US non-target Canada IB recruiting

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Current 1st / 2nd year student at a non-target in the US looking to recruit for IB in Canada as a US citizen - what does timeline for recruiting look like compared to the US’s?

Anything to avoid? I’ve heard BMO is to be strayed away from while good things said about TD

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, here's what you need to know about recruiting for IB in Canada as a US citizen:

  1. Recruitment Timeline:

    • Canadian IB recruitment typically starts later than the US. For summer analyst roles, recruitment in Canada often begins in the late summer or early fall, compared to the US where processes can start as early as the spring or summer of the prior year.
    • Networking is crucial, and many Canadian banks (RBC, TD, Scotiabank, etc.) have structured recruitment cycles similar to US banks but with slightly less aggressive timelines.
  2. Target Banks:

    • TD and RBC are often highlighted positively in WSO threads for their strong deal flow and culture.
    • BMO has received mixed reviews, with some suggesting it may not be as competitive or desirable compared to other Canadian banks. However, this can vary by group and location.
    • Other notable players include Scotiabank, CIBC, and National Bank, as well as global banks with Canadian offices like Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan, and Morgan Stanley.
  3. Key Considerations:

    • As a US citizen, you won't face the same visa challenges as international students, which is a significant advantage.
    • Focus on networking with Canadian bankers, especially alumni from your school or those with US connections.
    • Be prepared for a slightly different interview style, as Canadian banks may emphasize fit and cultural alignment more than technicals compared to US banks.
  4. Things to Avoid:

    • Avoid underestimating the importance of networking in Canada. The market is smaller, and relationships play a significant role in securing interviews.
    • Be cautious about relying solely on online applications without leveraging connections, as this can lead to being overlooked.

If you're targeting Canadian IB roles, start networking early, focus on building relationships with bankers in Toronto (the hub of Canadian IB), and tailor your approach to the slightly different recruitment timeline and culture.

Sources: https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-banking/canadian-2021-investment-banking-summer-analyst-thread?customgpt=1, SA 2019 Recruitment timeline for Canadian undergrads to US, Here are the Target Undergraduate Schools in Canada, CANADIAN 2018 Investment Banking Summer Analyst mini Thread, IBD Barriers to Entry For Canadians and How to Overcome Them

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Is there a reason you want to recruit for Canada? Cause Canadian IB is tiny and very competitive and a lot of them don't sponsor. There is probably 80 to 100 seats in total in all of Canada for IB accross all firms, jpm or gs individually probably hire more than 100 in the US alone so the class sizes are much bigger in the US. 

Also as a Canadian, the weather sucks, the taxes suck, and the canadian dollar is so weak. I love Canada by all means but I really don't see the appeal in working in Canada if you are from the States or is American

 

Gotcha - thanks for the info. Looking to Canada as an alternative to working in the US and heard some places like TD might have better WLB, but thanks for highlighting the other side of the coin - was thinking about trying to go under CUSMA as either account or economist but neither are really directly related to IB especially since I’m from a northeastern non-target

 

Yeah, TD has pretty good culture and overall decent WLB (prob best on the street). But if you are interested in a career banking team with more predictable hours/WLB, you could alway look into your capital market roles (ECM, DCM, ect.) in the US they typically work a more market driven hours so less weekend work and more predictable. The trade off is less exit ops. 

If you go to a school with international presence I would look at London as a back up, I think they have a bigger market than Canada and depending on school you may qualify for HPI visa

Also correct me if I'm wrong but Big5 Canada doesn't really sponsor, everyone I know it either Canadian or PR. 

 

Why on EARTH would you want to go to Canada? Search this forum and you will see that 90% of Canadians in IB have made their sole purpose in life getting out of Canada.

 

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