Do clothing brands matter?
For interviews and SA jobs, does it matter where you get your suit?
I find that H&M has dress shirts and suits that fit me well and go for pretty cheap, do interviewers even care as long as the suit fits me properly?
Sure, buying a $150 suit and $40 dress shirt at H&M might be okay for an interview.... so long as the suit lasts longer than the interview. I'd ball park it at around 40 minutes.
Think you will last more than 40 minutes in an interview? Then invest in a better suit.
I'm talking about the easy iron shirts, they only go for about 15 and lasted me an entire summer and still perfectly fine. I'm not worried about how long it will last, only worried about whether or not people will judge based on brands.
Fit and appearance are all that matter. Most name brand clothing is crappy quality.
Clothing doesn't matter as long as it fits well and is not too excentric. Really nobody cares.
I don't like the black buttons on H&M shirts. Most dress shirts have white buttons.
not sure what you're looking at mine, mine are white
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These aren't Air Jordans we're talking about, put a little more money into a nicer suit, and it will LAST you longer. Your just putting a temporary fix on something that can be permanent with a little more money.
FYI- I hate majority of the designer brands, or whatever young wallstreet guys wear to impress people...Investing in quality however is something I believe in.
Designer Clothes: Are They That Important? (Originally Posted: 08/13/2010)
So basically, I don't like spending that much on clothes and therefore buying designer clothing for the sake of having the brand name has never been that appealing to me. I was wondering, and this doesn't include just wall street but other business careers as well, how important is the brand name/price one pays for clothes in terms of advancement, how one is perceived, etc.? Don't get me wrong, I don't buy absolute crap clothes either, but if I buy moderately priced stuff that fits well/has nice colors is that still acceptable, or will the label still make a big difference? I especially am confused because half the time, I can't even tell how expensive someone's clothes are when they are unbranded, but are there lots of people that can discern things like this just from appearance?
thanks
considering I'm still in school, I would rather have multiple pairs of cheap suits than one or two expensive ones. When I start getting paid, maybe i'll invest in a high quality suit
I'd rather have one or two decent suits that I wear constantly than a bunch of cheap ones. I made it through a summer many years ago with only 2 suits in a business formal internship. Also, most jobs are biz casual now.
University of Phoenix...graduated with mad prestige.
I've never found that anyone looks down on an analyst for not wearing name brand clothing...
My three main brands are: Perry Ellis, Calvin Klein, and Express. The stuff is always on sale at Macys and coupons bring the price down even more. At your level you should be concerned with quality of work not price of your daily couture. If you are going to drop coin do it on the dress shoes. Shoes will tell more of a person then thread count.
You can spend you whole career wearing clothes from Brooks Brothers.
Much better than the Express/Perry Ellis garbage you buy in department stores.
It is more important for the clothing to fit well and look good on you (ironed, matching, stain-free, etc) than it is for you to spend your paycheck buying a button down and tie. Brooks Brothers, Nordstrom (their semi-annual sales) and Jos A Bank are all great for IB and don't cost a ton.
Check out this article for more on the wardrobe: http://www.bankonbanking.com/2009/06/18/clothes-make-the-man%E2%80%A6an…
no one really cares about you at the analyst level but if it makes you feel happy buy it. you derserve it
Why are you asking a question if you already, apparently, have the answer?
Does brand matter when it comes to buying clothes for work? (Originally Posted: 12/31/2013)
So I learned that the most important thing is to get clothes that fit.
Well do employers even care what brand of clothes I'm wearing. I don't mind updating my wardrobe but I rather use that money on IDK something else.
Um because I don't?
Are you looking to recruit for analyst-level roles? I think that so long as you look good, you're fine, if anything you want to avoid brands that are too flashy/expensive.
Only if they are Gucci 1953 Horsebit Loafers, otherwise no.
It is pretty standard nowadays to put whatever brand suit you are wearing to the interview on your resume so they know whether to ding you or not. Much easier than checking the tags on everyone's clothing.
+1 I'd go as far as to put the brand of each article of your clothing
In all seriousness, just buy clothes that fit well and aren't from the street vendors and you'll be alright.
No idea where you work but on the buyside you are required to wear all clothing inside out so that people can see the labels and/or intricate hand stitching on your bespoke threads.
^ This haha
I think how you look ultimately does help in your career, especially come bonus round.
Saying that, you can still look very good and presentable in non-designer gear.
My advice, depending on what type of institution you work at, and your level, you should buy the most expensive clothes you can afford (if that's Zegna then so be it, otherwise whatever is best) - trust me most people don't spend as much as they should and look like a laughing stock at client meetings as a result!
@happygolucky84: Assuming you're not in a heavy client-interfacing finance role though, then what's your opinion, i.e. S&T?
@TraderDaily, for traders I tend to see they mostly sport nice expensive suits, so again if you're in that line, try to keep up with your colleagues (if you're junior maybe don't put too much effort in the uber exp cufflinks/ ties/ bespoke shirts, Thomas Pink shirts/ Eton will do if you get them around where you live). My point is that what you wear can impact on a lot of things (some subtle things, like all the Managers/ MDs etc remembering your name and being more friendly with you because of the dress sense and maybe because it's similar to their style too). For Sales, I'm not too sure, I guess they're a bit more relaxed. I would always err on the side of smart rather than relaxed as it never gives a good impression being too relaxed looking (except on dress down days - and on these days you have to be careful too!)
I completely agree with you,But now a days people are more brand conscious.
What brand should I wear? [important] (Originally Posted: 08/10/2007)
We've discussed about what suit, shoes, tie, shirt we should probably wear to the interview, but i'm very concerned about the type of underwear that I should wear to the interview. I'm pretty concerned since I'll be interviewing with GS and I really need to get that job.
Youre the same guy who was asking whether learning golf would help you break into IB. I'll tell you something, save the $$ you wouldve spent in some classes and get a decent suit. H&M suits are probably not even wool.
You haven't even started college. Worry when you get to recruiting time, and when you do, get a proper suit and decent shoes.
I'm starting in a couple of months and i'm shopping for shit, that's why im asking. Can you explain what's wrong with H&M besides quality? I already own a H&M suit, and it has lasted me almost 2 years and still going so I am not worried about quality.
Don't Wear Any, They'll Be Expecting That !!
This still doesn't change the fact that you're turning into the next AspiringMonkey.
Dolce and Gabbana
Retail price will cost you a little over 200 dollars, but it is a worthy investment.
If you dare wear Hanes to the GS interview, you're clearly Middle Market material.
how could you even go brand name. You need to get them custom made. They will cost you around $500, but we both know thats the cost of getting into GS
I second the opinion to go commando. If you're real GS material, you don't need underwear to hide behind. Hell, if you're real GS material, you don't need a suit either. Let them see your Adonis-like physique and marvel (watch out, I hear those pesky HR interviewers can get handsy though...)
i would go with some of those new-fangled boxer briefs made out of spandexy lyrca material. very sophisticated.
2xist
just wear your chaps.
no, i want good name brands
In these markets best be risk averse; make sure you wear a variety of underwear to the interview.
nvm
well you want to be well versed in the various products available in the market so you'll want to try some boxers, briefs, boxer briefs, and then you dont want them to think you can only handle vanilla so try some thongs for some experience with exotics
"underwear "?? wtf
If you really want the job, you are going to have to get Armani, D&G, and Hermes to jointly design and produce bespoke underwear for you, made of 95% silk and 5% baby panda fur. They must also include all of their tags on the OUTSIDE of the underwear to make the credentials clearly visible. Wear this over your trousers to show your interviewers right out of the gate that you can swing with the big boys, have excellent taste, and can obtain top clients, convincing them to work together. This is basic stuff for a GS interview, without at least this much effort they won't even acknowledge your presence.
Judging people based on their attire. (Originally Posted: 08/13/2014)
So I live in NYC and my friends and I go to battery park often (where Goldman Sachs is located), and very often we'll catch the afternoon rush of people leaving GS and we have a game on guessing what position someone is based on what they're wearing, do you think someones sense of style accurately portrays their position?
Also, for those saying i should get a decent suit, what are examples of decent suits? What brands?
Listen (or read, in this case), These H&M suits, how often do you use them? If you were to use them on a daily basis, they'd probably be ruined. Check what its made of, if it's a blend of polyester, then you have your answer. Ever seen a guy wearing a suit with extensive creases? Probably polyester blends. Nothing wrong with the brand itself, but the quality. Keep in mind that you're aiming at a job where how you present yourself is of utmost importance. Of course, it's your money and you can do what you want. IF you really can't afford to buy a $300+ suit, then I suggest you go to Century21 (c21stores.com) or wait for other sales. You can get a Ralph Lauren (green label, usually ~200 USD), hell, I think I saw sow Perry Ellis wool suits for about ~150. You will do just fine - everything is much better than a polyester blend you want to buy. Fits may vary by brand / style, so try to get one in person.
If you have already bought a suit, then just keep using it. When you get an offer you'll have a chance of getting (an)other suit(s).
What about dress shirts? And i mainly plan on using cheap suit for interviews and any on campus recruiting events. If i did get a SA internship, i would use that paycheck to buy a better suit.
This is a retarded post OP.
It's probably more accurate to judge them based on what time they're leaving.
Maybe saying "guessing who they are" rather than "judging" would have been better. Such as, "check out the guy in the $5k custom pinstriped suit. Must be a baller banker." "Look at the guy with the pocket protector, too short pants and thick glasses. He must be a quant." "Check out the dude in the purple sharkskin suit, hat and feather boa. He must be Lloyd's pimp." "Check out the pale, slightly overweight guy with dark circles under his eyes that looks like he just stopped crying. He's an analyst. And he's just getting coffee and going back to work."
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So you go stalk people to admire their clothing? You are creepy as fuck, Sandusky.
I'll be honest, I found myself doing this in my banks cafeteria.
However, shits hard. I know MDs wearing pleated khakis and driving shoes to work every day. The easy one though is "Hot girl in slightly inappropriate business casual = HR".
Awesome. So true.
What hypocrites most members of this sub-forum judge people on their attire all the time, and believe that one's position dictates what they can wear. Look through the archive for how many ad hominem logical fallacies members make toward people inquiring about cufflinks, braces, and pocket squares for entry level positions saying those are reserved for directors and ****.
There are even those that say that more junior members should intentionally dress worse and intentionally wear stuff of less quality and cost to blend in like sheep.
People on this forum will judge you by the brand of your tie, wear Hermes too early, and all hell breaks loose.
cool thanks
1.) Walk into Jos A. Bank, go to the year-round buy 4 shitty suits for the price of 1 okay suit sale 2.) Take ONE of these suits (fingers crossed you bought a navy/charcoal one) to a good tailor. Fork in $100-$150 to make sure that the suit fits extremely well so that nobody can tell that you bought it off the rack at Jos A. Bank 3.) Go to Banana Republic (If you skip this step and buy at Jos A. Bank, your sleeve lengths will be different) and buy 1 white and 1 light blue slim fit dress shirt. These are like $30-40 ea. 4.) Go to your interview with your nicely tailored suit and nail it. Hopefully you get the job and can pay to get the millions of other suits you bought for the price of 1 tailored later on. Then repeat step 3 with different colors
Yes. They value your choice of clothing higher than your GPA.
I'd advise getting a custom suit / shirt combo from somewhere like Maxwells. In my experience, they tailor fairly well, the suits are not as expensive (good work horse suits for entry level bankers who haven't received their first bonus yet) and if you get extra pants it's economical in the long run.
I think most people will tell you: because we are sitting all the time the first thing to get worn out is the pants.
No one is doing a tie flip in the interview. But you need to feel comfortable and confident in your clothes and not let it be a distraction.
I'd say just look professional as per your budget. Don't come into an interview looking like a trust fund baby even if you are. Nobody wants to see a 19 year old with LV or Hermes belt, it's just too loud.
You can get phenomenal deals at outlets like Saks Off 5th and Nordstrom Rack.
As long as its pure wool and fairly traditional (i.e. none of thos skinny lapels from shops like H&M) and you take it to a tailor to get it properly fitted then go as cheap as you want
go to an outlet if you want quality a bit better than H&M. Zara and H&M are very disposable in my eyes. Brooks Brothers or any of the mentioned above have good deals
Tom Ford
I have found some good shirts at the Brooks Brothers outlet stores. You can get 3 for $99. I have gone with the simple whites and blues and they fit great. Just make sure to try them on
Stuntin' on these haters.
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