Is it Really That Bad At Dartmouth?
I am a highschool student who did ED to Dartmouth.
I see a lot of recent users commenting on how Dartmouth is nepo central and how hard it is to break without connections. Many good Wintership internships are gone. Dartmouth is not seen in the same light as other Ivies or similar targets (ex. Northwestern, Notre Dame, Uchicago etc.) these days.
Dartmouth is in the middle of nowhere, meaning it is harder to secure internships geographically compared to a place like Columbia.
Many individuals now regard Dartmouth as a semi-target.
Yes, Dartmouth gives a huge leg-up in recruiting compared to going to a non-target, but considering how competitive it is compared to other schools that are allegedly easier to get in but place better, is it really worth it?
As a non-nepo/non-diverse student with lots of time left before recruiting what can I do to mitigate all these problems? Is it really bad (for recruiting) as how some students say it is?
Forget about breaking into IB, you need to worry about breaking into Dartmouth—it's not like you have much of a choice if they accept you ED anyway and people are so melodramatic on here about cHiCaGo iS iNfIniTeLy BeTteR tHaN dArTmOuTh
yeah man ur better off at UNC chapel hill, all you gotta do is get in a car crash and make UNC FOR CAR CRASH VICTIMS CLUB and before you know it Wells will be calling.
Uh is this referencing something lol? What happened
Who tf is saying Dartmouth is a semi target? Lmao
every ivy is nepo central. do you think it’s better at harvard or yale? it’s not.
I personally have had fantastic encounters with Dartmouth (current and past students).
You'll be more than fine.
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If you can’t make it coming out of Dartmouth that’s on you
Honestly as a non-diversity/non-nepo/middle class ORM student at a target school, the rhetoric needs to stop with kids complaining about struggling to break in. If you're at a semi-target or non-target, sure it's gonna be hard but nepotism exists everywhere and is enhanced at the top places. However, with the platform these top targets provide you, there's honestly no excuse to not get an offer. Very few kids at a target who get good grades, are involved in the right clubs and have an internship or 2 under their belt strike out during recruiting. If you can't do that and leverage an excellent school's network to get an offer, a large portion of the blame goes to you.
TLDR; if you are at a top school, you will get an offer if you work hard enough for it – nepotism exists at a higher level at top schools, you just have to out-grind it.
If you don't break into IB from an Ivy, it won't be your school's fault. And most of the high school and college kids on this forum know about as much as you. Go to Dartmouth if you get in (you obviously wanted to go there if you applied ED), get good grades, network with Dartmouth alumni, study your technicals, and have fun. You'll be fine. Thousands of kids would love to go to Dartmouth - including you before you let a bunch of anonymous 17 year old kids freak you out on the internet.
At least at the MBA level, Tuckies really look after their own. They're known to have arguably the best alumni network outside of HSW programs.
Your level of spoon-feeding is a little lower at Dartmouth than Harvard, but it's still spoon-feeding.
Comparatively, non-Ivy targets feel like they're getting kicked in the teeth. Get in where you fit in...
If you're stupid enough to believe that about Dartmouth, I don't think you got what it takes to get in regardless. Look at the landscape - you think it's any different at any other Ivy? Also, being surrounded by nepos is a GREAT opportunity for you.
The post complaining about Dartmouth had a lot of supporters who agreed and lots of upvotes
Too many people on here don't block out the noise. You'll be just fine at Dartmouth.
With the Dartmouth brand you can work ANYWHERE. If you want to truly stand out, start modeling 2nd semester of this year and get an banking/research internship before you start college. Another cheat code would be learn your technicals right when you get to college, tell people you're planning to graduate in 3 years, and get an internship at a low/mid tier BB for sophomore summer (fooling them into thinking you would grad in 3 years and join them after) and re-recruit. You can get Citadel out of school if u want.
I have to go to military service so I don’t believe I can
Also what if you get blacklisted for pulling a stunt like that or ppl suspect your lying?
Current Dartmouth student here. As mentioned by many, there are a ton of nepo based offers here but the same goes for every other Ivy and relevant target school. You mention UChicago, well there are just as many well-connected boarding/prep school kids there as Dartmouth so good luck with that.
That being said, while sophomore summer at Dartmouth is an amazing time spent with friends, the internships that students pursuit during their “off” semesters (Soph spring/Junior Fall mostly) are definitely lower in quality because most name brand shops would only open internships for the summer. It doesn’t impact junior SA recruiting obviously, but just something to think about.
Yea you’re cooked. Dartmouth is ass unless your dad is a big shot on Wall Street - you’ll be lucky if you can place anywhere other than a MM in Toronto…
Smh man people are retarded. It’s an Ivy League. Non-nepos break into some of the best seats in the world from worse schools. You blow out, it’s 100% on you.
Breaking into has been hard this last year not because of anyone’s fault. It is the economy and hopefully when you are ready, it will be better.
not at all; probs one of the strongest alum networks tbh (in terms of response rate)
Dartmouth alum ; I’ll give you a bit of a middle ground answer than others here.
I was at Dartmouth at a bit of a weird time for the economy, but it seemed like the vast vast majority of banking kids were diversity .
Though I will also admit , I came from an area where IB etc was not a thing growing up, so I did not do the right clubs/ finance resume you need to build early enough.
I do think though that none of this is a Dartmouth problem by the way — these jobs are hard to get. When you go on forums like this, it can seem like it’s super easy to get banking jobs , but it’s not. You’re not going to go anywhere and get handed out everything , but you’re also not going to be stoped from getting jobs at Dartmouth without the nepotism stuff.
For what it’s worth: life is about so much more than just your first job, and Dartmouth is a phenomenal brand and network to have throughout your career and life. It was a really incredible experience that I am so grateful to have.
If you get in you should prob go, but don’t think it’s a free ticket to Goldman TMT or that you’re gonna be blocked out of everything because of nepotism (neither are true lol).
high five! the jobs being hard to get comment hits close to home, no matter what target school it is.
i went to georgetown and also came from a v similar background where i did not know what ib was before college. accordingly, i did not know how to properly build my resume for the roles and it was v bad for me as a white/asian male, as i got grilled to the bone with technicals.
however, after many embarrassing interviews, i started to get the hang of technicals and i eventually landed a great role at a eb/bb.
my sis goes to dartmouth and i gotta say that it's an awesome school!
at the end of the day, regardless of the complaints and issues of both institutions (of which all the faults in the world can be found), we both loved our time at our schools and we are grateful to the universe that it allowed us to break the cycle of intergenerational poverty that ran deep in our family for so long.
lmao enjoy ur senior year buddy. Try to get ur freak on, worry less ab IB Dartmouth is very good you'll be fine
"Is it Really That Bad At Dartmouth?"
No. Most of what you hear that may give this impression is either kids who don't go to Dartmouth who are unaware of how Dartmouth recruiting works OR it is people just venting.
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