Going into IB for full-time without doing Summer Analyst program? (FT 2026)

Just out of curiosity, how usual/typical is it for someone who didn't do an IB summer analyst position to break into IB for full-time? I'm currently a junior at a target public university (Berkeley/Michigan/UVA) who's interested in full-time for IB. It seems like a lot of the people here who are planning to re-recruit for full-time already have SA gigs under their belt. I have done two previous internships at finance related companies. I currently have a 3.6 and on track to increase it as well when graduation comes around.

If there's anyone on here who's successfully went into IB full-time without doing an IB summer analyst program beforehand, I'd love to hear your opinions/tips on this. Thanks.

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, breaking into investment banking (IB) for a full-time position without having done a Summer Analyst (SA) program is challenging but not impossible. Here are some insights and tips:

  1. Understanding the Challenge:

    • Many full-time IB positions are filled by candidates who have completed SA programs. This is because firms often use their SA programs as a pipeline for full-time hires.
  2. Previous Internships:

    • Having finance-related internships, as you mentioned, is beneficial. It shows relevant experience and a commitment to the finance industry.
  3. Networking:

    • Networking is crucial. Reach out to alumni from your university who are in IB. Attend industry events, join finance clubs, and leverage LinkedIn to connect with professionals in the field.
  4. Recruitment Timeline:

    • Be aware of the recruitment timeline. Full-time recruiting for IB typically happens early, often before the end of the summer. Make sure you are prepared and apply early.
  5. Skill Development:

    • Focus on developing the necessary technical skills. Proficiency in Excel, financial modeling, and understanding of valuation techniques are essential.
  6. Intellectual Curiosity:

    • Show intellectual curiosity and a genuine interest in IB. This can be demonstrated through your coursework, extracurricular activities, and during interviews.
  7. Persistence:

    • Persistence is key. If you don’t secure a full-time position immediately, consider other related roles such as in corporate finance, consulting, or even a smaller boutique firm. These can serve as stepping stones to IB.
  8. Advice from WSO Threads:

    • According to a thread titled "Tips For Incoming FT Analysts That Did NOT Do an IB Internship," new analysts without an IB internship tend to start off slower and may have different expectations. It's important to manage your expectations and be prepared for a steep learning curve.

For more detailed advice and personal experiences, you can refer to the following WSO threads: - https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-banking/tips-for-incom…</a">Tips For Incoming FT Analysts That Did NOT Do an IB Internship - https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-banking/back-office-to…</a">Back office to IB analyst attempts

These threads provide valuable insights and tips from individuals who have navigated similar paths.

Sources: Tips For Incoming FT Analysts That Did NOT Do an IB Internship, Tips For Incoming FT Analysts That Did NOT Do an IB Internship, Full-time non-SA IB recruiting timeline? Summer 2020 PE Internship → Investment Banking Analyst, IBD Summer Analyst Tips, Medical School --> IBanking

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i can speak to this, received a FT offer without SA from a non-target. what do you have lined up for this summer? would start cold emailing LMM banks to see if they’re looking for interns. Then any version of valuation / FDD / corporate finance.

FT recruiting will kick off in late August / early September, so would recommend a strong network established by then.

yes, it’s going to be more difficult if you don’t have a banking internship. however, if you have a good gpa, solid work experience, know your technicals, and are a strong culture fit, you will get hired somewhere.

best of luck!

 

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