Deutsche Bank Team
Hello everyone,
This is my first time posting here, and I was hoping to get some insights from people familiar with Deutsche Bank’s Investment Banking division.
In your experience, which sector team within DB’s M&A group is considered the strongest or most reputable?
I’m particularly interested in understanding the team culture, deal flow, and overall exposure to transactions, but any perspective would be extremely helpful.
Thanks in advance!
Based on the most helpful WSO content, Deutsche Bank's M&A group has a strong reputation in certain sectors, particularly in Germany and the broader EMEA region. Here's a breakdown of insights:
Strongest Teams:
Deal Flow:
Team Culture:
Exposure to Transactions:
If you're considering DB, focusing on their strengths in EMEA and regulated industries could provide the best opportunities for growth and exposure. Let me know if you'd like more specific advice!
Sources: Top groups at BOFA London, What Field Are You And in What Broad Region?, What Field Are You And in What Broad Region?, Guide to LA IB Scene (2023 Edition), Thoughts on Barclays in 2020
In Europe? Probably industrials I'd say. But DB real strength is it's financing capability, with top notch Levfin Group and solid ECM business (especially alternatives financing/Equity-linked, aka spac, PIPE, Converts etc)
Yes London office
For sector teams Industrials and TMT, but as mentioned above if interested in a product group LevFin is quite strong
Need to be mentioned that the hours in the named teams are considerably worse than in other teams
If this is London office - DB gets slandered here a lot, but i would say they have some decent teams in Europe that are active with good deal flow
Don't have many friends at DB, but do think they're performing fine
Best teams are REGLL, Industrials and Levfin
Really REGL? Never saw actual interesting deals from that team but thank for the advice
Yep, are you doing a summer at DB?
Industrials particularly strong in Services, head of the team is a real rainmaker. The rest is meh
TMT Software is also solid. The director there is killing it.
Avoid healthcare at all costs. No deal flow, bad culture
So essentially either Industrail or TMT
Agree mostly with the posters above - but imo DB LevFin is slowly falling off. Too many departures, not the beast it used to be.
Why the departures
Pick LevFin / TMT / Industrials. Avoid Healthcare, Consumer and Healthcare again. No one from Healthcare has ever gone to a decent shop.
If you’re a summer intern - best to contact interns from last years cohort via LinkedIn, they are often willing to help and give a realistic description of the teams
DB US and DB Europe - two very different places.
Anyone got any insight on their Infra/Utilities team in London ?
Bump
Have heard they are solid from a friend that worked across in a deal
bump
Anyone know how their M&A product group team is?
Just in case it hasn’t been said enough avoid healthcare like the plague. KPMG has better exits. Most toxic group of seniors I’ve ever met in my entire life. You’d be better off Stifel or Northwestern Mutual
The two best teams by far are TMT and industrials with top deals as well as top exit opportunities. Hard work obvs as one would imagine but great culture, have been working with both of them on numerous deals
How's REGLL in your opinion
It’s one of their stronger teams with good exits, recently Warburg Pincus (Singapore office)
I’ve heard TMT has lost their main MD and have been struggling to close deals recently, it may not be as strong as it was before
I think its rather the opposite - they recruited some top seniors from Rothschild and JPM to lead their vertical SW space
Can someone explain the DB (legacy) and Numis situation? For example legacy DB Industrials had/has a great rep and the DB Numis UK team has a decent rep for Industrials. Have the two teams been merged or are they operating separately - keen to get a view on this if anyone has any insight
Work separately on different floors/buildings so not very integrated as do not work (rarely) on same deals ie juniors + seniors only work within DB / Numis deals and not cohesive (heard different culture across both as well so completely different vibe)
I know several people who currently work at Deutsche Numis, and the consistent feedback is that the franchise still operates quite separately from the rest of Deutsche Bank.
Historically, the Numis and wider DB teams were based in different buildings. Since last year, they have been brought together under one roof, but they remain on separate floors. The intention was presumably to improve integration between the teams and cultures, but from what I have heard, this has not really happened. Deutsche Numis still has a distinct culture and generally keeps different working patterns, including arriving earlier than the traditional DB teams.
Organisationally, Deutsche Numis is now positioned as the UK Investment Banking team. It does occasionally collaborate with DB’s broader EMEA industry teams, particularly on UK mandates. However, the dynamic is generally that the EMEA sector teams support Deutsche Numis on UK deals, rather than Deutsche Numis bankers being regularly staffed on the wider EMEA teams’ mandates.
The most important point for analysts is that Deutsche Numis is currently doing very little genuine M&A execution. UK M&A work is largely handled by Deutsche Bank’s EMEA M&A team. At Deutsche Numis, the junior experience is therefore much more heavily weighted towards corporate broking, UK ECM and listed-company advisory.
You may have some exposure to UK M&A mandates and collaborate with the relevant sector or M&A teams, but you are unlikely to own much of the modelling or the core execution mechanics. In practice, you may contribute company or market knowledge without getting the same end-to-end transaction experience that you would receive in a dedicated M&A or EMEA industry team.
There has also been significant attrition across the platform, particularly over the past six months. The UK FIG team has lost several junior and mid-level bankers, including a long-standing VP who moved into asset management, an analyst who lateralled elsewhere and an AS2 who went on a long-term sabbatical. There have also been associate departures from Business Services and Industrials.
The Consumer team experienced particularly heavy turnover last year, with much of the team leaving. More broadly, a number of stronger Deutsche Numis analysts have lateralled either into DB’s EMEA M&A team, other EMEA industry teams or external firms.
This has also affected senior leadership. Alex Ham left last year, and the head of UK M&A subsequently announced his departure.
Overall, I would not currently describe Deutsche Numis as one of the strongest places within DB for an analyst or summer analyst seeking traditional investment-banking execution experience. It may still be attractive for someone specifically interested in UK corporate broking, public markets, ECM and listed-company advisory. However, anyone primarily looking for modelling-heavy M&A experience and broader cross-border deal exposure would likely be better placed in DB’s EMEA M&A team or one of its main EMEA industry groups.
bump also looking to understand more about Numis vs Wider DB Teams - how different they are and if they are fully integrated.
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