B4 Valuation to IB

Hello all, finished up a IB SA Stint at a MM and didn't get an RO because of headcount reasons. Ended up landing a B4 Valuations role for and plan to be aggressive and get staffed on more on PE + M&A valuations. I want to Pivot back into IB and preferably aim for that solid MM, low BB range. Is this doable? For more reference on me: 3.8 GPA, nontarget, leadership in 2 clubs, over 1 year credit fund/business advisory experience, previous internship in FP&A at global Corp.

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, transitioning from a Big Four Valuation role to Investment Banking (IB) is indeed possible, especially if you aim for the middle market (MM) or lower-tier bulge bracket (BB) range. Here are some key points to consider:

  1. Project Experience:

    • Focus on getting staffed on Private Equity (PE) and Mergers & Acquisitions (M&A) valuations. This type of experience is more aligned with the skills needed in IB.
    • Avoid being pigeonholed into only doing Purchase Price Allocations (PPAs), tax valuations, and audit support, as these are less relevant for IB roles.
  2. Networking:

    • Networking is crucial. Leverage your existing connections from your IB SA stint and build new ones within the industry.
    • Attend industry events, reach out to alumni, and use LinkedIn to connect with professionals in your target firms.
  3. Exit Opportunities:

    • The most common exits from Big Four Valuation roles are into Corporate Development (Corp. Dev.) or Financial Analyst positions, but moving into MM IB or Tier 2 Management Consulting (MC) is also fairly common.
    • Exits into BB IB or elite boutique (EB) IB are less common but achievable with the right experience and networking.
  4. Skill Development:

    • Continue to build and refine your technical skills, particularly in financial modeling and valuation.
    • Consider additional training or certifications if needed to bolster your resume.
  5. Interview Preparation:

    • Be prepared to discuss your project experience in detail, highlighting any relevant M&A or PE work.
    • Practice common IB interview questions, both technical and behavioral.
  6. Timeline:

    • Aim to lateral into IB within one to two years. This timeframe allows you to gain sufficient experience and demonstrate your capabilities.

Given your strong GPA, leadership experience, and previous internships, you have a solid foundation to make this transition. Stay focused, network aggressively, and seek out the right project experiences to enhance your profile for IB roles.

Sources: Q&A: Big Four Valuation Associate - Deciding Whether This Job Is Right For You, Q&A: Big Four Valuation Associate - Deciding Whether This Job Is Right For You, Q&A - Non-Target >> Valuation >> MM IB, MSF -->> Big 4 Valuation Q&A, Big4 Valuation to IB

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Should be more than possible, are you getting your CPA as well? I think a lateral move to one of the MM’s is definitely doable if you network. Worst case scenario you can get an MBA and then make the pivot. Caveat though, I’m based in the UK where lateral moves from B4 to IB are slightly easier.

 

I'm curious to hear how this is going for you? Have you started networking or gotten any bites on applications? What's been your strategy for transitioning back to IB?

I'm in similar situation as you where I'm in a senior valuation role at a small firm, 2yrs experience, non-target and looking to break into IB

 
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Given you are at a small valuation firm and from a non-target, I would make sure you temper your expectations about transitioning to IB. I am not saying it is impossible, but I think it will not be easy coming from a small valuation firm. Below are some things to consider:

  • For example if your firm is not a known name/reputable valuation firm, services smaller clients, etc. these will all make your transition to IB even more challenging. It will also depend on the type of valuation work you did as well, if you did a lot of transactional related valuation work like fairness opinions or any kind of valuation in an M&A/strategic context (all of this would typically require doing a DCF, comps, precedent transactions, etc. which is highly relevant to IB) would be seen as more relevant to IB then say valuations for tax purposes, etc.
  • Regardless of that, you should also not expect to go to a big brand name BB like GS, JPM, MS, etc. or one of the bigger boutiques like Evercore, Lazard, etc. The valuation people that I have seen go to IB all came from Big 4, D&P (nka Kroll), FTI, etc. and they all went to mostly LMM to MM IB firms (i.e. I would expect a smaller valuation firm to have worse exits than those bigger valuation firms, all else being equal)
  • These people I saw exit also left within their first 2 years of being at their valuation job, so I would recommend not staying too long in valuations as it will make the transition harder
  • Also all IB firms will not count your valuation years of experience equal to IB experience, so if you have worked in valuations for 2 years, they would very likely not bring you on as an associate and probably an analyst (maybe closer to 2nd year analyst?). For example most of the 1st/2nd year valuation analysts and associates I saw leave for IB, all became IB analysts (none became associates)
  • As you indicated, networking can be helpful here but this will also be dependent on the lateral market too which I have no idea how it is today
 

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