3.6 and relevant experience stands a chance anywhere if you network
Resumes are similar to BB/EB analysts, often just those who got unlucky with BB interviews for one reason or another. it's not just a bunch of 3.4s from non targets, decent MMs are still highly competitive. As you get further down the MM list into LMM this becomes less true
This. If you don't have an "in," 3.6 doesn't stand much of a chance. If your dad used to be a senior banker at the firm or was/is a c-suite guy at a client's company, great chance.
I have a 3.6 gpa from a non-target and got an internship & FT offer from Stifel. People I worked with were from Penn, Northwestern, etc. Everyone’s resume is similar, it’s all about how you network and your personal preference on if you want to work at a MM or EB/BB.
What’s a typical IB Analyst at an MM firm like at Stifel or cowen?
What are gpa cutoffs like at these firms and what are target schools?
Do non targets with 3.6s and relevant experience stand a chance?
Thanks
At our MM, there is not a strict or published cut-off by HR and different people view GPA differently (I am more lax to a degree - will consider anyone above 3.3, another VP in a different group is very anal - 3.7 or above)
Keep in mind, this is just to get the interview. Other things that differentiate:
1) How much effort did you show in terms of your submission? Did you include a cover letter and was it unique or personal? Did it effectively communicate why you would be a good fit for our MM?
2) Have you called some alumni or industry bankers to learn more about their experience? Have you pitched yourself and what makes you interested in being a MM analyst?
3) Don't make stupid mistakes. You would be shocked how often (a couple applicants per year) call Lazard, Lizard or Lazerd or whatever. If you can't even spell the bank's name, how would I have confidence in you work product that needs to go to a client or external party in an efficient manner?
Yes but aren’t you the guy who comments on other threads about being elite because you got an EB offer, shitting on BBs for being less prestigious than EBs etc
Imagine if they actually did some research in the way of MDs' and senior leaderships' backgrounds, academically and professionally, at some of these midmarket firms? There'd be a hell of a lot less dissonance between WSO and reality.
Very bank dependent. MM bank I worked at (like a Harris Williams / Lincoln), didn’t move one candidate on who had a low 3 GPA at an Ivy. That candidate ended up at elite boutique.
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3.6 and relevant experience stands a chance anywhere if you network
Resumes are similar to BB/EB analysts, often just those who got unlucky with BB interviews for one reason or another. it's not just a bunch of 3.4s from non targets, decent MMs are still highly competitive. As you get further down the MM list into LMM this becomes less true
This. If you don't have an "in," 3.6 doesn't stand much of a chance. If your dad used to be a senior banker at the firm or was/is a c-suite guy at a client's company, great chance.
Girls I dated that worked at MM were super obsessed with prestige.
I have a 3.6 gpa from a non-target and got an internship & FT offer from Stifel. People I worked with were from Penn, Northwestern, etc. Everyone’s resume is similar, it’s all about how you network and your personal preference on if you want to work at a MM or EB/BB.
At our MM, there is not a strict or published cut-off by HR and different people view GPA differently (I am more lax to a degree - will consider anyone above 3.3, another VP in a different group is very anal - 3.7 or above)
Keep in mind, this is just to get the interview. Other things that differentiate:
1) How much effort did you show in terms of your submission? Did you include a cover letter and was it unique or personal? Did it effectively communicate why you would be a good fit for our MM?
2) Have you called some alumni or industry bankers to learn more about their experience? Have you pitched yourself and what makes you interested in being a MM analyst?
3) Don't make stupid mistakes. You would be shocked how often (a couple applicants per year) call Lazard, Lizard or Lazerd or whatever. If you can't even spell the bank's name, how would I have confidence in you work product that needs to go to a client or external party in an efficient manner?
Imagine the WSO prestige whore’s mind being blown when he realizes that capable individuals from targets work at MM banks
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Yes but aren’t you the guy who comments on other threads about being elite because you got an EB offer, shitting on BBs for being less prestigious than EBs etc
If not, my mistake. Totally agree
Imagine if they actually did some research in the way of MDs' and senior leaderships' backgrounds, academically and professionally, at some of these midmarket firms? There'd be a hell of a lot less dissonance between WSO and reality.
Exactly
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Very bank dependent. MM bank I worked at (like a Harris Williams / Lincoln), didn’t move one candidate on who had a low 3 GPA at an Ivy. That candidate ended up at elite boutique.
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