Are you guys really okay with the state of NYC right now?

There are a lot of things I love about NYC, and then there's everything else. It should not be considered normal to have vagrant schizos shitting themselves on the subway or harassing old ladies or other passengers.

For anyone about to chime in, "but that's what all cities are like", no it isn't. Just stop it with that ignorance. NYC was not like that in the 1990s-2000s. I spent a decent amount of time there in Harlem (!!) in the late 2000s and never felt anything suspicious or unnerving, and now you have the good parts of town in Lower Manhattan or Midtown with behavior that should not be acceptable in a first world country. London, Tokyo are all big cities and don't have this kind of lunacy. NYC didn't used to have this kind of lunacy.

This shouldn't be a political issue. It shouldn't be a left or right issue to not want violent insane people running around public transit causing problems or shitting themselves. I'm a big guy and can handle myself, but it's not about me here. If you hate Trump, okay fine, go hate Trump. You're not sticking it to Trump by running NYC into the ground. You're not owning the evil Trump people by having a deteriorating quality of city life. NYC can do so much better, and I know this because it was better.

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NYC was going down the drain under Democratic leadership until Giuliani came in, followed by Bloomberg. As soon as that run was over, the Democrats turned the ship immediately back to the wrong course again.  

It boils down to a simple matter that Republicans run cities by rewarding those who will build the city . . cutting taxes and regulations, reducing crime etc . . and Democrats run cities by emptying the piggy bank to hand out goodies to public sector unions and (just for optics) a narrow subset of lower-income folks.

 

Dems in California once supported three strikes laws and similar which reduced crime. Gov Patterson was a Dem but wasn't soft on crime. This shouldn't be a political left-right issue. I don't want to see NYC making the same mistakes of San Francisco or the other west coast cities that went off the deep end. Except San Diego which actually is doing fairly decent.

 

Maple Sirup Slurper

Why is this guy on every WSO thread?💀😭🙏🏻

Why are you on any WSO thread? 

You’ll need more than maple syrup to live down the beating that the Hughes boys and Team USA put on you guys. 

Now shut your antisemitic trap.

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Dr. Rahma Dikhinmahas

NYC was going down the drain under Democratic leadership until Giuliani came in, followed by Bloomberg. As soon as that run was over, the Democrats turned the ship immediately back to the wrong course again.  

It boils down to a simple matter that Republicans run cities by rewarding those who will build the city . . cutting taxes and regulations, reducing crime etc . . and Democrats run cities by emptying the piggy bank to hand out goodies to public sector unions and (just for optics) a narrow subset of lower-income folks.

And not a single mention of closing the asylums, America's dysfunctional health care system, or the growing wealth gap. 

Might as well be a bot at this point. 

...but is it REPE?
 

He's an American conservative.  Given how detached from reality conservatives are, how incapable of discussing actual policy or basic facts, and the kneejerk response of defending their pedophiliac cult leader, this actually passes as coherent.

I mean, obviously fictional (NYC was better in the 90s?  Really?) but at least he can string full sentences together

 

Spot on - additionally, Bloomberg was an independent for 1/2+ of his stint as mayor, and a Democrat after. But of course Dr. Ram a Dick in My Ass isn’t intellectually honest enough to acknowledge that, he just implies that Bloomberg was a Republican by omission, ignoring that he was a non-Republican his entire life before and after that first election.

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As much as large corporation and billionare owned news networks want you to believe that it is all doom in NYC - the truth is NYC is objectively the safest it has been in decades. Reminder, if they cant get you to make a post like this and just check crime statistics - you wont watch Fox or the NYPost.

Is there alot of work to be done? Absolutely. Should we talk about the issues like Homelessness, Addiction, Cost of Living crisis - yes. But should we give in to billionare media moguls who manufacture crises? I think not. Its important to remember that over the last three decades America has consistently became a safer and safer place.

 

Crime stats lie all the time.  When an area becomes unsafe people just go out less, and less crime happens.  Reporting also goes down when people lose faith that reporting crime will matter.

Anyone who actually lives in NYC knows that its less safe.  Subjective observations aren't as easy to measure as objective data, but they're more accurate in a lot of other ways.

 

Hahahahhaa.

Stats are wrong!  My gut feeling is all that matters!

Ladies and gentlemen, the American right wing!  Don't bother collecting data or trying to make serious, fact-driven policy decisions.  Trust their gut!  And if you don't, they'll fucking murder you in cold blood for being a "domestic terrorist"

 

Anyone who lives in NYC knows that it isn't less safe lmao. It's definitely less well kept and you see more fucked up/gross shit but in terms of safety it's far from dangerous. The reality very much reflects the crime stats. People don't even get jumped and robbed like they used to. So many parts are gentrified. You can walk almost anywhere without fear. Seriously I can't believe people try to call it unsafe. That said we should clean up some stuff because the bar can always be higher but it is far from unsafe.

 
Controversial

No dude you're retarded. My opinion isn't informed by cable news or social media news. My opinion is informed by last few years personally getting degenerates get in my face on the subway and then having New Yorkers act like the lunatic is the REAL victim. Look you could cut the cost of housing to $1.00 and they'd still blow their money on drugs. These people don't think like you or I think and we need to stop pretending "oh it's just because luxury apartments in SoHo are expensive, that's why he's shitting himself and trying to fight smaller college girls"

Nobody thinks you're a badass or tough guy because you tolerate low quality of life.

 

JulianRobertson

No dude you're retarded. My opinion isn't informed by cable news or social media news. My opinion is informed by last few years personally getting degenerates get in my face on the subway and then having New Yorkers act like the lunatic is the REAL victim.

So you're opinion is informed by cable news.  Got it.

Your basic position is that you've been the victim of no violence and witnessed no violence, and yet somehow violence is an uncontrollable epidemic despite every available piece of data saying that violence and crime are at or near all-time lows?  Got it.

Look you could cut the cost of housing to $1.00 and they'd still blow their money on drugs. These people don't think like you or I think and we need to stop pretending "oh it's just because luxury apartments in SoHo are expensive, that's why he's shitting himself and trying to fight smaller college girls"

This is so laughably untrue that... well, wait, it is very much in keeping with the rest of this unbelievably stupid, uninformed post.  When homeless people get housing and supportive services, they rarely end up back on the street.  It's difficult to build enough and fund enough of that to make a dent in a city where the cost of living crisis is out of control and has been for a long time.

But hey, you're a Trump guy, right?  Get ICE in there to murder a few thousand or so, after all, "smelly" is basically a crime in your book, that should get the problem under control.

Nobody thinks you're a badass or tough guy because you tolerate low quality of life.

And nobody thinks you're a tough guy because you went on the internet to complain about the guy on the subway who smelled bad. 

You don't want a solution.  You simply want unpleasant things removed from your daily life.  Here's a thought - why don't you establish a network of highly secured camps where you can deposit "undesirables" who offend your delicate sensibilities and prejudices to get them out of your face.  Then maybe we could even have them work for the privilege of being imprisoned there!  And if they get out of line, we can make a point to those nasty liberals who want to ban gas stoves by setting up a GIANT gas oven and.... well, you know the rest, you've read the book.

 

Wouldn’t say London is a perfect example of how a city is being run, far from it. Both cities are facing similar issues of incompetent leadership and governance, quite sad to see given how nice they were to live in during the early 2000s

 

I lived there for almost 20 yrs lol, living in US for last 5 yrs so have gone back about once a year and idk at least from my perspective the city/country has noticeably gone downhill. Last time I went home was in November!

 

I’ll admit that the best spots to live in London outclass anywhere else in the world and I love em to bits (NH, Hampstead etc etc) I think that is j so hard for younger people to achieve a sustainable lifestyle nowadays in the city bc it’s so expensive and u j don’t get paid enough. Plus the job market is absolutely cooked so many graduates dont even get the chance to start work until it’s too late

 

Except rampant phone and watch theft isn't a thing in NYC like it is in london. People get robbed at the barber shop there just for wearing a rolex. Madness. So many coordinated crime groups scouting to rob people. You can wear one on the subway here and be fine.

 

In the 1970s and 80s entire swathes of the outer boroughs were barren. Parts of Mott Haven (what is now being called SoBro) looked like Tokyo or Dresden after the war. The area around the old WTC complex was a landfill. It was one of the most violent cities in the country, part of the increase in crime correlating with white flight during that era.

As of 2025, New York's violent crime rate is a fraction of that in 1991. It has actually decreased since 2019 iirc. This city is incredibly safe by American standards. It is significantly safer in Harlem now than it was in the 2000s, funny enough.

This is an issue tied more to the shambolic healthcare system in this country than the way City Hall handles crime: mental health and drug rehab are badly done in the US as opposed to your examples of the UK or Japan. Bringing back draconian justice measures for the mentally ill or drug addicts not only wouldn't solve your perceived crisis of public disturbances, but it'd make the city's prison system even more crowded.

 

I don't really care to provide them with mental health anymore, as if they just had a bad day and need to talk about their feelings. Yes I do support draconian measures because it's what works. I take it you don't travel much. Singapore, Dubai, Tokyo all very clean and safe because of strong policing. If Mamdani ends up freezing all the vagrants, he'd be the best mayor since LaGuardia and they should name an airport after him.

 

Hahahaha obvious ragebait is obvious. 

In all seriousness, it sounds like your mind was made up about this issue well before you posted about it, so I’m not sure why you felt the need to ask other people their opinion or thoughts save to reinforce your own. 

 

Yall need to join me in the suburbs when the time is right. No schizos on the corner threatening to cut off heads. No needles in the parks. I don’t even see dog shit on the ground, let alone human. Top notch public schools (and private as well, if you must). Yeah the commute isn’t ideal but you can get plenty of work done on the train.

NJ/CT/LI/Westchester is paradise.

 

Ability to use time on the train for work/entertainment is the unspoken game changer IMHO.  The true time lost living in the suburbs isn't anywhere near what it used to be.  

 

Buddy, if someone threw snowballs at cops in the 2000s nobody would give a fuck.  The fact that people throwing snowballs at cops is considered notable enough for the police commissioner to respond just shows that crime has decreased

 

No, we're not ok with it

but finance bros are a small % of the voter base

most of the voters are either:

welfare recipients living in public housing leaching off us

or trust fund transplants with daddy paying rent while they try to get their acting career off the ground

so until you can convince those people we need tough on crime sensible policies, we're stuck!

 

Until the crime surges in the YUPPIE/HENRY/Hip Areas of NYC where the transplants all reside, you won't see a change in how the city is run. Overall, NYCs problem can't be solved by who's in office (doesn't matter left or right, though Mamdani is speed running to ruin the city). It's an over population problem. The city is naturally going through an outflow migration and soon more jobs will leave the city. 

My theory is that after Covid, remote work showed that you can have your HQ be anywhere. I'm seeing sales territory shifting constantly because of this. High paying white collar jobs are leaving the city. The only reason they used to need to be in NYC is because of networking and infrastructure effects, where everything is already built and you used to have to meet people in person to do business. 

But now? A good chunk of it is through zoom or teams meetings. You meet key people at conferences. You do a lot of business online, and finalize or do big pushes with scheduled in person meetings when you absolutely must. 

Personally I have lost my love of NYC back in 2018. It used to be for us kids in South Brooklyn that you know you made it if you moved to the city and had a fancy job. Now? Idk. I go to the city and it drains me. There is no optimism. There is no longer that energy that we had when Bloomberg was the mayor. Now it's just a bunch of performative, incompetent, crook mayors and city council members that further ruin the city. 

 

Every major and great city in the US and heck even London/Paris have become filthy unsafe shitholes esp compared to the 1950s and 1960s. 

I see videos of businessmen and well dressed women walking these cities (Chicago, New Orleans, NYC, LA etc)  in the old days and realize we have all been born too late to experience what was a much more civilized society. 

Its just sad really. 

 

I'm willing to bet that person hasn't left the country much. 

"Compared to the 1950s and 1960s," my dude is 23 years old and needs to pipe down. If you don't even remember 9/11, I don't want to hear you talking about what you imagine the 1950s were like. 

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You don't turn into a lunatic from one day to the next. It's a progression and every new mistake you make doesn't sound as bad anymore because your situation is so dire. Maybe it's drugs, maybe it's a missed rent payment. Whatever it may be.

Particularly urban places are really unforgiving. You'll quickly end up on the street. I do believe in hard work but in a city like New York you just don't have any safety mechanism (like in London or in Tokyo) so the second you fuck up you're going to get funnelled into some very bad corners of the city. Those people accumulate and maybe even congregate. What happens if a group of mentally ill, drug addicted homeless people meet up to talk? Nothing good, I tell ya.

The US just doesn't have a proper welfare state. And the people that do work and don't rely on welfare, they usually barely scrape by (or not at all). Especially in a place like New York, just rent alone could make you go broke. Add to that a lack of cheap interstate transportation, and you're stuck in a place that's too expensive for you, no matter what you do.

In a way, it's also a symptom of excessive wealth inequality. Rich people come in, make life unbearably expensive, and drive out the natives from surrounding areas. Those natives try to survive until they break, and then have to stay for reasons mentioned above.

Basically what I'm trying to say, is that in order to find out what's going wrong in the city, you'd have to actually ask those people and understand what it is that happened that got them there. You'll have some reasons that will get repeated over and over again. Some things you'll be able to deal with as a state, some others you'll have communicate with the Federal Government with. Unfortunately, however, if the main reason is the cost of living, the political will to fix anything just won't be there. Rich people might just not use public transportation, so then the problem isn't in their vicinity anymore. It's much cheaper to simply go from A to B using Uber than to pay a substantially higher amount in taxes.

Rich people in the US used to feel a sense of responsibility for the public and their nation but that no longer seems to be the case. Particularly during and after the Milton Friedman/Ronald Reagan/Margaret Thatcher eras things just went off the rails. And remember also that dumbass "Greed is Good" movie called "Wall Street" in the late 80s. Gordon Gekko wasn't just some made up character, that guy was a depiction of the new age rich and powerful. Things only got worse since then.

 

Sharky286

Particularly urban places are really unforgiving. You'll quickly end up on the street. I do believe in hard work but in a city like New York you just don't have any safety mechanism (like in London or in Tokyo) so the second you fuck up you're going to get funnelled into some very bad corners of the city. Those people accumulate and maybe even congregate. What happens if a group of mentally ill, drug addicted homeless people meet up to talk? Nothing good, I tell ya.

I mean, one of the intractable parts of the problem is that people choose to live on the streets/subway.  NYC has a right to shelter law, every single homeless person could be in a shelter and not in the subway.  Now, those places are not exactly the Ritz, and there is apparently a lot of violence in the shelter system, so there is some degree of rationality in avoiding them.

But the issue comes when discussing what the solution is.  Obviously WSO conservatives think "hey, this person doesn't look or act like me, lets chuck them in a concentration camp or deport them or just outright murder them, problem solved!" but for those of us with empathy or respect for individual rights, imprisoning people simply because they make choices you disagree with and are malodorous isn't OK.


In a way, it's also a symptom of excessive wealth inequality. Rich people come in, make life unbearably expensive, and drive out the natives from surrounding areas. Those natives try to survive until they break, and then have to stay for reasons mentioned above.
 

Wealth inequality does not cause homelessness.  Nor does gentrification.  You're just as bad and unserious as the right wing people on this site, even if your particular flavor of it doesn't involve promoting child rape.

Basically what I'm trying to say, is that in order to find out what's going wrong in the city, you'd have to actually ask those people and understand what it is that happened that got them there. You'll have some reasons that will get repeated over and over again. Some things you'll be able to deal with as a state, some others you'll have communicate with the Federal Government with. Unfortunately, however, if the main reason is the cost of living, the political will to fix anything just won't be there. Rich people might just not use public transportation, so then the problem isn't in their vicinity anymore. It's much cheaper to simply go from A to B using Uber than to pay a substantially higher amount in taxes.

There is political will to fix the problem.  You simply cannot help someone who doesn't want to be helped.  Of the many tens of thousands of homeless people in NYC, the vast, vast majority ask for and receive help.  The exceptionally small number of people you see on the subway are generally suffering from mental illness or addiction.

Rich people in the US used to feel a sense of responsibility for the public and their nation but that no longer seems to be the case. Particularly during and after the Milton Friedman/Ronald Reagan/Margaret Thatcher eras things just went off the rails. And remember also that dumbass "Greed is Good" movie called "Wall Street" in the late 80s. Gordon Gekko wasn't just some made up character, that guy was a depiction of the new age rich and powerful. Things only got worse since then.

Well, yes.  Obviously.  A bunch of welfare queen Republicans suck on the teat of liberal enterprise and then bitch and moan about how the rich are out of touch.

 

I find it unfortunate that two people evaluated your opinion as "Inaccurate" though I personally found it to be informative. Let me go through every individual point.

Thank you for pointing out that NYC has such a law. I'm wondering why those places are so unsafe and violent? Any rational argument against living in such places should be dismantled by the state. At some point though, behaviour becomes intentional self-harm. Some of these people are factually insane. If there is no objective reason left to stay without shelter, then I think it should be okay to at least assess these people psychologically to see if they have some other issues going on. I wouldn't mind putting them into an Asylum for treatment. We put people into prisons for breaking laws and some people you unfortunately need to protect from themselves regardless of if they broke a law or not. I agree that just enacting more violence would very likely be a mistake.

I disagree with your claim that I'm just as bad as the contemporary conservative (or rather MAGA) types on this website. Caring about people generally and being open minded about discussing solutions without claiming absolute authority and full knowledge unfortunately puts me ahead of most people in the country generally. I don't believe that homelessness is caused by only one thing. Rarely is anything ever caused by only one thing. I do believe, however, that very many people are simply bidded out of the market by people who can afford much more than them. New York City is very in-demand, and simply building more isn't really an option. So then it all depends on what is affordable to whomever wants to pay. If you have gigantic discrepancies in what people can afford, some people simply won't ever be able to live there. I'm also not saying that this will definitely lead to someone becoming homeless, but that it could lead to that for some people. I also don't think this can be solved by simply taking from the rich and giving to the poor or something like that. I do think though that it's a symptom of an institutional failure. So I'm more interested in the process that leads to this, I would argue, societally unsustainable outcome which I don't believe is even in the interest of the rich (which I'm sure would prefer to be slightly less rich and in return not fear violence when outside). This discrepancy is also not monocausal but we need to ask questions such as why salaries aren't keeping up with productivity gains. Maybe it's a lack of employee protections, a lack of bargaining power by workers, or somehow a symptom of QE or a combination of all? Who knows, but I think there's clearly something wrong with the formal or informal rules that run society, judging by the outcomes we see and dislike.

Can one call the police to get these mentally ill people some help? Why should mentally ill people that pose a threat to society not get institutionalized? Why put the public and the person in need at risk of things such as physical harm if a mental illness is truly present? Also wondering what the state of mental healthcare is for people that are below a certain income? Nonexistent I'm guessing?

I must admit I don't understand your last sentence.

Thank you for your response. I like the information you provided but please don't put me into some category. I'm just one individual and I'm aware that I have my limitations. I'm interested more so in solutions than implementing some ideological wish list.

 

This is fucking laughable.  Anyone whose take is "NYC was not like this in the 90s" should be carted off to an asylum.  I mean, tell me you've never set foot in NYC without telling me.  I'm old enough to remember the squeegee men, even if your fantasy of NYC in the 90s has conveniently edited them out.  NYC is far safer and cleaner than it was in the 90s.

There are a lot of things I love about NYC, and then there's everything else. It should not be considered normal to have vagrant schizos shitting themselves on the subway or harassing old ladies or other passengers.

Right, well most metro areas in the United States don't have well functioning subways in the first place.  It's certainly a commonplace sight in most places to see "vagrant schizos" shitting themselves under a bridge - you just happen to be isolated from it's immediate impact because you're in a car.

This shouldn't be a political issue. It shouldn't be a left or right issue to not want violent insane people running around public transit causing problems or shitting themselves.

And your solution is what?  To imprison anyone who smells bad?  You are far, far, far less likely to be the victim of violence perpetrated by a homeless person on the subway than you are to get into a car accident.  Should we ban car ownership?  Fundamentally, there isn't an easy solution.

You're not sticking it to Trump by running NYC into the ground. You're not owning the evil Trump people by having a deteriorating quality of city life. NYC can do so much better, and I know this because it was better.

I'm not sure what the relevance of this is.  Simply projecting the pettiness of Mr Trump onto his political opponents doesn't somehow make it true.

You clearly have some fantasy world in which you're living (so, you're a typical conservative) in which your political preferences determine what you do and don't remember.

 

Ozymandia

This is fucking laughable.  Anyone whose take is "NYC was not like this in the 90s" should be carted off to an asylum.  I mean, tell me you've never set foot in NYC without telling me.  I'm old enough to remember the squeegee men, even if your fantasy of NYC in the 90s has conveniently edited them out.  NYC is far safer and cleaner than it was in the 90s.

There are a lot of things I love about NYC, and then there's everything else. It should not be considered normal to have vagrant schizos shitting themselves on the subway or harassing old ladies or other passengers.

Right, well most metro areas in the United States don't have well functioning subways in the first place.  It's certainly a commonplace sight in most places to see "vagrant schizos" shitting themselves under a bridge - you just happen to be isolated from it's immediate impact because you're in a car.

This shouldn't be a political issue. It shouldn't be a left or right issue to not want violent insane people running around public transit causing problems or shitting themselves.

And your solution is what?  To imprison anyone who smells bad?  You are far, far, far less likely to be the victim of violence perpetrated by a homeless person on the subway than you are to get into a car accident.  Should we ban car ownership?  Fundamentally, there isn't an easy solution.

You're not sticking it to Trump by running NYC into the ground. You're not owning the evil Trump people by having a deteriorating quality of city life. NYC can do so much better, and I know this because it was better.

I'm not sure what the relevance of this is.  Simply projecting the pettiness of Mr Trump onto his political opponents doesn't somehow make it true.

You clearly have some fantasy world in which you're living (so, you're a typical conservative) in which your political preferences determine what you do and don't remember.

The dude could not have possibly lived or worked in NYC in the 1990s. If he did, he would know that NYC in 2026 is far safer and appealing in general than in the 1990s.  I worked in downtown NYC is the 1990s and I can tell you that it had an industrial 9-5 feel to it.  It was a ghost town after 5pm and on weekends and probably somewhat unsafe  The adjacent areas like Brooklyn were also not very nice .  Today, downtown NYC has become very upscale and so has Brooklyn. 

 

JulianRobertson

Somebody just ban this guy. This piece of trash isn't worth a response. You can look up his old threads, he was saying Charlie Kirk deserved to get shot, he's just a radical who probably doesn't even work in finance

Fuck you, go away.

What a surprise, the guy who thinks NYC was "better" in the 90s also makes shit up about what other people say.

I get that if you were an honest person, you wouldn't believe the things you do, but maybe put a touch more effort into the mendacity?  This shit is pretty easy to spot.

Now run along like the little coward you are.

EDIT: No shit I no longer work in finance.  I do something with actual utility and value.

 

Where have you seen vagrants shitting on a train or harassing old ladies?

I'm gotta start by lightening the mood here. Once seen bunch of little kids on the F train - probably kindergarteners on a field trip with their teacher. They were so loud but watching them talk and be curious about everything around them was one of the most adorable things I've seen. It was only the second most adorable to the thought of being mauled by an army of puppies and kittens. Really made me wish I had a gazillion kids (and a puppy or a kitten for each kid...).

Anyways... My experience has been very mixed based on the time and location. Usually seen weirder stuff on odd days in lower manhattan, midtown, and god forbid Bushwick but not much elsewhere. 

Honestly, the thing I dislike the most is regular people who somehow got so mentally unhealthy coming to my neighborhood or other nice neighborhoods I like on Fridays ruining the vibe by being super cliquey and being suspicious of everyone they don't know that tries to talk to them. Like not everyone is out to get you and I don't see why some people have to try to infect others with their nastiness.

I'm from a very safe city and no one actually cares as long as you're clearly not a danger to yourself or others. It's actually kinda fun and endearing to see people let loose and not worry about others.

JFC, once got drunk in Williamsburg just having a good time laughing and smiling but half the people around me looked miserable and had this terrible frown on their faces. The other half kept asking me if I was ok and if I needed help. I tried to talk to some of them and they visibly got so angry at me and started screaming for no reason. One of them came back 15 mins later and even stepped on my foot. And then some Asian girl started ranting racist shit about "white people". 

Saving grace was there was literally one dude who was like "bro, you clearly having a great time, take a beer on me". We need more people like this dude. 

Long story short, you guys gotta take it easy. Spread LOVE NOT HATE. Don't make war, make LOVE. Ya feel? Peace out bros.

When in doubt, use more peanut butter
 

Skittled

It’s very clear which one or two demographic is/are ruining the city. It’s the ones that are blasting reggae music on the subway with their karaoke boxes on Christmas, the ones who rob/fight/piss/smoke everywhere, the doordash people going any way but the correct right of way, the people holding doors open at Dunkin’ and pressure you to tip them, the ones who talk on speakerphone and watch Instagram out loud on the subway, the ones with way too much perfume.

Then we just need to redirect the funds to upgrading the subway, improve trash management, and reduce air pollution.

lmao. just move out the hood bro

 

howtomakeitinamerica

Skittled

It’s very clear which one or two demographic is/are ruining the city. It’s the ones that are blasting reggae music on the subway with their karaoke boxes on Christmas, the ones who rob/fight/piss/smoke everywhere, the doordash people going any way but the correct right of way, the people holding doors open at Dunkin’ and pressure you to tip them, the ones who talk on speakerphone and watch Instagram out loud on the subway, the ones with way too much perfume.

Then we just need to redirect the funds to upgrading the subway, improve trash management, and reduce air pollution.

lmao. just move out the hood bro

But what pray tell will you do when there is nowhere but hood to move to?

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"You Fox News stans don't get it and need to touch grass (we have none), the poopy streets and homeless piss crates in the tunnels are the best they've ever been! Have you even tried the corner stand shawarma at 2am?" 😂

Enjoy the imminent property tax increase fellas!

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Popped into see some 🐀s aggressively defend their cage, was not disappointed.

"You Fox News stans don't get it and need to touch grass (we have none), the poopy streets and homeless piss crates in the tunnels are the best they've ever been! Have you even tried the corner stand shawarma at 2am?" 😂

Enjoy the imminent property tax increase fellas!

One would think with the current state of things I could buy a nice condo at a reasonable price but people still seem willing to pay ~$1mm+ for a studio apartment. 

 

I would argue NYC real estate is probably among the top 5 largest instances of money laundering in the world. London as well. 

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NYC is  city and cities have poverty with a wealth gap that increased over time.  The simple solution for anyone who lives or works in NYC and does not like it, is to move somewhere else.  Ranting about poor people on WSO is not going to resolve your issue. 

I suspect that most people including the op have never experienced NYC in the 80s and 90s when it had high crime and a 9-5 existence.  Downtown NY was a ghost town after hours and on weekends.  Lots of money has been spent to improve living in the downtown town area.  The immediate areas near the city have also improved quite a bit.  

 

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My gut tells me that New York City has fewer homeless people than even a small town in a red state.  Prove me wrong without using evidence or statistics.  Hah ha!

Even though it's bait, I'll answer just cuz. New York City has a homeless population the size of a mid-size city. A not small percentage of them belong in insane asylums, not walking around in public shitting in corners and pushing people in front of trains. Having a police force that could be one of the largest military forces on the planet makes this inexcusable. 

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"If you don't have any enemies in life you have never stood up for anything" - Winston Churchill | "It's a testament to the sheer belligerence of the profession that people would rather argue about the 'risk-adjusted returns' of using inferior tooth cleaning methods." - kellycriterion
 

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Ozymandia

My gut tells me that New York City has fewer homeless people than even a small town in a red state.  Prove me wrong without using evidence or statistics.  Hah ha!

Even though it's bait, I'll answer just cuz. New York City has a homeless population the size of a mid-size city. A not small percentage of them belong in insane asylums, not walking around in public shitting in corners and pushing people in front of trains. Having a police force that could be one of the largest military forces on the planet makes this inexcusable. 

Edit: Meant to reply to @Ozymandia, wild how glitchy this interface is lately

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Part of the issue in NYC is an extreme wealth gap.  Wealth is probably more concentrated in NYC than most other cities.  Lots of very high income earners drive up prices on lots of goods and services, which probably effects affordability for people. The federal government should put some money into healthcare instead of using our money to start wars. 

 

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I suspect that most people including the op have never experienced NYC in the 80s and 90s when it had high crime and a 9-5 existence.  Downtown NY was a ghost town after hours and on weekends.  Lots of money has been spent to improve living in the downtown town area.  The immediate areas near the city have also improved quite a bit.  

"it's not as bad as the 80s and 90s" isn't an accomplishment... NYC didn't fully phase out leaded gasoline until the mid 90s, of COURSE it's not as bad as it was when there was literal poison in the air that made people crazy violent. It's still one of the worst maintained cities in the modern era when you consider COL and taxation vs what you're getting in return. Anyone who thinks it's not hasn't been to any 1st world city with a population over 1m in the last decade+. Their budget is the size of the ENTIRE state of Florida which has 3x as many people for god's sake. 

"If you don't have any enemies in life you have never stood up for anything" - Winston Churchill | "It's a testament to the sheer belligerence of the profession that people would rather argue about the 'risk-adjusted returns' of using inferior tooth cleaning methods." - kellycriterion
 

I get what you’re saying. NYC definitely feels different than it did 10–20 years ago, especially on the subway. Some of it is probably the after-effects of COVID, mental health issues, and less consistent policing.

That said, big cities tend to go through cycles. NYC has had rough periods before and then bounced back. I still think the city has the potential to improve again, but it probably requires serious focus on public safety, mental health support, and maintaining standards in public spaces.

 

It was pretty good in the 1990s-2000s. Fully aware it had a rough patch after the Civil Rights days and the associated political/racial violence. But the ones saying "but but but all big cities are like that, I'm so cool because I'm not like the home town people in the suburb that I grew up in, it's like I'm living in THE WIRE or SNOWFALL, WOW SO COOL", please grow up.

 

I hear you — city life can definitely swing wildly depending on the area and times. NYC has so many great things going for it, but public safety and maintaining basic civility really make a difference in how enjoyable it is to live and work there.

It’s interesting to see how automation and technology are being used in various industries to handle repetitive or high-risk tasks — I read an article about AI call agents and business process automation recently, and it made me think about how some city services could also use tech to improve efficiency and safety without replacing the human element.

 

Personally, I don’t think NYC has gotten out of control.  

The homeless people near by work just hang out with each other and don’t bother random people in the street.  The neighborhoods with real crime are getting smaller and further away from the parts of the city anyone on here would visit (Brownsville, University Heights, etc.).  I can visit and live in places that used to be very dangerous that are now filled with 20 something college grads.

That being said, I don’t work in Midtown where the worst of the homeless problem allegedly is, and I am a man so I probably get harassed less than a woman.  So I understand others might have it worse

 

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