J.P. Morgan - Online Numerical Reasoning test (London, UK)
Hi everyone,
I just received an email to complete an online numerical reasoning test for J.P. Morgan after applying to their London, UK office.
a) Is everyone automatically invited to do this test or has the application pool been given a first cut already?
b) What % of people do they cut with this?
c) Any advice/resources? Has anyone done JPM's test?
I am from North America, so I have never had to do anything like this before. Any advice is appreciated!
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1) Depends on bank
2) 90%
c) SHL
Don't be a little bitch, these are easy.
SHL tests are absurdly simple.
That said practise will easily put you in the top 1%. Underestimate these are your peril.
At a company I worked for though, the recent grads were talking about their marks on the numeracy, the marks ranged from 40 to 73, I was sitting on 97, so subtracted 30 from my answer to avoid being the socially awkward penguin.
Read from that what you will, that either im some arrogant jumpstart, or I know how t do these tests really really well.
trazer985, you're not alone, now prop trading shop tests are different beast.
the online numeracy ones are easy, the on hte phone ones are easy when written on a screen, but nasty on the phone. Practise with someone reading problems back to you over the phone for these, it really is very very different.
a) Yes
b) Not much, just people who can't be bothered to complete them
c) They are not hard. However if you want to practice just apply to as many banks as you can (London office) and practice with the tests of the banks you don't care about since they are all the same
If it's SHL they're easy going. PSL is a bit harder. Just my feeling. Didn't apply at JPM so don't know which one they're using. Follow the advice of Maximus if you don't feel prepped well. Further I recommend:
http://www.shldirect.com/practice_tests.html http://www.kent.ac.uk/careers/psychotests.htm http://www.aptigenius.com/ http://www.practiceaptitudetests.com/
This should do the trick. Just get a grasp on timing.
Btw. how come that you can apply the regular way? German office is not hiring this year besides giving some former interns full time offers (started a pretty strict rule: no intern, not eligible to apply).
Everyone gets invited to do them this year. They are SHL tests and very easy. If you get to AC, you will have to repeat the test (20 in 20).
I applied to J.P. Morgan London, UK office as well for an analyst summer intern. Numerical test is fairly easy but I did not manage to complete the whole test in time. I missed 3 questions, but had all other questions answered correctly I think. Never practiced before, I wanted to be really sure about the answers. Only advise I can give you is to watch your time! I think practice is not necessary as it is about logical reasoning and knowing high school math. This is difficult to improve by doing more tests. You just need some luck. Given the fact that they don't give that many offers to people who use the online application and I did not complete the numerical test, I guess I am doomed
Completely disagree. You do improve a lot doing more tests, not by learning answers, but by gaining time. The logic is always the same, so while it might take you 10s the first and second time, it takes 0.1 after doing 10 tests. I started out missing 3-4 questions like you and in the last tests I always have about 1-2 minutes to spare and I'm sure about all the answers. You shouldn't have any problems if you answered 17 correctly, but I'd rather answer all of them, it's not that much extra work.
I agree with you that by practicing there could be a gain in time. However, the logic is never the same. Every problem is different and by practicing you will become more comfortable by the way of asking and maybe more self-confident. There might always be a question that you don't completely understand and takes more time to solve correctly compared to practice test questions. If you have solved similar problems before, ofcourse it takes less time. I don't assume all numerical tests are more or less the same, are they?
With SHL's, sometimes if you're lucky, the practice questions for one firm are the real questions for another.
Where can you find a firm's practice tests?
RBS talentQ is a bitch.
If you struggle you will definitely benefit from practicing, SHL tests suck.
To improve your numerical ability, try the game or test on calculationrankings.co
How best to prepare for verbal and numerical reasoning tests (Originally Posted: 10/14/2012)
I was wondering whether the GMAT quantitative practice tests would be a more relevant way to practice for the numerical reasoning test? I've looked through some numerical reasoning texts and it seems that their material is quite rudimentary and much easier than what I might be encountering in numerical tests from banks soon. Is the GMAT quantitative section more helpful? If not, what else would be?
Also, I found that most verbal reasoning tests aren't related to the banking field but are quite generic. Any place where I could get more banking related verbal reasoning tests to practice?
I'm using the following books to revise:
1) Practice Psychometric Tests by Andrea Shavick
2) How to Pass Numeracy Tests by Harry Tolley and Ken Thomas
3) How to Master Psychometric Tests by Mark Parkinson
Any comments on their usefulness?
Thanks in advance!
Can't comment on the books - not really my style - but for the tests I did anyway there was a lot of stuff from the Integrated Reasoning part of the GMAT so I would give that a look. If you just look at SHL in general you should be fine, theres a lot of free practice tests floating around. The tests aren't really that hard.
S&T ones on the hand were completely different, a good bit harder and different at each place.
Numerical Reasoning Tests - with calculator? (Originally Posted: 03/27/2014)
Right now I am practicing for online numerical reasoning tests and it is said in the practice test site that calculators are permitted. If I do the real test at home then obviously I can use a calculator but I know that some banks ask to redo the test before/after the interview. Could it be possible that your are not allowed to use calculator if you do the test at office?
you are most definitely not allowed to use a calculator if they give you a test during an interview
these things really aren't a big deal. banks will sit you in a room with the other candidates that day, and leave you to it, you could cheat if you really wanted by just chatting to guys in the room. they don't seem to take it too seriously. i did have some people (more than one occasion, more than one bank) bring up my high scores (self high-five), but it's not going to swing a vote for you in your favour much.
Is this for the UK? Yes, you are definitely allowed a calculator in the retake at the office (assuming you mean the SHL ones?). As the purpose of these is to verify your score, they would want to mimic the conditions.
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