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Absolutely lifestyle. Think many people actually find the work interesting but lifestyle becomes more important after you make a bonus or two and realize the money isn't lifechanging enough to justify giving up your whole life. Most of the analysts I see don't really mind the work (tedious, but any junior role is) but it's the absolutely insane level of detail and hours that get them

 

It is likely that people leave the banking industry for a variety of reasons, including both work-related and lifestyle factors.

In terms of work-related factors, some common reasons for leaving the banking industry might include a lack of job satisfaction, a lack of opportunities for advancement, a high level of stress or pressure, or a lack of work-life balance.

Lifestyle factors can also play a role in a person's decision to leave the banking industry. For example, someone might leave the industry if they are looking for more flexibility in their schedule, or if they are seeking a change of pace or a different type of work environment.

Ultimately, the reasons for leaving the banking industry will vary from person to person and will depend on their individual circumstances and priorities.

 

I'd say it's a combination that starts with lifestyle and is accentuated by the work. Having just made Associate, I've started trying to figure out how long I can sustainably keep up working these hours, while trying to maximize income. During this process where I've still been grinding out long weeks, I've begun to take a more constructive, hard look at the probabilities the deals I'm working on will close. When you're working the entire week after Christmas for multiple deals that can sometimes seem like potential pipe dreams given company performance and a desperation precipitated by the market, it really adds a layer of perspective. I haven't really decided what I'm going to do as I just started having these internal thoughts about next steps for me, but leaving would be primarily because of the lifestyle (when you hit a comfortable figure and moving on from an IB salary), but the timing of when this is will be because of how much I become desensitized or apathetic to the work that I'm doing.

 

I ended up sticking with it. Three changes solidified my decision and I haven't looked back. 

  1. Team/Group Success: Deals starting to close and my understanding/deal knowledge expanded exponentially to the point where I realized how much I could learn from this job. It can be extremely difficult when you get through confirmatory for the fifth time just for the sponsor to come back and tell you that they couldn't get it through final IC and will be backing out. That was happening a lot to me but deals closing and getting paid as a result, helped.
  2. Deal Team Dynamics: I had a senior team member I was staffed with a lot that made the job insufferable. Typical things - checking if you were working late at night, constant gossip and trash talk about everyone behind their backs, expert at creating busy work, etc. My staffings started to change and i was able to branch out from essentially being this team member's personal analyst. Once that happened, other senior team members realized they enjoyed working with me and I got put on more of their deals, which helped immensely. My lifestyle and flexibility changed a lot - I still was a proven team member but had a way better schedule without constantly needing to look over my shoulder.
  3. Career Goals: I stuck with it and am now a VP in the industry. Although I am not sure about making it to MD and if that's something I even want, I realized this job could be more than models, CIMs, and DD trackers if i wanted it to be. I pushed for varied work; I worked hard to become knowledgeable in a couple sub sectors; and dialed in communication and training skills to help be more effective in front of clients and developing junior staff. When I figured out how much value and skills I picked up from these things, it's been a lot easier sticking with the job longer-term. 

I still don't know if I'll be in this for the long haul, but I will say I'm glad I stuck around til at least VP. The things I've learned, the additional nuances of this job I didn't think existed, and the ability to nurture relationships at the client and fund level have been invaluable regardless of what's next.

 

Both. For me the work is extremely detail oriented and tedious, which makes me really stressed out on a day to day basis. Plus, I think a lot of the work we do is really unnecessary in the grand scheme of things. For lifestyle, it goes without saying. It sucks always being on the clock 24/7 and having to do work well into the evening. At this point I just want work life balance.

 

Lifestyle usually but for people I've seen leave IB/PE at 30+ (skipping the MBA), I've seen it a mix of both the lifestyle and desire to expand their skillset as they don't see themselves as a dealmaker / investor long term.

Personally know a few ex IB/PE guys who seem way happier leaving high finance for strategy / business development / operational roles within private corporates / startups. Usually become C-suite (COO, CFO, CEOs) after 5-10 years if they choose to go to LMM / MM PE sized PortCos.

 
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Both.

  • Work is boring as hell (whether churning out models as a junior or project management as a senior, or “crafting the equity story” where you rehash the same bullshit highlights like how great/experienced the management bench is)
  • Full of false precision (arts graduates who get a hard on over cranking out LBOs to 2 decimal place IRRs as if they’re solving Fermat, or whether margin will expand by 150bps or 175bps in FY+10)
  • Too much pointless iteration for the sake of it (v51 of some bullshit pitch deck, reordering tombstones at midnight before the meeting, getting contradictory input from 3 MDs (emailed without the group in CC))
  • Industry is a magnet for assholes and poor managers, where cranking out all nighters is seen as a badge of honour rather than being called out for what it is - piss poor leadership (bad time and/or client management)
  • Commodity offering like selling real estate or used cars - zero value add, which is why you don’t get paid for your time like other professional services but instead clip a contingent fee like you’re selling condos
  • Can’t even apply your l33t valuation skills to build wealth as you can’t PA single securities at a  lot of firms… so you’re expected to stay a wage slave or jump on the passive bubble.

Served my time to get a down payment for a house and some extra hobby cash but beyond that getting out of IB was the best thing I’ve ever done.

 

One another point is that a lot of us myself included are after a position where we might get to make interesting decisions related to investing or not and putting capital at risk. Unfortunately it takes seriously long to get to that kind of position (not including personal trading.) By that point, goals in life might have dramatically shifted, i.e. you have kids now and really just want to spend time with your family or need to be around for them. So it's a little like, what am I chasing here? If you're fortunate and reach that kind of seat, there's a very real chance that you don't get the same kind of fulfillment from it that you envisioned. That being said, plenty of people are able to strike the balance and personally would rather be doing this really interesting thing than not when 35 or later, but just something to consider. 

 

It’s just the same song and dance over and over and is very disruptive to lifestyle. When you work with reasonable senior bankers at times you can see how it’s possible to stay but then when you work with mediocre or worse bankers you see why it would be better to go. 

I started as an analyst and am now a senior VP. Looking to leave this year. Having zero stability / predictability of schedule gets old. Even periods where I don’t have a lot of work to do the stress levels are through the roof. It doesn’t automatically get better when you’re a VP. Plenty of times I wish I could just have my head down in Excel or PowerPoint rather than just dealing with political BS and theatrics the entire days 

I think it boils down to the people. A lot of people in banking are  seriously neurotic, more than you’d experience in normal life so it may be hard to understand if you’re in school. In general, banking is extremely inefficient. If you’re an efficient person who likes to get things done it’s difficult to comprehend. 

 

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