Average WSO UBS Thread
Managing Director - IB M&A - ex-UBS (fired) - "UBS is done". Direct quote: "Seppuku is always an option too" on choosing between UBS vs. DB vs. Jef. Would guess a coverage dude that got fired for having no deal flow in one of the useless groups.
ED - IB M&A - ex-UBS (fired) - "UBS is toxic". Dude is probably an ex-MD and not an ED given how formally he typically writes. Direct quote: "Juniors spend their days pitching things no one asked for, doing work that the coverage or sponsors teams didn't want to do, getting barked at by flowless MDs with Napoleon complexes; all while sitting under a layoff guillotine that swings every earnings call" on the UBS M&A thread. I am very confident this dude is a product guy, the way he talks about LevFin and numbers.
An 1 - IB Cov and As 2 - IB Cov - UBS Tech - "Would rather work at McDonald's over UBS". These are the only relevant posters IMO, seems like a rough life to work at UBS Tech in the year 2025. No flow and a toxic culture must be a terrible place to work.
I am not saying UBS is good, but it's pretty clear the common UBS posters have at least some kind of axe to grind against UBS.
Seems like they are all kind of saying the same thing?
Either everything is a big conspiracy or UBsS is not a good place to work right now
Absolutely, I am not saying it's all a conspiracy, apologies if it came off that way. More so, just saying it's pretty clear these people all have an axe to grind against UBS, which again, as I mentioned in my comment, is fair given that UBS was previously a culture bank and is no longer. Rather, what I am saying is that perhaps it makes sense to take their words with a grain of salt, given that they all have an axe to grind with the firm. I mean, there was a previous thread where someone was claiming RBC and TD have higher M&A US deal flow, and the league tables for US LTM clearly show UBS higher than both firms... It's things like that which make it hard to trust these posters. I am not saying the UBS marketing material of we will become 6th in M&A in the US is also true... they are very far away from that too. Feel like the truth is going to be somewhere in the middle of the two.
Seems true though that RBC and TD doing better than UBS
The facade that UBS puts on for prospects during recruitment is disingenuous at best and outright lying at its worst.
Kind of like a pyramid scheme. Once you are in it, in your best interest to say how great it is
I have no dog in the hunt against UBS. I just like to poke fun at my “competitors” (although UBS’s approach to competition is more France circa 1940 than Switzerland)
So who’s going to rescue France?
It’s not like any of them are lying - if something quacks it’s a duck.
I am not saying they are lying, just that UBS in particular gets more hate on this forum and engagement because there are a lot of legacy UBS people who got laid off and are very mad about it. This again is valid on their part, but it is pretty clear that the picture painted of UBS is particularly negative on this forum compared to their league table standings in the US.
This list is just not complete without mentioning the Intern in IB - M&A (N) who will without fail show up to defend UBS in the thread within 10min of it being posted.
Ah i see, you made the thread. Once again, congrats on UBS!
Good Morning Marco!
It's still a BB btw
(vote casting)
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-banking/ubs-the-bulge-bracket-remains-a-distant-dream
Cast members and apes, once the votes are read the decision is final and you will be asked to leave the BB island. I’ll go tally the votes
(Pulls card) 8th member of our jury and joining Bear Sterns, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, Salomon Brothers, Credit Suisse, Donaldson, Lufkin & Jenrette (DLJ), and First Boston..is:
UBS!
UBS, the (WSO) tribe has spoken. Pack your bags and head out
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