your understanding and harness the technology as a tool at your disposal instead of worrying about being outdone by it.
Thanks a lot for offering to do this!
I have a question on portfolio construction for systematic long/short equity, specifically around factor neutralization. At many HFs I’ve heard factor constraints can be extremely tight on common factors (Barra/Axioma etc.).
In your experience, how tight are these factor constraints typically in practice? For example, are factor exposures driven close to zero within very narrow tolerances, or is there some flexibility depending on the platform?
Related to that, how do you think about the trade-off between factor neutrality and allowing idiosyncratic alpha to come through? Is there a typical target for idiosyncratic variance that you aim? Or forced to by your platform?
Would love to hear how this is handled in real production environments.
Increasingly, these factor tolerances are getting tighter. The reason is 2-fold. The first is that the tighter you are on factor exposure, the more you can guarantee that the strategy returns are actually attributable to Alpha (rather than Beta / Factor exposure). The second is that (especially across a diversified multi-manager platform), even small factor exposures across many strategies can aggregate to significant risk at the firm level. These platforms want every strategy they add to the mix to be orthogonal to their existing alpha from a returns perspective, but also from a risk perspective. Different firms have different approaches and tolerances and levels of flexibility, but overall the key trend is the same.
In my career, factor neutrality as well as low correlation to broad market conditions (and competing benchmarks / existing approaches) has always been a key tenet and core focus. Eliminating beta and factor exposures create a more true and clean return profile which truly exhibits whether you are finding real edge or not.
That attitude is very common in RelVal, Delta Neutral, StatArb type worlds. However, many thematic / discretionary approaches will use factor exposure as a feature and a way to express their view and I actually have one systematic strategy which specifically targets / replicates a sorely underrepresented factor as the basis of a delta neutral global equities portfolio and that factor exposure is the thesis of the approach.
Not all exposure is bad and needs to be eliminated at all costs, there can be purposes and tolerances. The only bad exposures are unknown, unintended or unmanaged exposure, or exposures which are beta being dressed up as alpha.
At what point does tightening factor neutrality start to strip away real alpha, especially when alpha itself is often correlated with certain factors?
Thank you for doing this.
1. Can you speak to your different roles (COO, PM, etc) and how you moved from one to another?
Currently a junior PM, but open to taking on a more “central”/COO role in the longer term, so curious around how that works/feasibility.
2. Can you speak to breadth vs depth? Is having broad knowledge better, or does the industry tend to value specialists of niches?
I have a skill set and education background which gave me the potential to add value outside of a purely 'boxed in' / specialised role, and made a big effort throughout my career to look for and accept roles which gave me scope and ability to exercise initiative and build / create / expend beyond just specialising in a single strategy or approach. Generally, these roles have been 'dual' roles - market facing and trading driven, but with a business development / executive / operations element too. I've alway run portfolios / strategies, but felt like it was limiting to not also explore the scope of what else I could offer to a business. I took alot of pride in breadth of experience and understanding how an equities business works from top to tail.
That approach has worked for me, but it's not always the case and especially now for juniors, I think you need to be very aware that recruiters and HR teams who undertake hiring for big firms are much more comfortable with only hiring someone that has had the exact same job title as the open mandate previously. There's a preference for simplicity, specialisation and standardisation and there's increasingly few in the industry who are willing to think laterally or be willing to look for and find opportunities to add top talent who don't fit neatly into one little box.
As sad as it is, I think nowadays the much safer career bet is to choose one lane and stick to it. Operations roles don't get paid the way trading roles do. Middle office would kill to be front of house. If you're a PM, stick to that.
This is a very distinct change I've seen in many different industries since 2023 or so. Every open role is now "owned" by a recruiter, and that person will only pass your resume on if you had the exact same job title at a list of competing firms they have. So titles have become far more important than they used to be. The only exceptions are retained searches used to hire senior executives.
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