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I know the motto used to be spend the base of save the bonus but I do not think that is a smart idea. Base Salaries have gone up and bonuses have gone down for most places. For this reason, I would first save up an emergency fund that is equivalent to 3-6 months of your living expenses and then invest the rest. It also might be a good idea to start tracking your expenses so you do not spend too much on things that do not bring you utillity.

 

Actually a question i started asking myself more and more the closer i get to my first big salarys. Like nice clothes? Already got some but theres a limit of much you can spend and how much your closet fits. Not paying for stupid brand names. Like 400$ per cashmere sweater is fine but 4000$ loro piana is stupid. A nice Car? Well depends on where you live a car can be unusable, and is an ongoing liability. I can see myself with luxury rental cars and hotels. Nice restaurants. Nice vacations. But always rewatch american psycho if you think next designer furniture or designer suit will finish your inner cravings.

 

They should have a zyn machine by the coffee machine in all offices. You make a nice coffee and grab a fresh 6 mg of your choosing - can probably increase worker productivity by atleast 25%

 
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I’ve been asking myself this shit the past year - what am I doing with my money? Went single halfway through which I realized has helped a lot.

  • max 401k
  • super expensive rent
  • dates
  • buying rounds of shots whenever I go out with friends
  • 2 nice, week long vacations per year
  • buying random shit from Amazon to pimp out my apartment
  • buying a fucj ton of health food as I cut, like some absolute ridiculous $3/bag of protein chip shit
  • really nice bday/holiday gifts ($200-$400/imediate family member, small family tho so only like $2k-$3k)

Honestly. Not fucking bad as much as I hate this job.

 

Reason for maxing 401k and not just contribute the matching? Genuinely don’t know which is the right move here

 

It is the most tax-efficient way to invest your money for retirement given you don't have to pay capital gains tax. I prefer the Roth option to pay income taxes now and then never pay additional tax no matter how much the account grows.

If you invest current max of $22,500 at age 25 with 7% annual return, it will grow to $240,223 by age 60 when you're able to withdraw. That's a gain of $217,723 for which if not in a tax-advantaged account you'd pay $32,658 in capital gains tax (assuming 15% rate). Magnify this by 20+ years of 401k contributions and the cumulative tax burden grows dramatically. 

From my standpoint, in this career you're making enough money to start maxing after having built up some savings buffer within the first 1-2 years and will typically have excess cash well above expenses so might as well invest in the most efficient instrument for you're retirement and reach retirement financial independence on paper as soon as possible giving you more flexibility to take risks during your career and complete comfort after 60. If you stay in banking, you'll also continue to earn well in excess of the 401k max that if you still want to build investments outside of retirement assets, you can do that too. 

 

Sorry what? 330k after taxes in NY is like 205k, how did you survive off of 25k?

 

How do people get this far and not have any clue what money is for?

you should spend as little as possible and save as much as you can into index funds and maybe a HYSA for a real estate down payment

target a 60% savings rate

to start with, you should absolutely be contributing the max $22.5k to 401k (this will only cost you like 12k after tax at NYC rates)

You can’t afford luxury crap until you have 25x your annual spending in liquid assets

 

Yes, if that reliably happens, this will be massive overkill.

will buy optionality for potential hiccups or values changes tho. Whoops! You got your analyst spot at CS! Oh, you’re 26 and now you’d rather focus on fitness than working 100 hours a week for 10 more years? 
no problem, you’ve already got a few 100k in the bank and you’re not dependent on a high income to maintain your lifestyle 

 

Don't work at a bank anymore, but make a similar base now in new role. My advice to an analyst would be to save an emergency fund first, and then fund stuff like HSA/IRA/401k as much as possible with your base, but not so much that you feel constrained at all. And then bonus can go towards discretionary savings. Yeah having a fat brokerage account is nice, but once your emergency fund / HSA / Retirement accounts are well funded, that's a huge safety net to have if your career gets disrupted. I max my 401k / HSA / IRA (ifmy AGI can be pulled down low enough, backdoor if not) with my salary, and then that leaves plenty of money for enjoyment while knowing I am being smart with my money. My bonus is what gets plowed into the markets.

 

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