Objective College Rankings post NDvGU thread
The Notre Dame vs Georgetown thread caused a lot of chaos, shedding much-needed light on both schools, so I thought it was necessary to update the official college ranking tier list.
- Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Wharton, MIT, Stanford
- UChicago, Duke, Cornell, Dartmouth, Columbia
- Brown, Notre Dame, Northwestern
- Georgetown, Stern, Ross, Berkeley
- UNC, UVA, UT Austin, Vanderbilt
I know it must hurt to see your school downgraded, but remember that BBs/EBs are not the end all be all! There are tons of other options in MM IB/PWM/ER, or even consulting! Good luck everyone in the upcoming recruiting season.
I think Cornell might belong in the tier below, but otherwise stellar list
Congrats on Berkeley, sorry about UVA
lol got to MS from a SEC school.
Hey I’m just happy to make this one (go heels)
Go heels. I go there too and it's great. Good mix of fun + academics
Great list. I think Ross might deserve a bump higher
not after losing to TCU. national embarrassment
Who’s your plug? Im tryna get what your smoking
Notre Dame kid is salty that he got embarrassed on the other thread lmao so now kid is creating this.
Pathetic. Bring on the monkey shit lol
Point me to where I got “embarrassed” on that thread
Ratio'd 32:4 is pretty embarrassing. So is creating a new thread and titling it "objective" right after losing an argument to someone online.
Creating that thread was an embarrassment, and everyone who argued about it in the thread also embarrassed themselves
How are you gonna call that thread a Georgetown "win" at all? I didn't see a single thought-out, coherent argument made in favor of Georgetown. Congrats on GU tho bud.
Ain't no way this kid felt the need to make a new thread to make himself feel better about ND 💀💀💀.
I can see above ND above T5, but above Stern/Ross/Berkeley, and on par with Brown/Northwestern is delusional.
GU kids come rolling in… get back to your investing clubs sweating technicals
Academically, I'd agree. Placement wise though, ND>NU & Berkeley.
Princeton is overrated
Where does Emory fall in this?
5th row
It's 2023 and I'm not sure how Brown is still an elite university lol. UChicago and Duke >>>>>>Brown
Does being worse than UChicago and Duke make you not an elite university? Not to mention I know more than one person who took Brown over UChicago.
probably bc brown is a fun school. Preferences of school =\= student qualify or job outcomes. At the end do the day, negligible differences here. Lifestyle/fit are way more important.
If this is a placement tier, Stern places tier 1. People actually in the industry know it’s a top 3 repd school at every bank on the street.
Cornell is a tier too high. They’re right there with Brown in the “thank goodness the Ivy League is a sports conference” gang
I don’t get the Cornell slander. Cornell probably belongs in the last spot of that tier but Cornell places about as well as any of those schools as more of a STEM school. Reputation is a little worse because USNews underrates the shit out of Cornell (and Brown too) but it’s a strong school with successful alumni.
Sorry about the Georgetown rejection
The only person who would think that GU is misplaced here is a person who went there. I think GU kids live on WSO because I had never heard it considered as a top school before coming onto this website
Possibly, however I see way more MF PE SA and sophomore BB internships go to Georgetown kids than ND. Maybe it’s a more diverse school and that skews the numbers, but GU’s placement is hard to beat outside of HYPW. I think they belong in the same tier, with GU maybe a touch higher.
Don't get me wrong for Wall Street GU is a great school but the way people consider it hyper prestigious here is wild. Before I came here I honestly thought it was at the same level as WashU, UCLA, Emory, Michigan, USC type of schools
Would combine 2/3 and move Ross up and this list would make sense. Or alternatively, be honest and have tier one, the last tier, and everything else in the middle because no one is hair splitting Northwestern and Ross or brown and Dartmouth. They are all just great schools and candidate resume will matter more.
Congrats on Ross and Northwestern!
For clarity, I was saying Ross =northwestern, Dartmouth=brown. Both are schools in the same region, similar pedigree, etc.
Separately though, US news and finance recruitment would both have northwestern above brown, so find it odd you’d go after that comparison. My broader point though is no one is hairsplitting #13 and #12 on us news or which school sends more alumni. Size of school, region, culture, etc are all going to affect number of alumni in finance jobs and just because a school sends more finance hardos to banks doesn’t mean a candidate from brown wouldn’t be lights out. These schools all have thousands of kids, how stupid do you have to be to think employers cast a wide blanket on any institution that has by any objective standards some of the smartest people in the country attending. If you hire or work anywhere you realize smart people all have unique stories and come from all over.
Would tier 6 be UF, Kelley, and other above-average state schools?
Yeah if I did college all over again I'd go to places like Stanford or any of the UC's. Notre Dame and UMich offer you the same education as any Ivy League, except their sports teams are actually relevant. This is no debate I mean just say to yourself in the mirror "people who go to Harvard are smarter than other people" and you'll immediately see how retarded that sounds
I think people that went to Harvard were smarter than people who went to places like ND and Michigan back in the 80s when admissions were meritocratic, but now to get into HYP you need a sob story to get in. So I think there are a lot of people at ND and Michigan who are smarter than the average person at Harvard but were unwilling to stoop that low to get in
Assuming this is finance specific, otherwise Wharton doesn't belong in T1. HYPMS are the clear top 5 to most people when looking at the schools as a whole.
Holy fuck who gives a shit
Duke should go on tier 3
Forgot Emory and USC 5th row.
It’s common knowledge that the Kelley IBW clears all of these. It’s a top target guys!
Sorry to hear about Georgetown
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