Moelis LA vs Allen vs Centerview NY vs Greenhill
I have SA offers at 2 of 4 of these banks, and am a student at a target school. How would you rank these banks for the SA experience?
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by Greenhill, are you referring to Greenhill NY?
I don't have any input on rankings, but I wanted to say congrats. Any offers from these would be amazing opportunities. Congrats!
Yes, Greenhill NY. Trying to figure out best SA experience, prestige, conversion to FT, too.
lucky bastard
Congrats on the offers.
You're gonna work hard at all of them, especially Moelis LA. That being said, you should consider where you want to be post-grad (East Coast/West Coast) and whether or not you think you could see yourself staying in banking as a place like Centerview is looking to groom you from the bottom up.
Just a heads up about Centerview -- they definitely want to groom you into a long-term banker.
My bias towards C+R comes through; I'd take Centerview.
Knock of Allen right away.
I would take Centerview- awesome culture, awesome pay, and even if you do decide that banking isn't for you you can probably make a move into PE or at the least to HBS.
If you are dead set on PE I would probably take Greenhill TBH- Moelis supposedly has great placement, but they over hire on analysts, and I think you'd get a lot more exposure at Greenhill- also depends if you'd rather be in LA or NYC.
All of these specialize in different areas. Your industry preference should play a role in your decision process.
damn...
Centerview by a LONG stretch
HAHAHAHA Whiskey 5, you are a a joke. Moelis LA is the clear choice. ESPECIALLY for an SA.
Centerview might pay you the best if you return for a career. Centerview and Allen are ok IB shops if you want ok rep, good pay and an ok life, but not the top experience or good exit opps if you end up hating banking and no way to make it from SVP to MD. So unless you love banking for 10-15 years and getting the boot or hitting a ceiling, with no way out, don't go here. Real small shops too without a lot of good work for an SA.
Greenhill and Moelis might be on a comparable level as far as boutiques doing sizable deals with work for the SA, but Greenhill SA's have relatively bad exit opps and not a lot of experience. An SA at Moelis LA can work directly with guys like Ken Moelis, work on epic deals, and will actually do real work great exit opps for full time (last two classes were all megafunds Silver Lake, TPG, Ares, Oaktree and also Disney I think). If you don't know if you want to do banking, you will after a summer there and if you do want to use it as a stepping stone, you got great places to go. Hear they have a high SA retention rate also. All around the best choice (if you're willing to work hard for a summer and not looking at the BULGEEEEEEEEEE). #Bulge4Lyf
Note this is specific to Moelis LA.
I'm all for Moelis LA but two points here
Whiskey 5 usually knows what hes talking about, or at least i usually agree with him..
Second, not to discredit anything you said, BUT if there are FT analysts year 1-3 and assocaites that are DYING TO WORK under Ken Moelis, why would they let a SA interact with him in that type of role or level of capacity? Wouldnt the FT ppl literally fight each other for that opportunity? Maybe im mistaken but just find it hard to believe...then again i could be wrong.
Carry on with the rankings lol....
Moelis LA placement is not overhyped; I know for a fact above poster is correct. Also pretty sure the classes before that were all MF's + Silver Lake (which pays better than most MF's, save Apollo)
I'm calling BS- Moelis has very large analyst classes (larger than other boutiques of its size) and there is no way that they ALL went to MF's and Silver Lake
I think he meant all Moelis LA kids, not all Moelis NY+LA. Overall, Moelis places extremely well-GHL places very well as well, but typically more to elite middle markets
i interviewed with them for SA positions very recently and they said their analyst classes are around 6-7 people each year. i've heard that their NY office has a much larger analyst class though. moelis la had a ridiculously hard interview btw. wish i studied more...
Ask anyone that actually works there - ridiculous placement
Also the kid doesn't have a Centerview offer, so that isn't worth worrying about- super day isn't until next week
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