PJT HR - Controversial Much?
Seen some nasty screenshots floating around these days and wanted to hear actual stories from current employees of the firm - what's going on with PJT HR? For what's worth, I am now no longer with PJT but know enough from the inside.
1) Mental Wellness
Context - there has been an increasing number of cases where analysts/associates got way too overwhelmed with projects and had to take personal time off to nurse their health (disclaimer, this is not a PJT issue, but an IB issue). This is consistent across RX, M&A, Parkhill etc. It seems that whenever this happened, HR is always more concerned with such anecdotes blowing up from a PR perspective instead of the general wellness of folks. Have heard first hand that HR has personally stressed that attempting to walk away from your projects when you are overwhelmed creates a disproportionate amount of effort having to re-staff projects. On several occasions, HR also explicitly questioned analysts/associates if they are faking their mental wellness. During follow-ups, HR would always religiously stress that you should be better at managing your own stress and that this is a lean firm, hinting at the same time that if you can't do that, maybe this is not the best fit for you. Not sure if this is normal for other banks but the messaging appears to be terrible. Interestingly, people who flagged to HR that they are starting to get overwhelmed and took some time off also got a significant cut on their bonuses in the recent comp cycle. I get the argument that if you took a month off, in theory you should not be comp-ed as much, but taking a few days off because you are feeling overwhelmed and getting kicked to lower bucket?... Not to mention that a fair number of assocs have kids - firms should have way more empathy imo.
2) Diversity Recruiting
HR attempted to take recruiting into their own hands this year and that turned out to be a complete disaster. Traditionally, bankers from different groups would speak to prospective candidates from their respective school and do a soft screen before curating a list. This year, HR bypassed the bankers and did their own pick of the cherry. In fact, no one from the banking group even knew that the diversity invitation went out until candidates in the respective school gave this feedback. Naturally, this resulted in a terrible average quality of candidates since there is really no way you can tell the strength of a candidate purely from his/her resume. Additionally, HR was sending inconsistent signals to everyone. In the same span of 24 hours, they would be emailing people that they have not started recruiting for non-diversity, yet giving out offers to non-diversity candidates at the same time. It's a shame that for such a good firm, the back office is doing such a terrible job. Clearly management is not putting enough emphasis on recruiting. Many people currently at the firm can also attest to this.
3) Dating
This might be slightly controversial, but there are a good number of people in HR both officially and unofficially dating bankers. Respectfully, I am of the opinion that this alone does not create a problem. Regrettably, when you have HR and Bankers dating, there is a diffusion of information and all of a sudden information that is meant to be confidential is now known to everyone. Everything from comp, access to promotions, personal conflicts between people, mental wellness, etc. is now out in the public. This is not meant to dox any specific couples, but HR has access to so much sensitive information that more guard rails should be put into this.
Closing thoughts
It seems that across the board, the industry as a whole is getting less forgiving - RE:EVR also seems to be facing a similar issue. I had a great time when I was working at PJT. Arguably, you will meet some of the highest quality candidates across all ranks, from analysts to MDs. However, there's been so many issues created by HR and it just seems bizarre to me that such a great firm would allow something like this to affect the overall working experience of people at the firm.
Can current PJT employees comment on this? Would love to hear more anecdotes on what exactly going on.
coffee chats/networking with bankers didn't even help this year for pjt? damn wish I had known earlier
this is why my respect for HR ppl goes down everyday.
Grabbing popcorn.
in b4 ppl start ranking the HR / banker couples at PJT
Sarah and Chad (Tier 1B) are slightly below Tanner and Emily (Tier 1A) however can see Sarah and Chad coming up to Tier 1A with its recent acquisition of Diamond ring.
Can you post screenshots
Bump
This whole HR thing in America is such a joke and weirdly unique to the country…should rlly go back to bankers calling the shots
not sure if unique to America. I'm pretty sure in England HR decides who get spring weeks (one of their major sa recruiting things)
Yep. They also have a big influence on who converts e.g. as they'll give their opinions on how people "performed" over the week. Even for summers HR gatekeep until the AC stage as they'll often do the screening and first rounds
okay, I revise my statement. This HR thing in the west is a complete joke.
The sad reality with forced HR recruiting is that people will automatically assume that "this person" or "that person" only got an offer because of x or y diversity program. This is extremely detrimental to the social dynamics of a firm and to those who actually get hired (i.e. "They didn't earn that job"). When will we get back to a good ol' meritocracy and stop letting HR control the entire narrative of a firm? There has to be a happy medium somewhere.
Oh wow valiant Pjt culture warrior alum standing up for the good of … ??
HR is there to protect the company, unfortunately
HR: the vehicle for driving forward the liberal ESG/Diversity agenda
2nd year analyst at PJT here, I heard bottom buckets are going to get fucked by HR. Does it mean I got a shot with the waspy broads?
I don't understand the complaints from OP? These are all good changes. Your questioning HR decisions when were the most important aspect of any company and always know best.
source: I'm HR at a elite boutique and was in a top tier sorority so I know a few things
Can confirm the two main females that run PJT…it was quite a disaster and they gave kids second chances on superdays, yes, you heard that right
second chances? so they got two superdays?
Yes I know one of the people in the black insights program got to redo his super day again
Another terrible look for PJT
HR should have 0 business in recruitment outside of scheduling
Lazards hr also sucks
elaborate
There were recent cases where underperforming individuals of a certain race in the restructuring group (who otherwise would have been terminated) were “transferred” by HR into the M&A group instead. Reason being bad PR / second chances for said individuals of this race.
How did they get into RX in the first place?
If I were a gambling man, I’d wager they got the RX seat in large part to meet diversity quotas; hence, the bar was lowered for them in interviews, and there are probably special diversity recruiting pipelines and sophomore/off-cycle internships in PJT RSSG. This is just my guess though.
HR terrorizing organizations across the board. These groups need to be curtailed.
If everything in this post it’s true, imo reflects poorly on leadership who have either let this happened or are so out of touch they don’t even realise it’s happening.
Time to start learning mandarin - our days as the dominant superpower are numbered.
Nah, I can tell you, as a Chinese, that it's just as phucked, if not more corrupt, back in China.
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