Impact of Brexit in London recruitment

Now that it is clear that the UK will leave the EU in January, what is your perspective on recruitment in London for European citizens? Do you guys think banks will move to Frankfurt/Paris to avoid dealing with new immigration laws, or that they will stay in London and hire more British kids? I am asking as an EU citizen hoping to apply for SA 2021.

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DonCanary33, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Bump. Interested in knowing how this affects US citizens FT recruiting at BB in London

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ALondonMonkey, what's your opinion? Comment below:

It's very tough to recruit as a US citizen to London unless you're at a UK uni / on a exchange year.

Brexit won't make it any easier nor difficult. The visa process is follows: £50 fee for the bank and 30 mins time for someone from HR. BoJo has actually said he'll make it easier for talented people to come into London. Let's see..

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jackdonaghy26, what's your opinion? Comment below:

The US citizens studying in UK unis have had no issues but no idea about those currently in America trying to recruit internationally.

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justhereforthecraic, what's your opinion? Comment below:

If Brexit happens on Jan 31, I am not sure that we will have immediate changes on the visa process.

Correct me if I am wrong...

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googleit, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Probably not immediately, but it will change according to the Brexit deal no?

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JustAnotherBoringFinanceGuy, what's your opinion? Comment below:

No changes until at least end of 2020 (with potential extension to 2022). After that, it will depend on what the Government decides (and what is agreed with the EU as well).

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My Name is Jeff, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Can guarantee, if you're from a major country (US/India/China/CA-AUS-NZ/Brazil), you'll have a much easier time at obtaining the immigration visa. BoJo will have to loosen up immigration policy to get a favourable trade deal with either of those nations, especially India and China which have been clamouring for that for so long. That being said, language skills will be a hurdle for those two countries, since candidates don't usually have stellar English (if they do, they might make it), or they otherwise don't know a European language, unlike candidates from say Mexico or Brazil or Africa. Americans from top schools with at least one language proficiency are going to have an easier time. Order of importance -> German>Italian~French>Spanish (solely from personal observation)

I don't see London shifting away as the centre for IBD, and most PE firms have already carried out passporting. Securities trading won't be affected as much either, since most of it is algorithmic, and passporting has been carried out. Boutique firms without a European presence will have a signficantly difficult time, and rightfully deserved since they had three fucking years to do that. So yeah, people will still live in London, although European bankers may prefer to stick to their home turfs.

That being said, I went to my girlfriend's hometown near Koln-Dusseldorf, and her maternal place near Munich, and both places were fucking boring compared to London. The only reason we may not continue in London is because she is an NHS resident, and under Boris Johnson, the NHS is going to be thoroughly fucked more and more (it is already fucked - imagine 5 more years of Tory cuts).

EDIT:- For OP (EU citizen), SA should be no problem, but getting FT will be harder, since boutiques will no longer prefer EU kids, and WILL 100% choose a British kid over you, all things equal.

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Hardo from Germany, what's your opinion? Comment below:

The NHS should be privatized

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My Name is Jeff, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Yeah, fuck off Goebbels

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googleit, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Will FT be harder for BB too or just EB?

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neink, what's your opinion? Comment below:
My Name is Jeff:
Can guarantee, if you're from a major country (US/India/China/CA-AUS-NZ/Brazil), you'll have a much easier time at obtaining the immigration visa. BoJo will have to loosen up immigration policy to get a favourable trade deal with either of those nations, especially India and China which have been clamouring for that for so long. That being said, language skills will be a hurdle for those two countries, since candidates don't usually have stellar English (if they do, they might make it), or they otherwise don't know a European language, unlike candidates from say Mexico or Brazil or Africa. Americans from top schools with at least one language proficiency are going to have an easier time. Order of importance -> German>Italian~French>Spanish (solely from personal observation)

I don't see London shifting away as the centre for IBD, and most PE firms have already carried out passporting. Securities trading won't be affected as much either, since most of it is algorithmic, and passporting has been carried out. Boutique firms without a European presence will have a signficantly difficult time, and rightfully deserved since they had three fucking years to do that. So yeah, people will still live in London, although European bankers may prefer to stick to their home turfs.

That being said, I went to my girlfriend's hometown near Koln-Dusseldorf, and her maternal place near Munich, and both places were fucking boring compared to London. The only reason we may not continue in London is because she is an NHS resident, and under Boris Johnson, the NHS is going to be thoroughly fucked more and more (it is already fucked - imagine 5 more years of Tory cuts).

EDIT:- For OP (EU citizen), SA should be no problem, but getting FT will be harder, since boutiques will no longer prefer EU kids, and WILL 100% choose a British kid over you, all things equal.

The irony of this post is that it's the exact opposite of what Johnson has campaigned for. Tories are now the party of the working class. The working class wants less immigration.

The other big issue was NHS. Tories are now the party of spending for healthcare.

On topic, London will be fine. There was some movement to Frankfurt, but the so called ''exodus'' never materialized. Much like the alleged economic collapse, market crash and all the doom-saying predictions by liberal economists.

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My Name is Jeff, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Through time, as London loses more of its pan-European appeal and international character, London will lose its appeal to banking folks also.

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Should be good tbh, in medium term once the uncertainty is resolved there will be increased activity. From my experience there are quite a lot of deals 'in the pipeline' that are awaiting the outcome...

don't know how that really impacts recruiting though. My assumption would be little change from status quo for now.

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Yankee Doodle, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I'd imagine that back-office roles will face the most disruption, as those have been historically outsourced to Eastern Europe and Ireland.

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Ovechkin08, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Even before Brexit banks had started the process of moving jobs out of London, either to cheaper cities in the UK (see DB moving ER jobs to Birmingham) or to Dublin. London has become a victim of its own success with the cost of living requiring higher and higher wages to attract and retain candidates. I expect this trend to continue regardless of what immigration policies the UK adopts post Brexit. In terms of front-office roles I expect London will remain the hub of Europe and I would expect little to no impact on the ability to hire skilled workers from the EU. The anti-immigrant sentiment in the UK is not directed at high earning foreign bankers, it is directed at low-wage immigrants from Eastern Europe who are willing to work for below minimum wage salaries in low-end retail and factory jobs. The brickie in Sunderland who has seen construction wages depressed by cheap labour from Poland has no clue and couldn't care less about who some investment bank chooses to hire in London (which is basically a foreign country to most people in the rest of the UK).

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yourPM, what's your opinion? Comment below:

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