SA Overtime Pay

I am at a BB, and it turns out we got our first overtime pay this week.
We were initially told overtime would be 1.5x our hourly rate, but it turns out overtime is .5x our hourly rate. I have asked friends at other BB and they said they received the.5x ot as well and every is confused. OT is suppose to be the same of not more than your reg rate. Doesn't it defeat the purpose of getting paid less for more hours? Anyone else seeing this issue?

 

I read on another thread here that SA do get OT while FT get bonuses that cover for OT. I think all SA get overtime. It is just the concept of getting less for more hours makes no sense, it was 1.5x last summer. I am not complainging just trying to see if its the same trand for SA at other banks.

 
heyalexxxxx1:
I read on another thread here that SA do get OT while FT get bonuses that cover for OT. I think all SA get overtime. It is just the concept of getting less for more hours makes no sense, it was 1.5x last summer. I am not complainging just trying to see if its the same trand for SA at other banks.

1) You're not getting less for more hours. SAs who do not get overtime (who definitely exist) would be getting paid NOTHING for any hours worked overtime. Just be glad you're getting something.

2) This should be in your contract, which you should have read thoroughly and kept a copy of.

3) Be grateful that you are an SA at a BB at all. Tons of kids would kill to take your spot and be paid nothing at all. At this stage you shouldn't be concerned about how much you're making, it's so minimal compared to the path a gig like yours will set you up for throughout your lifetime. So shut the fuck up and don't worry about it

 
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Steelo:
heyalexxxxx1:
I read on another thread here that SA do get OT while FT get bonuses that cover for OT. I think all SA get overtime. It is just the concept of getting less for more hours makes no sense, it was 1.5x last summer. I am not complainging just trying to see if its the same trand for SA at other banks.

1) You're not getting less for more hours. SAs who do not get overtime (who definitely exist) would be getting paid NOTHING for any hours worked overtime. Just be glad you're getting something.

2) This should be in your contract, which you should have read thoroughly and kept a copy of.

3) Be grateful that you are an SA at a BB at all. Tons of kids would kill to take your spot and be paid nothing at all. At this stage you shouldn't be concerned about how much you're making, it's so minimal compared to the path a gig like yours will set you up for throughout your lifetime. So shut the fuck up and don't worry about it

Holy shit dude what crawled up your ass? Chill the fuck out. Not once in his post was he bitching. This is a perfectly legitimate question.

OP: Idk how the BB's do it but BNP Paribas IBD SA's get 1.5x overtime

 

Its 1.5x but your hourly rate is determined by salary/hours worked. So you only see the .5x because the 1x is included in your salary. Longer you work the less you get paid "hourly," but technically you are still receiving time and a half for overtime. Pretty standard for summer analysts now since they have done away with end of summer bonuses (for the most part).

 

thanks Tropicalfruit, I am in no way complaining just trying to see what other SA are getting. I read the contract and the way its phrased it means 1.5x but then HR explained another detail which made it clearer and confirmed it was .5x.

Fling my hourly is $31, it is based on a 65k annual salary that analyst receive.

Also I am not in IB, I am in risk management. After speaking to my fellow SA in IB they are receiving the same .5x overtime. The same goes 2 other BB where my friends are SA.

Like I said in my op, I am just trying to see what other SA in BB are receiving.

 
cubechimp:
I get $70k prorated, no overtime. The top BBs (GS/MS/JPM) don't pay OT for their Summers, at least in the U.S.... why would they? I doubt anyone would choose UBS (which does pay OT, time-and-a-half I believe) over those three just to make an extra couple hundo over the summer.

Some of the divisions / desks at these banks do pay overtime. Beyond that, that salary that is pro-rated can vary by SA (again, varies by desk) within the same bank.

 
cubechimp:
I get $70k prorated, no overtime. The top BBs (GS/MS/JPM) don't pay OT for their Summers, at least in the U.S.... why would they? I doubt anyone would choose UBS (which does pay OT, time-and-a-half I believe) over those three just to make an extra couple hundo over the summer.

Your division at your bank may not but there are some that do. Also, if UBS pays time and a half, that's a hell of a lot more than a few hundred.

70k prorated works out to around 33.65/hour 33.651.5 = roughly $50/hour if you're doing 100 hour work weeks which is pretty common for ubs, 6050 is an extra 3,000 a week and roughly 30,000 for the summer.

There are most definitely people who would take ubs + 30,000 over goldman

 

How do you even calculate overtime for a banker? I mean, basing it on a 40-hour week would be ridiculous, there isn't a single front-office employee who works that little (okay, okay, I've heard Sales & Trading MDs work pretty close to market hours, but still).

Is overtime really that commonplace for SAs? I mean, I'm pulling 80-100 hour weeks here, same as everyone else--I just assumed no one was getting OT except at shops that want to attract top talent away from those banks perceived as "better."

I'm assuming no bank pays FT analysts overtime....right?

 

Lehman definitely doesn't, unfortunately. FUCK... CS pays overtime? I should have waited to get the offer letter before turning them down. That would have been sweet.

 
iambateman:
it seems worth it to get overtime pay at DB or CS, but this stops once you are a full time analyst and a better bank far outweighs a few extra thousand dollars

DB and CS are not worse banks by any means

 

From what I have heard from a buddy who worked at CS NY this summer and was paid at 0.5x, they actually take this money out of your next year's full time bonus if you accept your full time offer. Has anyone heard this as well?

 

Between the overtime you get as an SA and the bonus you get as a FT first year, it should actually end up being relatively equal. Actually, I think if you figure 80 hrs/week you would still get less for hourly plus OT than you would if you were top or middle bucket FT. Of course once you get to 90 hrs it is probably about even, but either way it's good.

 

My bank is paying me overtime this summer. The HR lady called to tell that they will be. Although my hourly is $20 rather than $35.

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