Comparable analysis on ralph lauren (Question on fully diluted shares outstanding)
Hi all,
Been trying to do a comparable analysis on ralph lauren (RL) to improve my skills and having trouble to determine the fully diluted shares amount. I know to have the Fully Diluted Shares Outstanding. I need to calculate the number Basic Shares Outstanding + In the Money Options & Warrants + In the Money Convertible Securities. While RL doesn't seems to have any convertible or options information in its latest 10-K/10-Q. They have RSUs (service-based, performance-based, market-based), after doing a few research, I knew I had to add up these data into my calculation as well.
My question is how should I include these data?
1. Is it as simple adding up the number of shares of the RSUs, if yes, should I only included the vested amount or the nonvested amount?
2. If not, should I treated it similar to options and use TSM?
3. Based on the 10-K provided, it mentioned Dilutive effect of RSUs and stock options = 1.3 million (P95 of 10-K). Which I am having trouble to derive this number.
4. The basic shares amount on the first page of 10-K is different than the appendix also found on P95, is it because of the time difference and they may be any shares buyback?
Information fetched from RL IR page
Any insights are appreciated. Thanks!
Based on the most helpful WSO content, here are some insights on how to handle fully diluted shares outstanding (FDSO) and the inclusion of RSUs:
Key Points to Consider:
Basic Calculation of FDSO:
Restricted Stock Units (RSUs):
Treatment of RSUs:
Deriving the Dilutive Effect:
Discrepancies in Basic Shares:
Steps to Include RSUs in FDSO Calculation:
Example Calculation:
Conclusion:
To accurately determine the FDSO for Ralph Lauren, you should: - Include only vested RSUs or use the TSM for a more precise calculation. - Ensure you account for any timing differences in share counts due to buybacks or new issuances.
If you need further assistance, reviewing the specific details in the 10-K and applying the TSM method will help clarify the dilutive impact of RSUs and other securities.
Sources: DCF Modeling Course ~ Pre-training text.pdf, Bullet Proof Comps Recipe
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Hi,
You should include both vested and unvested RSUs, is my view. The reason is that, for your purposes (which is not necessarily the same as an accounting point of view, since you're considering the company under a takeover scenario), all the RSUs are likely to vest. Under an acquisition, RSUs typically have an acceleration clause allowing them to vest ahead of their usual schedule (it's not the employee's fault that the company they worked for was acquired).
There's no TSM as the strike price for RSUs is effectively 0. You just add them.
Now, the nuance with Ralph Lauren is that a lot of their RSUs are performance-based. Should an employee get credit if the company is acquired when their performance conditions weren't met? Honestly there's no right answer. It might be hardcoded into the RSU documentation, or might have loose language that will have lawyers fighting over it in a real scenario. I'm going to go ahead and assume they get converted but in any real scenario it'll likely be a discussion point (there's no way you'll get a case study with something so complex).
The first page has the number as of a specific date while page 95 has the weighted average number of share over a time period (so yes this is impacted by share buybacks, new share issuances, etc.)
Hi
Thanks for taking your time on this question. Really appreciate it! However regarding your answer, I would like to ask, when conducting comparable analysis, should I always assume a takeover scenario?
No, and I didn't address this - what do you mean by comparable analysis here? I would've thought this mean looking St the EV / EBITDA of Ralph Lauren versus peers?
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