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I’d steer clear of that group. Deal flow has fallen off a cliff and all the good ASOs/VPs are quitting at an insane rate due to very below market pay. A few psychopathic seniors that wreck lives. Very sweaty group with very little payoff, it’s a shell of what it was 3 years ago.

Would go with M&A, FSG, or C&R. M&A is a great experience in terms of modeling and understanding how to execute deals. FSG does modeling in house as well, and WLB is decent from what I hear. Same with C&R, good culture/WLB and top shop on the street. Heard that group can get very political though with DEI etc.

 

Sounds great, thank you! Do you have any insights into TMT? Know PA office did the google-wiz deal but unsure of the strength of the NYC office.

 
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bro ur a high schooler why do you keep giving opinions LMAO thats like me giving opinions as an intern but somehow even worse 

 

Think NET is pretty underrated on this forum. In house modeling so you get technical exposure, and pretty solid exits, albeit generally only to infra shops (GIP, Stonepeak, etc…). Downside is that with the modeling comes a bit of a sweaty experience, can definitely be a grind compared to some of the other groups.

 

I don't think you know what you are talking about sorry. The bank did mass layoffs in every group, not just EGRC so don't talk as if EGRC was targeted particularly. The exit options for this group for juniors have been excellent and you get great deal experience here. Yes, deal sizes are smaller but you get more opportunities to drive the process because the clients are smaller. Group is large because coverage is for the entire country and this group is Moynihan's focus to revitalize the investment bank.

 

TMT has been doing well, though tech is based in PA I think. Just did Google - Wiz and heard they made some good hires after the exodus a few years ago. 

 

Hasn't been true this year. Several of the big TMT deals were out of NYC, albeit single analyst was on all of them, so not sure what the other analysts get there

 

how does the group placement process look like? any tips for M&A and FSG? how’s the culture wlb like in these two groups?

 

Good options:

  • M&A: most relevant experience for buyside (modeling, process management)
  • LevFin: Top shop on the street after JP, you will get solid reps
  • C&R: good culture and top group on the street. Sector is slow and group culture is political
  • HC: Sweaty but OK deal flow and culture

    Avoid:
  • TMT NY: insanely bloated with very little deal flow. Palo Alto is more lean and a better choice
  • EGRC: never seen a group so overpaid and underqualified, very little deal flow and a massive team. Culture is amazing though
  • GIG: extremely sweaty while deal flow has fallen off, some absolute dickhead seniors that will make your life hell
  • FIG: self-explanatory
 

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Good options:

  • M&A: most relevant experience for buyside (modeling, process management)
  • LevFin: Top shop on the street after JP, you will get solid reps
  • C&R: good culture and top group on the street. Sector is slow and group culture is political
  • HC: Sweaty but OK deal flow and culture

    Avoid:
  • TMT NY: insanely bloated with very little deal flow. Palo Alto is more lean and a better choice
  • EGRC: never seen a group so overpaid and underqualified, very little deal flow and a massive team. Culture is amazing though
  • GIG: extremely sweaty while deal flow has fallen off, some absolute dickhead seniors that will make your life hell
  • FIG: self-explanatory

Agreed, the others here have no idea what they are talking about. EGRC is where you go if you can't get any other group. All of our bum associates and VPs get moved there

 

This is literally known as the most toxic and sweaty vertical in the entire bank.

 

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