What kind of car do you drive?
Pretty basic, but curious as to what kind of car you drive? I still have the same old truck I’ve had since I turned 16 and will immediately be getting something far nicer once my first real check hits in the future.
Pretty basic, but curious as to what kind of car you drive? I still have the same old truck I’ve had since I turned 16 and will immediately be getting something far nicer once my first real check hits in the future.
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No car, no problem
Walking everywhere is game changing
My very reliable Toyota Corolla. I honestly don’t get the hype about owning super expensive cars.
For car enthusiasts and people who understand quality engineering, expensive really has nothing to do with it. If I spend $200k on a Porsche, it's because it's an amazing piece of engineering and really fun to drive. I'm not buying it because it's expensive, it just happens to be expensive. Only flashy idiots care about how expensive their car is, it helps them feel like they matter.
Exactly. To me, these cars are interactive art that “lives” and breathes. My VP gift to myself will be a white on red or red on tan Ferrari F430. Hopefully, gated manual.
Its about comfort. If you have a sizable commute you're spending a good chunk of your life inside your car and it's going to be a lot more enjoyable if the car is more luxurious.
No car. Let's think about it here. If you live in the city with public transportation and can expense Uber/Lyft, how much incremental cost is associated with owning a car? Cost of car + insurance + gas + parking would yield to around 700 - 800 per month if not more. I'd rather live in a bigger apartment.
There is also limited opportunity to use the car as an M&A professional, if you know what I mean...
Now this is just my cheap ass talking, purely from a financial point of view.
Guaranteed Analysts and Associates spend that much every month on booze and restaurants. I only point out An/As because once you're VP+ and have significantly more disposable income, $700-$800/ month really isn't that meaningful.
It's really easy to say that, but that's how people get caught in lifestyle creep and can make you beholden to the job
The tram. It's electric and you always meet new and interesting people...
Assuming it's a mk v supra. Love that car and the way it drives/sounds. I can't for the life of me understand the hate it gets from people that probably haven't even driven it
Hey man, I’m moving to SF next summer so I’m curious (if your in SF) how’s the commute into the city?
~$35K in 2016 for a sports car (won't specify the model as it's a fairly uncommon one and I don't know if people I know lurk on these boards) and resold it for around $23K earlier this year. Had like 5 legit offers. Didn't have the need for it for at least the next few years. Very fun car to drive, had amazing pickup.
You’ve got me curious on the car, spill the beans and delete it after if you want
I'll just PM you directly.
Lotus?
Nah but good guess
i am guessing it's a JPM car?
At LCOL MM. Would say it’s a 50/50 split with analysts having nicer cars like BMWs, Mercedes, Teslas (model 3 ofc), etc. and then rest with standard Hondas, Toyotas, VWs, etc
I’m in BB and have a BMW just because it was the only thing that checked all my boxes. My next car will be a Toyota. I got to have the experience and I’ll be ready to get into something cheaper and easier to maintain and more reliable
Lol I also have a BMW and I absolutely love it. Hopefully next car will be a C8 vet if it'll actually sell at MSRP within the next 10 years
Classic Overland Defender 110. Overkill for my daily commute, but I don't care. Worth every penny.
What year?
1998
The dream car. I assume you’re a VP or above then to afford it? Only curious since I want to know a realistic timeline before I can buy one
Why classic overland over Himalayan and other competitors??
I bought the car as a Senior Associate. My best friends father bought a classic overland a few years prior and after seeing it in person, driving it, and hearing he had no reliability issues, I was sold.
06 Acura TL, I don't really drive too much even in a Tier 1 city that isn't walkable. Parking is a hassle so I usually end up taking lyft/uber (even though sometimes it can be hard to get one).
My mothers
BMW 340
Same. Helluva a car for the money! Highly recommend spending $200 on a DINANTRONICS, makes a noticeable difference
Tesla Model Y - but I'm also a dad and I commute
Do you really think its ethical to bring another human being into this world?
Yes - because the risk of underpopulation is just as bad as the risk of overpopulation.
Tesla Model Y, don’t recommend getting a car. Never get much use out of one. I have a unique situation that would make not owning one somewhat more expensive even in my HCOL but not by much.
I plan on waiting awhile until I get my next car. Likely going for a Porsche or Tesla depending on depreciation on each of the cars and family situation.
Model Y is a fantastic choice, my cousin has one and he loves it.
Audi A4
Ford Model T
2021 Challenger Scat Pack with the six speed. I highly do not recommend in NYC. It’s fun once you get out on the highways but a nightmare in midtown.
2021 Golf GTI. Not in NY but another big walkable city. Totally unnecessary but it's great to have and a lot of fun.
In NY, anything other than a bicycle or scooter is just a money sink. that doesn't mean you can't own a car if you were really into cars, just be prepared for it to be a money sink you get little utility out of. after you factor in parking, insurance, tax, repair (from getting your car dinged), I'd be surprised if the total cost of ownership isn't twice as high as somewhere like Houston and the utility less than half.
2019 VW Golf R
+1, one of my best friends has a stage 1 Mk7.5 R with an aftermarket clutch, flywheel, exhaust etc. It is alarmingly fast.
2016 golf r over here. love it but I really don't need it lol
2016 GT3RS in TX. Driven only on weekends. On weekdays, I drive a beater into the office. If I lived in NYC, I'd own neither.
I mean compared to a GT3RS, the definition of “beater” is pretty broad.
I live in NYC and being able to own cool cars in Texas and getting to drive them is almost reason enough to move over for me
Out of curiosity, what is your aggregate monthly expenses associated with your GT3RS (car payment, gas, insurance, parking, etc.)? It is my dream car but I dont think Im financially positioned to own one.
Monthly loan payment: ~$2700/mo.
Insurance: I think I paid $1200 or so for 6 months of insurance in Feb? I really don't remember. This is going to be due again soon so I will update.
Gas: I don't look or keep track at what I pay for gas. This car is not fun if you're not above 6K in revs where all the power and noise is. Consequently I get about 12.5mpg. When I first got it, I think I probably spent $700-800 in gas in the first month but that's because I was driving it so often. You gotta pay to play.
Parking: $75/mo for a safe reserved spot in my apt garage.
Other costs this past year: Here's really the meat of the costs besides the core loan payment. After I first bought it, I found out shortly after it needed new spark plugs = $1100+. I've driven it 5K miles this year and I've trashed the Cup 2's = $2000 for a new set. Had PPF already, but got new tint installed = $900. I pay $100/mo to have a mobile detailer come out and clean it. Did an oil change = $350. Bought extra exhaust components (have yet to be installed) = $2000.
It's definitely not cheap in the slightest but it's doable. I personally justified it after saving up enough over my analyst stint to pay off the car almost 2x over, which was only possible thanks to COVID supercharging my savings. I've invested all those earnings and my base currently comfortably pays for all the monthly expenses. I honestly have no regrets - this was also my dream car, and the dream to own one has always been why I strived for a good career in the first place.
Another alternative you can consider is the 991.1 GT3, which is 90% of the experience at 60% of the cost. Honestly this route is probably what I should have gone with. They are an incredible value at their current market prices.
Any considerations when choosing the GT3RS (vs like a 991.1 or .2)? The 991.2 has also been a dream car of mine (even more than the new 992s) and will likely be the next in the stable but would love to hear what made you go with the RS.
You have great taste! I also prefer the 991 generation to the 992. The 992 is a technical marvel, but the 991 holds a special place in my heart. It was the generation I drove my first sports car and Porsche ever (a C4S) and to me I far prefer the 991 looks. Plus the 991 sounds better thanks to no OPF, which is a huge portion of what makes these cars so special.
In terms of why I chose mine, candidly it all came down to price. At the time I bought mine, a 991.2 GT3RS commanded a $50-70K premium over a 991.1. I could not justify that given in spirit the cars are the same.
I also considered a 991.2 GT3, which is about the same price as the .1 3RS. However, that car feels in spirit very similar the .1 GT3, which could be had for a significantly cheaper price $130-150K. With the engine warranties in the .1 GT3 still lasting into 2024/25/26, it just didn’t make sense to me to go with a .2 GT3 when I could have effectively the same experience for much cheaper.
If I could choose again, I think a .1 GT3 might’ve been a better fit. The value you get for what they’re trading at right now is just too good. It’s slightly softer than my RS, but I don’t track the car (although I intend to do so one of these days! Hard to do a track day if you can’t get a weekend off…) and it would probably suit my needs better. And be a lot cheaper! No regrets though.
Hot wheels
1997 Plymouth GRAND Voyager long wheelbase, 4 cylinder. Purple.
This guy fucks
Pizz
Jaguar F-Type R coupe
Got lucky during covid and found a good deal on a self-service reserved garage spot here in NYC.
Nice choice! Do you have the pre-facelift or the new version (2021+)? I had a 2017 F-Type SVR that I miss a lot.
Not really sensible for anyone in NYC to own a car, unless you are at MD (minimum VP) level AND have kids. Analysts/Associates have no need for one, and I would argue that a single or childless MD living in this city does not need one either.
Having a vehicle provides a great deal of freedom that you don't realize until you actually have one. Even just simple things like getting out of the city on a whim one weekend, sure you can rent a car but that is often a friction point that will cause many people to just say "f*ck it" because they don't want to deal with the hassle of renting a car. I had a car while I was living in the city and a friend of mine didn't have a car, the amount of times he would ask to use it were significant. To me it's 100% worth the expense.
2018 BMW M3. I work in NYC but live in long island so I need to use it every time I go to work (drive to the LIRR).
Sexy car what color?
Thanks! Black Sapphire. Really can't go wrong.
2017 Mazda 3 GT, recent upgrade. Previously had a 1999 beige Toyota Corolla with a spoiler and a cassette player - I really miss it.
2018 4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium with some upgrades (armor, bigger tires, roof rack, etc). I'm in Scottsdale and spend a lot of weekends camping and hitting 4x4 trails. Best vehicle I have ever owned and a ton of fun on dirt, but more comfy than a Jeep JK/JL. Already at 100k miles and still runs like it's brand new. They also hold value very well and are easy to wrench on.
2019 Audi RS3. Non-T1 city. It's kind of a pain to have a stiff suspension on my daily driver, but, man, the engine note.
How’s the interior size on those? Such a small car but the exhaust sounds incredible.
Very tight. Wouldn't give it up for anything, but it's not practical unless you're hauling two adults and two children (which is okay, but not great).
Pisses me off we can't get the Sportback in the US.
1985 white Lamborghini Countach, two of ‘em.
I need a slow motion video right now
VP3, SF based living outside of city. A car guy, so a meaningful portion of my bonuses over the years have gone to the hobby. Fortunate that most of my cars had seen minimal to no depreciation during my ownership. Some pics of more interesting ones below
Current:
2010 Ferrari 458
2022 Lexus GX460 (wife's car)
2013 Mazda 3 (my daily, waiting on a Taycan RWD if the shipping/12V battery delays ever subside)
Past:
2014 Audi R8 V10+
2018 Ford Raptor
2015 Camaro SS 1LE
2015 BMW R Nine T (bike)
What a stud. I like how your choices have been all over. I'd probably do the same. I hope to get a motorcycle at some point.
Is the V10 R8 matte blue? That color looks unreal and truly unique
Yeah, for the facelift cars, they had a factory option for Matte Sepang Blue. Great color, not sure if I'd do matte paint again without a full ppf (my car came with half ppf). Because it's matte you can't polish out any imperfections or swirls
Literally do not understand how you could drive the 458 or anything similarly low clearance in a place as hilly as SF
That's because I don't live in SF
Any chance you work in Healthcare IB? I think I remember the 458 and Raptor on a Reddit post you made a while back. Beautiful garage and great taste in cars
Thanks and yeah same guy
Beautiful 458 - are the wheels Novitec?
I had a hell of a hard time deciding between the 458 and F12 at the end of last year. To my eye the 458 is the most beautiful modern Ferrari and of course being the last rear-mid N/A V8 car to come out of Maranello will always be a classic. However, I sort of missed the window with prices skyrocketing and at the time F12's hadn't had such a meteoric rise to the point that 458's and F12's were within ~10% of each other.
Ultimately I decided to go with the F12 since I already have a GT3 and thought the V12 with the flat 6 would be a perfect pairing. Also the sound of the V12 is out of this world and puts the Porsche to shame. So far so good and pleased to see the values of F12's continue to rise. To many people (including myself) they look much better than the 812 as it is the last pininfarina designed V12.
Thank you! The wheels are Forged Motegi wheels - the company made the wheels for the 458 GT3 racecar, and released a commercial version that was similar styling wise
I think you've chosen perfectly - the F12 paired with the GT3 is a fantastic combo. Also agree on the styling point. These high performance N/As are not long for this world
I just want to say I'm so jealous. Nothing beats a Ferrari NA V12 in sound. Sadly all the Ferrari NA products have edged upwards in price and I don't know if they'll ever come back down. The 458 and 488 are about the same price now, which is absolutely bonkers that a 10+ year old 458 is now more expensive than 991.2 GT3RS prices. At this point I don't think I'll ever own one.
Completely agree that the F12 is far more beautiful than the 812 as well. Both models should hold strong on prices into the future. The Competizione is the V12 swan song, end of era sadly.
see you at skylonda
2010 E92 M3. I wouldn't call it expensive as I was able to walk out the door paying less than the sticker price of the average new car sold in '21. I really wanted a high revving NA V8, and a 8200 rpm 4.0L S65 did the trick. Great car to daily as well as track.
I knew repairs / maintenance would be bad, but it is so much worse than I expected. Fun cars are a horrendous investment, but everyone is addicted to something I suppose. Cant imagine what it would be like to own a GT3RS or Mc 720S.
Regarding my next cars, I have two avenues I am considering. If I go practical, I would honestly just get a 2012 civic / accord. If I want to go further down the rabbit hole, next car will likely be a Supra, C8, or a V10 R8. Depends on how ridiculous I get.
For anyone contemplating a luxury / sports car as their sole vehicle, I would highly recommend getting a beater first.
R8 V10 was pretty reliable when I owned it. At the time, Fidelity was offering an extended warranty for cars still under factory warranty, $3500 for +6 years of additional warranty over factory, bumper to bumper coverage with $500 deductible. The themostat on the car did end up failing during my ownership (fans would constantly run and temp never got up to normal), was replaced by the fidelity warranty. Otherwise a pretty solid car.
I liked your post above, and appreciate the additional info. A high revving V10 sounds like the dream. Did you like the handling? Any downsides?
Which of all your cars are your fav?
Assuming u live in Chicago ( based on the pfp), I would go with a newer r8. I have a ‘12 GT spyder and that thing is not the most reliable nor comfy for Chicago. Also the soft tops are not great for the weather.
Thank you for the info, I was thinking coupe not spyder as I agree with your perspective on Chicago winters. I really like how the older R8s rev much higher, which is a huge factor for me. Best and worst part about your GT spyder?
IMO the E92 is the best M3 to ever be made. F80s sound like complete shit compared to E92s and my few friends who drive F80s can't cope with that fact.
I'd assume you'd have to deal with throttle actuators and rod bearings but what else have you had to deal with that makes it much worse than expected?
Couldn't agree more. Aside from the TBAs and RBs (which I did as preventative maintenance and immediately upon purchasing the car) I had to replace temperature sensors for both my transmission and engine, get my AC fixed, and a handful of other unanticipated expenses. Roughly $7-8k within the first 10k miles.
I would grab a stick Civic Hatch as a daily, the 1.5T is really fuel efficient but still a blast to drive. Hatch is massive.
The R8 should be pretty reliable and out of those 3 would be my pick, otherwise, I've heard good things about the Supra (haven't gotten a chance to test one yet).
Not a huge fan of the C8. Maybe I'm just biased against American cars but it just doesn't do anything for me, excited for the Z06 though.
2017 Hyundai Sonata. Will upgrade in next couple years to an SUV. But don’t wanna get too fancy
2019 Porsche 718 Cayman S
Cost about $75k. Wanted a 911 or used R8 but got killed in the market this year, and got a pretty good deal on a CPO cayman with the right options so pulled the trigger. Was originally shopping for a Cayman turbo GTS, but apparently the S and GTS have pretty much the same engine, and with an ECU tune both can produce the same HP and torque and get into the ~3.7-3.6s range for 0-60, which felt like a bargain at ~$75k relative to the brand name, reliability, and performance potential.
Cayman Gts sucks outside of the track. Revs too high and you can't ever get to 3rd driving spirited on local roads. Cayman S is probably the best way to go for $/fun/performance ratio
Even more true for the GT4/Spyder especially with the manual. Around town you effectively use only two gears. Cayman S is the sweet spot!
Ferrari F12 Berlinetta and Porsche GT3
992?
991.1 have had it for a few years
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G82 BMW M4 Comp - Toronto red
Ford econoline with blacked out windows
Honda HR-V.
I live in northern California and my company provides me with a car (expat) but as soon as I get my green card and the expat freebies end, I'm buying an older soft top Jeep Wragnler and taking out the doors.
2021 Bronco
My dream starter car when I become an analyst is a nice Porsche taycan gts sport
Lol no - not a good decision as an analyst just starting out, esp if you're NY based
2022 Jetta SE in CLT/ATL. The SE trim has a surprisingly very nice interior, but the acceleration is shit, so definitely get the sport option. I grew up driving an older BMW 3 series so in 3-4 years I plan to be back with BMW.
bmw
This is the post I needed to convince me to recruit ft in Houston
‘21 Volvo XC90 T6 Inscription. Picked it up from the dealership about 5 months ago, only had 15k miles on it. Was rocking an older S90 for a bit but needed more space for weekend ski trips with the boys and afternoon bike rides.
Nice car, I ended up going with the XC40 R-Type, didn't need the extra space of the XC60/XC90 at this point.
I looked at the 40 but I found that I just couldn’t fit my road bike with extra bags, and the step up in comfort at the 90 I couldn’t turn down.
Actually got my first car in college. Was a lucky bastard and bought a few Bitcoin in high school after a friend told me about it and sold around 17k. Used the proceeds to put 50% down on a 2015 RWD F Type R. Crazy to imagine these cars just 4 years ago were in the mid 40s. Was a CPO car and I got a good rate and 2 years of coverage.
Sold this car for a 10k profit during the Covid boom in 2020. Everyone wanted a sports car and this was the only year of a F type R before they went fully AWD (and was still the original styling before the current gen looks which are debatable at best).
Have been able to keep a car around for my 2 years as an analyst. Parking is nuts, 500 bucks a month. However, I think it’s important to consider what you buy and not the monthly payment or total cost. Since the F type I’ve tried to buy cars which fit my liking but anticipate future demand. My next “car” was actually a Ford Raptor. Have driven it 30k miles in 2 years and was offered a short while ago for almost sticker of what I paid for it as I had it custom ordered from factory and factory orders can’t have dealer mark up hikes at Ford.
Won’t go into the insurance and nuances in this post but I think the biggest takeaway is to buy cars which don’t depreciate as much rather than just bottom line headline figures. An E92 M3 is likely a better buy than a 3 series from a newer generation simply because one holds value if not appreciates in value. The other is a widget. Do your diligence, be willing to take a weekend to travel to check something out, put in the effort to buy private part, and make your money on the buy not the sale.
Got off early tonight so here’s a continuation of the above and my personal thoughts on good cars to buy in this upcoming downturn.
Below 25k:
Select AP1 generation Honda S2k (assuming you can drive manual and can upkeep maintenance on a 20 year old car, find a good Indy shop, most dealer techs weren’t around long enough to know these cars well)
Subaru WRX STI Hatch: Subaru stopped making the hatch in 2014, and the eJ257 motor is unchanged from the previous gen to the current (pre 2022) gen. They discontinued the STI this year and the new car looks like a cross trek. These cars in good condition with acceptable mods will be worth a lot one day.
Below 50k
cadillac CTSV (previous gen). Extra points for wagon or manual, or both!
e92 m3 with manual, competition (zcp), and carbon roof
W204 gen C63. Last of the naturally aspirated V8 C63s now that AMG is going hybrid 2L 4 bangers. Guaranteed future classic and easy for anyone to drive as it’s automatic and more of a daily car than the above.
Just bought a lambo, gwagon and ‘rarri with my internship money. Thinking about buying a Bugatti next week though since I still have money left over and feel insecure.
2020 Mustang GT
2018 Honda Accord with manual
Those new accords with the long hoods look sexy imo, thinking of getting the sport model. Currently have a '10 accord that I picked up in college for >5k that has treated me amazingly. Never broke down on me except once when the axle snapped. Anything I should know about that generation accord? Any regrets?
Ordered in Jan 2022 but it finally left the factory the other week-
2023 Audi S5 sportback. Can't wait to drive it. Current car is worth 35k so costing around 35k outta pocket
Really like the look of this car. What do you think about buying a used A5 or S5 as a first car?
Depends if you can afford it. I got really lucky and have a car that's worth a lot which is helping offset the upfront cost of the Audi.
Besides the A/S/RS7, i think A/S/RS5 sportback is the best body style that Audi makes (out of their "normal" coupes/sedans).
2023 Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio in green. Highly suggest you pick one up.
Giulias are great. Reliability is pretty good on the newer ones and they are a blast to drive.
Edit: Just realized you said Stelvio lmao, but my comment should go for all new Alfas anyways..
Any thoughts on the 17/18 giulia QVs? Particularly on reliability. I drove one and love it but I see mixed things about reliability. What changed on the new models?
Any thoughts on the 17/18 giulia QVs? Particularly on reliability. I drove one and love it but I see mixed things about reliability. What changed on the new models?
2019 540i BMW xDrive - lease is up end of December this year. Probably gonna get another Bimmer (i4 M50)
or a Tesla model Y
Hyundai Sonata Hybrid
Wasn’t the best financial choice outta college but looking back, with gas prices and how much it’s worth now, I don’t hate it
2020 VW Jetta
2007 Audi RS4
1991 Ferrari 348TS
1984 Mazda RX-7 Racecar
2017 Ford Raptor
Yes I’m a car guy. Funny enough I have net made money from these cars (kudos to the Ferrari really).
Safe to assume you keep them low mileage? Which was your favorite, have to assume the 348TS, although I could see the RX-7 being the winner,
No car at all and never had one. No need.
I'm more creative in spending money for fine wine
What color is your Bugatti?
Audi A6 form 2005 that probably costs me more in maintenance and gas with its V8 than the monthly payment on a Tesla.
guys, in what cities can and cannot you drive a low suspension car?
I'm planning to get my first car sometime over the next year and I like cars that look like sports cars, i.e. suspension is low. I'm wondering if it will be a problem now that I read some comments above.
Anywhere where it snows is gonna have shitty roads due to the salt I.e New York or Boston or Chicago. Phoeniz, AZ has some flat, perfect roads, I imagine LA is the same.
thanks man
Houston is atrociously terrible. I am very selective where I drive mine and I've actually scouted out places that I've never been to beforehand to make sure I can clear a parking lot. A nose lift is an absolute must here.
I had a C63S a while back that I bottomed out the front lip on and it was so bad that I had to get a new bumper. And a C63S isn't even that low.
2022 Lexus NX 350 and Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce
Sold my basic sedan when I moved for work, but I still have my mustang back home. Probably will get something fast and comfortable once I move out of the city. The bus is fine for now but I would love to get something like an Urus or GTC4 down the line.
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