How do you handle heavy personal stress?
So everyone knows that banking is a high stress environment. When it comes to cranking out 80, 90,100 hours a week it may be a little bit more difficult to stay connected to the ones you love let alone allow stress from back home to affect you. However, life happens and sometimes tragic things occur. So, how do you deal? I ask because there are two people close to me terminally ill. As science and life currently stands, they have at most a few years....
You fap to cancer? I am not amused.
As far as friends/relatives with terminal illnesses....all you can do is stay in touch and visit them. Don't let that time go by, you'll regret it later. Try to talk about more than just superficial things while they're still here. Sorry to hear about that, by the way.
I have a close friend who is doing FT I-banking in New York right now and he says that he tries to hit the gym, drink alcohol, and tries to eat healthy to reduce some of the stress and pressure.
Eating healthy & exercising & staying hydrated alleviate a lot of the physical symptoms of stress. After that it's finding a way to "turn off your brain" for a bit, so whatever works to that end for you.
Hakuna Matata - it means no worries. These two words solve all my problems. When life gets stressful, I just think Hakuna Matata.
Exercise, eat well and get some social life on the weekends
Knivek is a jerk. I went through this very same thing last year and it's real tough. I was surprised at what a positive effect exercising really does have. It's easy to say to just not worry about it, but you most likely will. The dilemma of course is dealing with this while trying to stay on the right career track. I came to the conclusion that I would not allow to effect work and studying, but did realize that it was not something that I could avoid and made time to at least speak to the person once a week. Try to stay optimistic and realize that it is only something you will be dealing with briefly. It sucks to lose people, especially multiple people, but the last thing you want it to do is screw up your life long term. My mother lost both of her parents within a year and is just now coming out a depression that she had been in for close to a decade. It's no way to live, especially when you're young and it can screw up the rest of your life. Try to keep as many positive things in your life to attempt to counterbalance it all.
Thanks for sharing. I hope that things are gradually getting better for you. I'm also sorry to hear that your mom suffered so long.
It seems like the consensus is to exercise. So I will have to find something that works for me.
Thanks everyone, with the exception of the HORRIBLE excuse of a troll and whoever decided to SB him.
Do anything you're passionate about - something to look forward to. It doesn't really matter what it is, as long as it doesn't cause you more stress long term or takes a lot of time. Sounds really trite, but it works.
I'm sticking to the points i can actually contribute knowledge on (health/food, not hrs/workload). So first things first: Eating well is hard as shit. Like, really recockulously hard for many, especially when one makes enough money that worrying about how much food costs isn't an issue, but how fast they can get it is.
I would say that for starters, find a bunch of easy/fast things to eat for various meals (even if they are kind of boring) to build up a "quick-meal" habit. I.E. Subway, salad bar at wholefoods/anywhere really, great turkey cobb salad from place across the street. So at least one meal a day when you inevitably go "fuck i need food" you have a go-to. Cuts down on the wondering of "Hmm what to eat to day...fries. My body needs fries. It's science."
Just keep adding to this list as you find things to eat that are mainly real ingredients, no frying/sauces/marinades/etc. The second part is to pick a drawer in your desk & stuff it with healthy food. Granola bars, small jar of peanut butter, couple packets of tuna (just force it down, no one actually likes tuna), mixed nuts w/ dried berries.
It also helps to keep a lunch box in the fridge w/ greek yogurt/cheese sticks/sandwich stuff. "Cheese sticks are for kids" No, a cheese stick is like 60-80 calories & 4-6 grams of protein in like 4 bites. Then chug water. Always have a glass of water next to you.
Hope some of that helps. Nothing really new there, people also don't even notice that I'm always eating stuff i brought vs. going out to eat everyday after the first week.
First of all, I'm sorry to hear about your situation. It can be very hard to balance work with family, especially in investment banking where the balance is fairly lopsided.
Secondly, with regards to maintaining/developing some of emotional stability, I'd recommend the following:
don't drink excessively. This'll drain you physically, which could leave you overly exhausted at work thereby increasing your dissatisfaction with the job because you have that much less time to spend with your family.
talk to your staffer and VPs and ask how they can help balance. I've seen analysts go through tough times and they were able to attend personal obligations because they were upfront with their VPs/staffer. It helps manage expectations. I understand banking is banking, but there are two things to consider: Chances are, your VPs and staffer/BUM (GS) are married and have families of their own so they should understand.
following on the above point, it'll give you more reason to start saying "no" to staffings.
exercise. This is so important - helps provide you with mental clarity, which a lot of associates and analysts lose because they work so hard.
be as efficient as possible. Don't go out for lunch - eat at the desk. Do whatever you can to finish your assignments early so you have extra time to speak with your family and/or visit them if they are close by.
Sorry again about your situation and I hope this helps.
Not in banking, but my job is nevertheless stressful. Have to work in the weekend so hours are close to bankers'. I notice you are female so I will offer you some girls talk and hope it help:
Sooner or later you will realize that death is inevitable. In fact, 'death exists, not as the opposite but as a part of life. By living our lives, we nurture death.' So learn to accept and appreciate it, as much as you appreciate life.
Spend time with the beloved ones. Visit them, call them, etc whenever you have time.
Indulge yourself a bit. How can one release the stress by living like a monk? Just do anything to kill that stress and ignore the guilt.
Good luck.
Work Life Imbalance (Originally Posted: 05/16/2011)
How do you cope with your work life imbalance in the finance industry? Is it worth it?
Things that help: - Get plastered with good friends - Have sex (this is the best medicine for stress by far) - Intense exercise - Sharing a bottle of wine with good friends - Spend time with family and loved ones
In general, just do enjoyable stuff with people you care about. I'm sure you feel like being alone on your free time but really make an effort to spend time with friends and family. Just talking about something else with do wonders. In your case, you should spend time with the two people in question as well as other people in your life who are close to them.
Hope this helps, I'm really sorry to hear about your situation.
You don't really cope, you mostly just try to survive. The bottom line is, investment banking takes over your life for 2 years, that's the tradeoff you make. In exchange, they write you a (relatively) big check.
There are lots of threads on here that go into tricks of the trade (make sure you workout, catch a nap in a bathroom stall, keep a change of clothes at the office) as well as whether or not it's worth it (most college kids typically think it is, most experienced professionals are split 50/50).
Randomly throw monkey shit at people who disagree with me and taunt homeless people by saying they will never get out of the back office.
This has been discussed ad nauseum.
http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/is-it-worth-it-3
This has been discussed ad nauseum.
http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/is-it-worth-it-3[/quote]
The thread talks about if it is worth it, but doesn't talk about how people cope with the work life imbalance.
Still a decent topic to talk about.
definitely not worth it
Get a SA position or any boutique IB internship then you can decide if it's "worth it" or not.
Just grind it out. Realize that you will miss out on dumb shit, but having 2 years of banking on your resume springboards you onto a lot of greater things. Plenty of people working themselves to the bone making a fraction of what you are making. Put things in perspective and advance forward.
And like I always say: if you can't hack it, there's line of people just waiting to replace you.
How do you manage your stress level? (Originally Posted: 06/13/2013)
I was just curious about how you guys handle stress from working those long hours...
Gym? Sleep? Food? Spoiling yourself? Bottles? Meditation? or just suck it up?
It depends on what the source of stress is.
You can manage your stress by treating yourself. Treating yourself to what?
Clothes - TREAT YASELF Fragrances - TREAT YASELF Massages - TREAT YASELF Mimosas - TREAT YASELF Fine leather goods - TREAT YASELF
You left out sex.
Are you a woman? That is a serious question...
I'm not a woman. I am a man who watches Parks & Recreation.
I guess stress from working so many hours and the pressure you put on yourself to be better and stuff.
You are quoting the wrong character then...
Materialism.
I didn't think of an applicable Ron Swanson quote. This one was more applicable. Get the sand out of your pussy.
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working out and trying to catch up on sleep. drinking makes it worse imo
I'm trying to eat healthy, f.e. granola with fruits, yoghurt and nuts with an orange juice for breakfast (all provided in the office). Then some random stuff for lunch (no fast food) and a big salad for dinner. Eating good makes me feel pretty good, so that works for me.
In addition to that, I'm hitting the gym on the weekend and I'm also trying to go for a short run while hearing Bloomberg (15 minutes or so) before work once or twice a week. I know that 15 minutes are pretty useless in terms of fat burning etc., but it still helps me to start off my day and to feel better.
Moreover, I usually spend some time surfing the web, checking facebook, watching the news (as well as sports news) to keep sane after I left the office. I just need some time to unplug and want to know what's going on outside of my cubicle, even if it is 2am.
Lastly, I'm trying to go out on Friday or Saturday night (only once though, I want to catch up on sleep on the other night) to meet some friends and talk about some non-work related stuff.
Although the first year is pretty hard and I'm getting crushed every once in a while, I'm feeling quite ok, so it seems to work (at least for me).
Handling the stress (Originally Posted: 05/29/2010)
Hoping to hear from some of the more senior members that were or still are trading (esp. prop)--I'm talking to you Edmundo and others:
How do/did you guys handle the stress day-to-day on the job? A couple of my friends are in trading at prop MM firms (think Optiver-type place) and I will likely be doing the same here soon. While both love the job, they have said it is incredibly stressful during the day, pretty much every day, and that seeing your PnL constantly (aka seeing how much you are or are not earning) along with harsh bosses makes it very stressful. As a person coming from a bit of a poker playing background, my heart still gets racing in big hands and takes me a long time to calm down. When I go from dealing with maybe hundreds of dollars at a time in poker to millions at a time (this particular firm gives people a lot of freedom after 6mo) in a job I could lose on any given day, it seems like it will be even tougher.
Any advice/wisdom/insight/etc. on the topic?
here's what you do: after a bad day at work you go to a bar get real drunk and start walking home. go into the street and when you see a car's headlight stand in front of it and close your eyes; let it happen. when you survive and find yourself a paraplegic in a wheelchair, put an ad in the newspaper to find someone who looks exactly like you, same height, same face shape, race, same everything. the two of you will sign a contract, exchange ids, and at work he pretends he is you and you stay at home in your wheel chair preparing bags of your urine and blood in case he needs to be drug tested.
he makes the dough, you bang the hos. no stress
Gattaca???
Actually, more like the hos bang you. Also make sure there's something in his past that precludes him from getting the job on his own.
oh shoot forgot the Fordham mba requirement, good catch.
See I tried that and I'm STILL concerned about stress on the job. I just got a bottle of summer wheat instead of honey dawn for your hair, PJC. I can't stand these fucking flatfoots.
i go home and spend time with my family.. take a warm shower and get a good night rest... then come in and try to take my pound of flesh...again..
honestly it helps knowing that you don't need the job. Ever since my family inheritance has kicked in my stress levels have plummeted..and my comparative PnL improved :)
This is very true as well. As soon as I reached a level where I didn't really need to do it anymore, the stress slacked way off. Getting there was a bitch, though (no rich relatives in my family).
Do what all the scrubs on CNBC do, "FUCK THOSE QUANTS MADE ME LOSE ON MY POSITIONS I DIDN'T EVALUTE CORRECTLY THOSE HIGH FREQUENCY FUCKERS".
I'll answer the question, but don't take this as any kind of recommended course of action.
I was pretty much drunk all the time.
As soon as the market closed (and often a couple hours before), I'd hit the bottle pretty hard. Every day. I'd wake up the next morning feeling like death, down a bunch of Maalox, and go swing the bat. Friday afternoons were a blur, and I was usually fall-down wasted by about 8 pm.
I really tip my hat to monty09 if spending time with family helps him unwind; it sounds like you've got it figured out, bro. Spending time with family when I was trading (which basically consisted of my 2nd wife and her train wreck of a clan) was even more stressful than the market. If I could disappear inside a dark bar, I was in my happy place.
growing up with a single father(ex marine) made me eat dinner with him every night at dining table. We would talk about our day and plans for next day... set a goal so we would both be working to get better every day. fast forward 20 years and I sit down my family every night at dining table and talk about our day and goals for next.... its funny cause when a 11 year old if giving you advice its usually pretty frank and often times spot on..
i know what you guys mean about the alcohol, those dark irish watering holes really make me feel secure as well. but its not a viable out.. find a sport or something to unwind once in a while.
Yeah, you're right. I've got a nuclear family now and we sit around the dinner table every night. Wouldn't trade it for anything. But that wasn't me when I was trading.
its some good stuff man... those dinner table times can not be taken away
What about for guys that don't have families yet?
even when I didnt have a family I was the same..worked , came home and did my thing.. never get too high or too low...
Handling stress is very important because if you get to stressed out it can seriously effect decision-making. Dealing with stress is a skill just like any other and you can get better at it through practice.
The first thing you need to do is to be prepared before you put on a trade...if you have good confidence in a trade due to solid research, have the trade sized properly and responsibly, and have a plan of where to stop the trade when it goes against you or when to remove it if it goes in your favor then you really dont need to have a lot to stressed about. Whatever happens wil happen but you have prepared in the right way and have a plan no matter what so there is no need to be stressed out.
If you are still stressed out despite good pre-trade preperation then you need to think bout why exactly you are stressed out. If you feel alot of stress but are confident in your trades and the way you are managing them then you just have to learn to deal with that stress. Mentally acknowledge that you are feeling stressed out, and move on with your day. Eventually with experience you will not feel stressed out in situations like this and they will become normal. Its a bit like weight lifting...every time I get more capital and my trade sizes go up i feel stressed for a period of time and then the new size becomes normal. However, sometimes stress can be a good indicator that you are doing something wrong...is this trade to big? ...is my stop set in the right place? is the idea sound? etc should all be questions you think about. You need to seriously think about why you are stressed and if the stress is a sign that you are doing something irresponsible then take off the trade.
Lastly, sometimes things will go against you for periods of time even when your doing the right stuff and you will get stressed out. It is important to do things like exercise, try to get sleep, etc. even when things are going against you. A good NFL cornerback dosent get fazed after he's been burned for a touchdown and a good trader needs to be the same way. Going out and getting drunk or locking yourself in ur apartment everytime you have a really good or a really bad run is not a way to have a long and profitable career. I used to do this and it is immature and stupid...it really just ensures that along with stressed out you will be tired and hung over the next day. My goal is to have nobody be able to tell whether I am having a great day, a bad day, or something in between...this includes everyone from the guy sitting next to me to my girlfriend.
The whole point is that as long as you are sticking to your plan then you should recognize but not be phased by a little bit of natural stress. If the stress is a sign that you are doing something wrong then you need to address that issue. Keep your routine consistent so that stress dosent snowball and affect your decision-making.
Great advice (especially that first part). Thanks!
how do you keep healthy with the hours (Originally Posted: 11/07/2007)
Will be going into banking next year when I graduate. I do not want to be bald, I want to be in shape (not fat), I don't want to look pale and tired, and I don't want to look aged.
I am thinking that just eating healthy (no greasy stuff), drinking in moderation (or not at all), no substances, and moderate gym workouts when I am not too tired will do the trick.
How do you guys do it? most bankers I've met during the recruiting process look like crap, and I don't want that to happen to me.
I will be an associate, not analyst. I assume that my hours will be better..
Sleep deprivation affects us all - you cannot fight that.
As an incoming associate your hours will not be better - at least for the frst 6 months or so you won't even be staffed with an analyst and even once you do get analysts, you'll still be pulling equally miserable hours.
Most banks, especially right when you start, frown upon going to the gym during the day and you won't have time at night. It's not even so much that the food you eat is bad, and on seamless it surely is, it's that there is so much of it and that you sit on your ass all day. On your weekends, even as an associate who works slightly less, you probably won't have the energy to goto the gym or do much beside catch up on all the normal living stuff that you didn't do during the week.
Look at any MD in the banks you apply to and guess their age. Then take off at least 5 to 10 to get to the right one.
I box, so I'll be putting a boxing bag in my place... in my bedroom if necessary. Just get some weights or a treadmill in your place so you can get a quick 20 min workout before shuteye.
In the morning if my face is a little puffy I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
But of course, you're a VP in M&A, so you have the time to do it.
PowerMonkey - it's kind of interesting, actually. Nowadays a VP in M&A at any top firm would obviously have a shitty-ass life, but back in the Patrick Bateman days, hours in IB were actually okay.
Bankers weren't as desperate for clients; they didn't go on 10 different pitches with the hopes of getting signed to 1 deal. I think it was almost considered a genteel fallback career for upper-middle class white boys; certainly not today's pressure cooker of competition full of 3.85 GPA asian kids who had the option to go to Harvard Law but chose to work 100 hr weeks at GS so that they could go on to work 100 hr weeks at KKR.
Pepsi. Drink lots of it. Very hydrating. You'll defy the odds and actually look much younger. I swear by it :-)
i'm not in IB, but when i made the decision not to it was definitely tough. for me, i figured the extra few millions that you make could never replace the years/health you lost in the process.
best of luck.
Ok boys.....take some advice from a girl here.
I walk home. I walk home from midtown to the LES after work. That is my workout. I am starting ballet lessons soon as well, at night, but you guys aren't into that. I used to do strength training as well, which is a great way to work out and build endurance. LOTS of squats and pushups etc.
I am a pale blonde woman. Think slavic with the pale skin and dark circles under my eyes along with the blonde hair. I use makeup to cover up the circles (no one can ever tell, they think I have no circles) and I use a fake tanner. I use the sublime glow from that l'oreal place. It smells nice, leaves no streaks and makes me look hot. For guys, there's Jergens that works as well and does not smell nice and almondy.
I use various skin products. I had acne for a bit, and use Murad's acne treatment.
Lotion for the face- Always use something with alpha hydroxy stuff in it. Alpha Hydroxy acids will slough away the dead skin on the surface and leave your skin smoother and younger looking. It's the dead skin on the surface which contributes to age. Plus the kind I use (neutrogena spf 15 face lotion with alpha hydroxy) has the above mentioned spf 15 to guard from sun damage.
I don't drink or do drugs. This helps. Drinking and doing drugs only ages you. I drink a ton of water though....not enough vitamins on my part...but hey you can't win them all.
I eat some fatty stuff every now and then, but mostly it's salads and then maybe pork chops etc at night. For breakfast I eat granola bars. Snacks....ok...I eat a candy bar here and there and I raid the receptionists candy dish like a klepto.
I am happy. Happy people look better.
/en fin. :)
********"Babies don't cost money, they MAKE money." - Jerri Blank********
How do you even do anything outside of crashing when you get home when you're working 18 hours a day?
I don't work 18 hours a day at a boutique. Nevertheless, none of this would take more than 15 min of your day, spread out over morning and night.
********"Babies don't cost money, they MAKE money." - Jerri Blank********
Well, except when I walk home from work...that takes like an hour.
********"Babies don't cost money, they MAKE money." - Jerri Blank********
I eat healthy...lots of greens and lean meats and seafood. Fish especially is good for you, and the omega-3 helps a lot with concentration during the day. Also, spread your meals over the day to keep your insulin levels steady...try eating about 6-7 meals a day and never let yourself get hungry.
I work out 5 days a week: strength training, spinning and yoga. But in my team everyone works out or plays sports (squash, swimming, something) so it's very normal and accepted when you go to the gym around 6pm just before dinner or during lunch or something. Even MD plays squash three times a week.
Don't drink coffee or alcohol. If you must have caffeine, drink green tea. Drink copious amounts of water. I try to get about 3 litres a day. Don't smoke. Coffee, alcohol and smoking will wreck havoc on your body and your looks. Probably the reason why IBankers always look 10 years older than they really are.
Find a good multivitamin and use that daily.
This is a high-stress job and many people have different coping mechanisms. But I think this job is bad enough for your health as it is that you should try to make healthier choices where possible.
Result: Acne-free skin, youthful looks, strong body and mind and extremely high levels of efficiency and productivity. I also try to get 7 hours of sleep every night. I'll rather work a couple of hours over the weekend and spread my work through the week than have three all-nighters during the week.
Forgot to add; Never skip breakfast. Ever. You'll kill your metabolism and your energy levels. And probably gain a good amount of weight as well.
1) Walk everywhere. Obviously easier if you're in NYC or another major city.
2) During the day take quick walking breaks - you probably don't have time to go to the gym for an hour in the middle of the day, at least not consistently.
3) Make sure you eat breakfast and try to eat small, healthy meals throughout the day instead of eating nothing and then devouring a 3,000 calorie dinner. Buy your own groceries if you have to, it's better to spend a little extra money and save your health.
4) No coffee/drugs/alcohol... no alcohol can be tough to pull off if you go out a lot but minimize as much as possible.
5) Find a 24-hour gym and go whenever you can. Only being able to go on weekends is not ideal but it is better than nothing at all.
That said, even if you are very health conscious and do all of the above, you will probably gain weight and be in worse shape just because you have to be in front of a computer for so many hours each day. But you can limit weight gain and stay healthier than your peers by following these and the suggestions of everyone else above.
Get one of these:
http://www.treadmill-desk.com/
Actually a really good idea but I'd crack up if someone actually used one of these...
Love that idea. Except for the out of shape people who will be breathing hard while making phone calls. Awkward.
-Bring lunch, snacks and dinner with you whenever possible. Get a pack or two of chicken breasts and brown rice, make it on Sunday night and it'll last you 2-3 days. Do the same for other types of meat. If you can't cook, find a nice lady to teach you.
-Stock up on nuts, whey protein, fat-free yogurt, fat-free cottage cheese and others. Whey protein isn't just for putting on muscle, it makes a cheap, healthy snack when mixed with milk or combined with cottage cheese, etc.
-Eat a lot of fruit and get the veggies in the microwave-safe packages. 4 minutes in the mic and your good to go.
-If you get carry-out, try The Pump. It's decent food, even if you're not used to eating healthy.
One final thing is to stick to your guns. Bringing a lunch bag and all the other stuff is sure to draw attention. Once a few weeks go by, people will stop criticizing you. And most likely, they'll take your lead on eating healthy. That was my experience, anyway.
Oh, and, if you're a straight guy, the 19th Street gym might make you a tad bit uncomfortable. Just an FYI if you're shopping around for a gym.
I can't imagine working on a treadmill for 18 hours straight. I really just can't.
"We are lawyers! We sue people! Occasionally, we get aggressive and garnish wages, but WE DO NOT ABDUCT!" -Boston Legal-
um.i.cant.cook.in.the.office.
i.havent.really.had.a.day.off.other.than.a.sick.day
You.should.fall.sick.more.often.then.
i.don't.smoke,don't.drink,and.don't.do.drugs.and.i.feel.healthy.and.look.my.age.or.younger.even.though.i.don't.hit.the.gym. that.often.
why.are.you.guys.putting.dots.between.each.word?
is.it.the.lack.of.sleep?
it.is.ok.to.take.a.sick.day.
You.are.not.a.slave.
The 19th street gym is owned by a big douche. I used to work in the nightclub industry throughout college and one night...well...one night I was upstairs in the club office (the club was on the main floor). We had had a lot of thefts going on, so they said that no one could go upstairs and party and what not anymore. I still left my stuff up there though (which was ok with them). Anyway, I got my stuff and my friend was really drunk so I struggling with her (I wasn't drinking) and this guy tried to go into the office when I was shutting the door. He was pretty much shoving me out of the way and when I argued with him, he called me a cunt and a bitch. His girl was with him there and tried to take him away from me and luckily the manager came up the stairs and asked what was going on. The guy took off. I found out that he was one of the owners of the 19th street gym the next day.
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i basically take a break for about five minutes every one hour during work...go down the stairs and up again...towards the end of the day..it adds up to about an hours worth of exercising...its pretty cool..try it out....and you reach a point when you become so good at it..that you avoid taking elevators completely..
No seriously. Throw out the meat and beef. You'll feel a helluva lot lighter as the easy digestion takes less of your body's energy and you avoid drowsiness.
Don't Go Bonkers - Stress relief (Originally Posted: 06/04/2008)
I came across a shocking video just posted on YouTube two days ago, showing how an office worker exploding from work stress. I know many of us here work extremely long hours. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I also think that “stress relief” is such a “meh” subject for many of us still.
I hope this video would hit you in the head (pun intended) if you’re not already actively doing something about your stress.
Let me warn you though, some of you may find this video disturbing (myself included). http://financialanalystblog.com/a-shocking-look-at-the-destructive-forc…
I wouldn’t want any of us here go bonkers.
wow, that's pretty intense
shit...
Did he hit the first guy over the head with the keyboard? I love how he calmly gathers his papers just to throw them in the other guy's face. Hahaha. In all seriousness though, that guy is insane.
Is there anything else out there on the internet about this video? I just refuse to believe a) that it happened, b) that he's a big enough idiot to do it on tape, c) that it was so perfectly caught on tape, and d) that the other guy's in the room didn't beat his ass as soon as he did it.
It's all very suspect.
I can't find anything else out there on this. I stumble upon it when I was searching for "work stress" articles on the web yesterday. It does look real to me, like it's filmed from a security camera. Now that you mention it looks suspect to you and probably to some others as well, let's just take the moral of the story. If any of us feel like we're reaching break point, know that there is help available.
Stay sane!
It is a lot crazier with the audio.
Actually, the audio seems kind of fake.
paste this into youtube:
strange, but it's kind of funny. the sound of the taser is great, too.
"Now that my friend is a clear cut case of him or me. And you best believe it ain't gonna be me."
http://moviesonlinefree.biz
There is so much "fake and gay" stuff on the internet I don't know what to trust. True story.
Although this thread is old as hell I think the original video was a promo for that assassin movie with Angelina Jolie, the one where they could "curve" bullets.
HOW DO YOU DE-STRESS? (Originally Posted: 01/08/2007)
i'm miserable =(
sex...
go out into the fields and pick some cotton for massah
listen to music?? Granted I have not worked in the ibanking field, but whenever I do feel stressed out I pop in Let's Go or some Lil Jon and feel significantly better.
-Drive fast in my porsche and cut people off. -Go to the club and flex my wrist -Listen to gangsta rap and learn new words and use them at work, even though I went to a prep school and an ivy league. Least I'm trill -Go to a chain restaurant with all you can eat like olive garden and get 6 all you can eat pastas just cus I can. -Go to a place like In and out and order one of everything on the menu and expense it and hand shit out to random people -Workout/run -Send emails to a list of friends and exchanged emails in rapid fire, hoping I don't have to leave my desk, because I'll get 100 emails I have to read/delete
leveragedsellout.com their posts are very amusing then i go to Starbucks and ask the barista if she made my latte with skim even though i know i ordered it skim, but sometimes she screws up, and if she does, i take it out on her, say sorry, and leave her a nice tip on my drink for letting me yell at her. read the Post Page Six workout during my lunch break and take a nice shower before the day gets worse.
workout during lunch? sorry this aint retail.
you don't de-stress. it consumes you. your hair greys and falls out. you put on weight because all of the gorging and consumption. the fast driving, aggressive behaviour adds to the stress in the long term as you have to do more every time. faster lane changes, more near collisions, arguments with bigger more dangerous people.... the momentary joy as your heart races fades quickly as the self loathing returns. it becomes a habit, where you secretly want to be caught and the disappointment sinks in rapidly every time you get away with it. worsening your condition and heightening your internal struggle.
it consumes you until you become one with what you do, with what you have become. a financial whore.
the only way to resolve the stress is to initialise the following ethos and moral code:
"whoredom. intercourse with people you despise. we are whores and are the best because we kiss."
you got problems man. i'd see someone
it was meant to be satirical. i guess it needs a little more work.
Na, made sense to me. Shit has truth to it.
i don't work retail big man BB, but i'm a girl, and that i have found out, has certain advantages ;) at least a certain excuse that's valid for 3 days out of the month...
haha.
what a fucking dumb whore
seeking validation by putting other people down is a real waste of time buddy. look around your office and you will notice that sometimes, under certain circumstances (hence the one I alluded to but some people failed to understand), women are let off a little easier, especially those that do their jobs right.
de-stress away ladies and gents!
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An Attitude and Four Goals for Stress Mastery (Originally Posted: 10/29/2014)
A phrase you frequently hear in the business world is “stress management.” It’s supposed to be the process by which businesspeople learn to deal with their stress in a healthy way. But does managing sound like the ideal scenario? I don’t think so. Managing, for me, connotes just getting by, just keeping your head above water. That is certainly not a threshold high enough for any businessperson who aspires to higher rungs on the corporate ladder.
When I work with businesspeople, my goal is to help them become “stress masters.” That certainly has a very different—and more empowering—ring to it, doesn’t it? Mastery suggests total control and power over something. Isn’t that the relationship that you would like to have with the stress you experience in your life?
So, are you under stress at work? In all likelihood, your answer is a resounding “Yes!” The very nature of the business world and the climb up the corporate ladder that I just mentioned is stressful. And, as I noted in my previous issue of Prime Business Alert!, its effect on your professional and personal lives can be dramatic and destructive.
Assuming that stress is a given in your life, you have two options. One, leave the business world and find a less stressful line of work. That’s probably not realistic, is it? So, two, the default option is to somehow gain control of the stress you experience, in other words, become a stress master.
Attitude Toward Stress
Becoming a stress master begins with having the right attitude toward your work life. This attitude starts with love. Obviously not a word you hear much when it comes to business—more often, words you hear are revenues, losses, and the bottom line—but an essential one nonetheless because love is your first line of defense against debilitating stress. When I talk about love, I mean love what you do. If you love your work, then you’re probably driven by an intrinsic motivation that enables you to experience meaning and fulfillment in your work. That attitude alone can act as a powerful buffer against the most incapacitating aspects of stress.
This attitude focuses on the process of work rather than its outcomes. In other words, you do what you do because you, first and foremost, enjoy doing it and the results of your efforts, namely, money and status, are just icing on the cake.
This attitude also emphasizes the relationships you have in your work. Did you know that the most significant predictor of job satisfaction is not income or title or where your office is located, but rather in the quality of the relationships at work? Yep, people who work in an environment that is pleasant and supportive enjoy their work more and, not surprisingly, experience less stress.
The final attitude you must have to pursue stress mastery is the decision that you will not be a stress victim and the belief that you not only want to be, but are capable of being, a stress master. This attitude establishes the basic belief that stress mastery is attainable and that you are committed to going down that road.
Does this attitude mean that you won’t experience stress at work? Of course not. Will it inoculate against stress altogether? Sadly, no. But, though it’s difficult to evaluate the lessening of stress, I’ve found that these attitudes take the edge off of the stress in subtle, though substantial, ways and become the foundation for further efforts at stress mastery.
Goals for Stress
A part of becoming a stress master involves setting realistic goals about stress and how you can master it. You may have heard stress-management consultants say that the best way to deal with stress is to avoid stress. Well, I would suggest that’s just plain unrealistic. If you work in the business world—or just live in the real world—life is stressful and can’t be avoided. So, a goal you don’t want to have is avoidance (the only real way to avoid stress is to die, and I don’t recommend that strategy because you miss out on a lot of fun stuff).
The first real goal you should set is to accept stress as just a part of the deal in striving for success. Don’t try to resist the stress; that only makes it worse. When you accept stress as a part of your life, when it occurs, it isn’t a surprise to you. In fact, when you assume it will be an ever-present part of your life, though you probably won’t make friends with the stress, you’ll at least be able to tolerate it with a bit of a Zen attitude and good cheer (sort of like an annoying relative who visits regularly). You’re able to roll with it rather than trying to push back against it (a truly futile effort, I might add).
Your second goal is to recognize when it occurs. Almost without exception, you will find a consistent pattern in the situations, people, and experiences in which you feel stress. Just by knowing when stress is likely to arise, you are in a better position to prepare for and respond positively to the stress.
Once you’ve identified your most common stressors, you can then examine the root causes of the stress, in other words, what really stresses you out. And the obvious cause isn’t always the real cause. For example, you may find that you stress out when your boss sets a deadline that you don’t think you can make (even though you know she always sets tight deadlines and you always meet them). You can explore what underlying issues (e.g., lack of support, low confidence, insufficient resources) are causing your stress over something that shouldn’t really be that stressful.
A third goal to shoot for is, when you experience stress, to commit to looking for solutions rather than being consumed by the stress or wallowing in the problems that cause the stress. When faced with stress, you have three possible solutions to pursue. First, you can change the cause of the stress, for example, you can bring in other members of your team to help out if you become overloaded. That, realistically, isn’t always possible, particularly these days where staff numbers are down and responsibilities are up.
Second, you can alter your perception of the stress. Think of it this way. Two businesspeople can be under the exact same stress, but perceive and react to it in vastly different ways. Businessperson A sees the stress as a threat to be avoided and is overwhelmed and paralyzed by the stress. In contrast, Businessperson B sees the stress as a challenge and is excited and energized by the stressful experience. Who do you think is going to experience more debilitating stress and who do you think is going to rise the occasion and continue to perform at a high level?
Third, when confronted by stress, you can treat the symptoms of the stress. For example, you can use meditation, massage, or exercise to relieve the physical manifestations of stress, such as racing heart, shallow breathing, or muscle tension.
Your final goal is to fill a “toolbox” with stress-mastery tools that you can access when you experience stress. Though stress, as I’ve indicated, is inevitable in the business world, the intensity of that stress is exacerbated when you don’t feel that you have the means to respond to that stress in a positive way. When you have access to the stress-mastery toolbox, you feel more in control and capable of mastering the stress and, as a consequence, will perceive less stress than you would without the toolbox.
In my next business-related post, I’ll help you fill your stress-mastery toolbox with useful tools that will help you take the final step toward becoming a stress master.
Good sex is a good way to relieve stress..
de-stressing? (Originally Posted: 08/28/2006)
How do you guys de-stress from the job?
bump
punch something or someone
running
bong load
Hello - How much stress does an average I-banker go through? (Originally Posted: 07/08/2013)
Hi everyone, I'm new to the site as well as to investment banking. One thing I am curious about is:
How much stress does an average investment banker/financial analyst go through? By stress what I mean is, any negative energy that weighs you down.
Welcome!
Please use the search function, there are about 1000000 threads about this.
stressed and easily annoyed, anyone feel the same? (Originally Posted: 05/01/2007)
I am usually a laid-back, gregarious dude but when I am stressed out (due to exams and work), I get pissed off easily, I become really competitive and anti-social. Does anyone feel the same?
Can't wait till I get through this round of midterms and hit the gym...
Thanks for your response :-)
so you're laid back, except when under pressure? i don't you can call yourself 'laid back' in that case. learn to deal better with pressure.
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY???!!!
......yes.
Relieve stress with a professional cuddler? (Originally Posted: 08/23/2014)
Has anyone ever done a Touch by Leah cuddle session? You basically pay her for her company - talking, hanging out/cuddling, but non-sexually. She seems good looking and I literally have no time for meeting women anymore so feel like this could be good for me when all I want is to have a girlfriend-type to hang out with and vent to.
Hahahahaha
A hooker without sex, that is hilarious.
You want to pay a girl to cuddle? Really?
Strong first post.
But come on, get a prostitute like a normal person.
Idk I guess I feel dirty with a hooker. Plus the ones I've been with were dumb girls I'd never actually talk to...
Tinder dude.
Why not do it for free?
He doesn't have enough game to do it for free.
This gets even better. Personally I'm not a fan of hookers but you care about the intelligence of a prostitute?
Lol like any girls offering this type of services have any intelligence? OP you are a fucking moron and stop posting now before you dig yourself deeper into the shithole.
Are you sure "time" is the real issue here? Seems to me if you're paying a girl to talk/cuddle with you, you have bigger issues that may need adressing
LOLs! Lesbian?
Loser.
I'm for anything that gets you through the night, whether that's therapy, an ambien, bottle of jack or in your case a professional cuddler... Do what you gotta do.
Is this how analysts handle stress? (Originally Posted: 06/08/2012)
Is this how analysts handle the stress in the office? I imagine that someone has pulled something like this before; just getting sick and tired of all the bullshit.
On a serious note though, how do people working 70-80+ hour weeks handle stress, especially when these weeks can turn into 100+?
Left hand, right hand, third leg.
Nothing like a white collar beatdown to take the edge off after a long day.
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http://dealbreaker.com/2009/06/citi-will-not-tolerate-your-tardy-ass-bu…
I don't think the hours are as much "stress" as "endurance" even during busy weeks, you still have a chunk of downtime waiting for revisions to be turned around.
You eventually stop thinking, "if I mess up, I am here longer" because you know, even if everything is perfect, there will be a change. Like: http://tmblr.co/ZXGqOvMknL3_
You find something to get a release from the stress. For many, this results in getting slam-hammered on their days off so that they can feel alive during the few short free hours that they have. For others, they might take up hobbies or activities that they can put a couple hours into each week (for example, working out, even though this probably isn't as common as it should be since you're out getting wasted and then sleeping off the hangover, if you have the time).
Guess companies can always hire a boxer trainer during after hours.
Stressed by new job and need advice (Originally Posted: 01/25/2015)
Hi everyone, I'm desperately in need of advice by others in the industry. Would really appreciate some input :)
I'll start by saying I recently joined a back office associate role, which I was ecstatic to get. BUT what was my dream is slowly starting to become a nightmare.
Due to circumstances in the team, I've been working to 9pm most days, and having to log in during weekends to catch up on work. I guess most people here will think BO work is easy.. but I've inherited some messy processes which I've been tasked with sorting out. No one has answers to the issues, and I've been calling various teams all over the world finding out why they're doing what they're doing.. and it's all wrong.
On top of that, I'm constantly given work on the date it's due, so I feel really pressured all day. My boss is trying to "stretch" me so I've been asked to do presentations which I hate because I get nervous public speaking.
Overall I'm just stressed out and finding it hard to switch off. I want to do well but not sure I can see myself putting in the effort to make VP. Am I being ungrateful/over-complaining and should just get on with it, or should I try to take it easy and get another easier job in a few years? The money is good compared to my last job but when you factor in the amount of hours.. Does it get easier? Am I over-worrying?
Just be happy you don't work 9am - 3am every single day of the year.
Stress (Originally Posted: 03/30/2013)
Is stress a sign that your current job is not the one for you (i.e., not the one you're passionate about even if you tell people that you are)?
Virtually every job has stress, so, no I don't think so.
It depends. What it is exactly that is stressing you out? The long hours? The workload? Dont get along with your boss/coworkers? Not a fan of the office atmosphere? Feel like you are under achieving?
There a million reasons why you can be stressed but the problem may be more deep rooted than you might think. Or it may be so simple that you are an idiot for being stressed about such a little thing
If you don't like stress, you could always work a government job.
Yea, I guess I could join the IRS and make shitty Star Trek Parodies on taxpayer dime (this short & lame parody price tag: $60,000).
If you missed the scandal: http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/03/28/william-shatner-appalled-irs-spent-…
Not necessarily. At the same time tastes and preferences change so if you feel you need to move on so be it.
If you're not stressing, you're not doing it right son
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