Why You Should Boycott Recruiting at UBS (Insider Perspective)
Let me save you some time: if you’re even considering recruiting at UBS, stop. Close your laptop, go outside, and think about your self-worth. I know, you’re thinking: “But it’s a bulge bracket bank!” Sure, and McDonald’s is technically a restaurant, but that doesn’t mean you should be dining there every day. UBS wants you to believe they’re a player in M&A. Spoiler: they’re not. You’ll be more familiar with their printers than with closing a deal.
It’s not just bad, it’s embarrassingly bad, and the only people defending it are either delusional or on payroll. Here’s why prospects should seriously reconsider UBS:
1. Deal Flow: A Mythical Concept
UBS talks a big game about being a “global leader” in investment banking, but let’s be real: the only thing flowing here is endless PowerPoint revisions for “potential opportunities” that never see daylight. If you enjoy spending weeks on pitches that get canned before they even make it to a client call, UBS is your dream. Ask anyone on the inside, and they’ll tell you that almost all deals happening are internal ones to make PowerPoint slides look better. The only “synergy” here is between boredom and burnout. Hope you like formatting slides for an audience of exactly zero.
2. The Culture: A Case Study in Dysfunction
You’ll hear them wax poetic about their collaborative and supportive culture. Translation: at UBS, “culture” means being micromanaged by seniors who can’t remember your name where you’ll be drowning in grunt work while your MDs spend more time “circling back” than actually leading any deals. And God forbid you miss a comma on a deck, expect a 45-minute lecture about “attention to detail” and how you are “not up to par.”
3. The People Are Bad, Mediocre at Best
Although you’ll hear coffee chats talk up “the people” what that really means is that you’ll be stuck with incompetent MDs who take credit for your work and directors who email you at 2 a.m. to “fix the formatting.” The “team-oriented culture” UBS brags about is a myth. Instead, you’ll find a toxic blend of micromanagement, endless blame-shifting, and seniors who think “mentorship” means assigning you grunt work at 3 a.m. Pro tip: if you need a job with Stockholm Syndrome built in, UBS is hiring.
4. Lack of Vision
UBS markets itself with “advice is our craft.” But ask them about innovation or market positioning, and you’ll get a response as vague as their feedback on your 3rd-round interview.
5. Exit Opps? You’ll Exit the Industry
If you’re looking to use UBS as a stepping stone, good luck. Recruiters see UBS on your resume and assume you spent two years pretending to be busy while refreshing FactSet. Most recruiters glaze over the UBS name faster than we glaze over during our 8 a.m. “Town Hall” Monday morning meeting. (P.S It’s MaNdAtOrY)
6. Reputation: A Punchline in the Industry
UBS clings to its “bulge bracket” status like it’s still 2007. But let’s face it, this bank has been on a slow decline for years. Insiders know it’s the financial world’s equivalent of a “we’ll circle back” email. It’s the butt of jokes at every happy hour. The running joke is that UBS stands for Used to Be Something. Even their clients aren’t impressed, and you shouldn’t be either. Want to spend the rest of your career explaining why you went there? Didn’t think so.
The Bottom Line:
If you’re looking for a career full of unrealized potential, pointless busywork, and a constant sense of regret, UBS is perfect. For everyone else, do yourself a favor and aim higher, or at least literally anywhere else with functioning deal flow and a shred of respect for its employees. Go somewhere you’re treated like more than a cog in a poorly-oiled machine. The only thing worse than working there is explaining at networking events why you’re still there.
Let UBS be someone else’s bad life choice. You’re better than this. Save your dignity and apply literally anywhere else. Let’s stop pretending this bank deserves your time or talent.
Let me know your thoughts, especially if anyone has actually had a positive experience there (I’ll wait).
##BoycottUBS #NeverUBS #DoBetter
Spot on brotha, I’m avoiding it like the plague
Damn 😭😭😭
Exactly why I left after my IB summer, as did the vast majority of my class. Can only imagine how bad it’s become ever since the CS merger.
i'm at a nontarget lol beggars can't be choosers
It’s even worse than other financial careers outside of banking, trust me
I actually am having a great time at UBS, I'll be the first to disagree with the first post.
I lateraled over to UBS from Barclays last year (I had a strong relationship with the group head here at UBS who also was an MD at barclays I worked under who lateraled over with me as well). Despite not really closing any live deals this year, I have a nice 150%+ of base guaranteed bonus, and was given a top bucket spot.
The group head and head of IB (Marco) enable me to do my job. I love it here.
Are others have a tough time? It's been nothing but a great experience for me!
Outsiders Guide to Bonuses at UBS:
-From Barclays: 150% Base
-From Other Banks: 100% Base
-From CS: 80% Base
-From UBS 40% Base
Yes implies management believes Barclays bankers are 4x better than UBS bankers and CS bankers are 2x better than UBS bankers
Can confirm last year many UBSers in the 40-50% threshold, will hope for more this year
Is that accurate on Barclays?
So you did nothing interesting and didn’t close a deal in a year but are happy with the experience because you were paid your guaranteed bonus? I am sure you understand you would have gotten much less if you didn’t come from Barclays. Seems like your comment confirms OPs position on the talent at UBS.
>despite not really closing any live deals this year
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Big banks don't really have their own unique characteristics from one another. A little on the margins, sure. GS for example has a reputation of using its brand to underpay a bit, and pushes DEI harder than any other bank. But these are small things. The real differences are between every group on the street, not between every bank. When MDs move around so much, it's impossible to build any meaningful cultural differences between firms.
So "don't work at ____" where the blank is any bulge bracket or EB, really doesn't make sense. If you're a college kid applying to one you should be applying to all.
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Wow. Faux doctor Rahma actually has a good point for once. It is a shame people are MS-ing a self-evidently correct take
Gracias
Isn’t this largely group dependent? Have heard great things about LevFin there.
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Ah yes, UBS, where “banking is our craft” translates to sculpting masterpieces of wasted time, painting landscapes of missed deals, and weaving intricate tapestries of corporate excuses. Picasso himself would be jealous of how abstract their strategy is.
LevFin finished the year top 1 in leading new LBO's and 4th in leading sponsor led LevFin transactions. No deal-flow, not a top 5 arguably top 3 LevFin/Sponsors franchise on the street at all.
Awesome giving away the loan book for pennies on the dollar or even at a loss to try to kickstart the M&A pipeline. Specific subverticals of debt just a small piece of all debt issued to corporates.
Agree with OP 100%, nothing good to say about this firm
Swap out UBS with literally any another bank name and it still works btw
Nah. They are called "U Buy Shit" according to some clients of mine.
would take unemployment over ubs, thanks op
I don’t think a bank has a worse rep right now. A case study on an integration failure.
Yeah that and the continuing Nazi connections (and 70+ year coverup) that has been found linking UBS/CS to Nazi bank accounts
Recent article:
https://www.budget.senate.gov/chairman/newsroom/press/senate-budget-com…
Thanks for sharing this - FUCK CS
I mean this is the word's most obvious single troll job by some disgruntled employee ever. I am sure any reasonable person doing recruiting can do a bit more research than read through just this thread. Not shocked though, oh wow person in the worst group that also happens to be the most toxic group hates the place they work, who would've thought! Seriously, UBS massively fucked up with whatever they did to their tech team but this is clearly goes to misinformation at some point especially when other non-shitty groups are put in the same bucket.
Agreed.
B-b-b-b-but LevFin !!!!!!!!111!1!1
Lev Fin number one exporter of potassium, all other groups are run by little girls
Does OP or anyone else here have any insight into why UBS has been aggressively recruiting on almost all fronts (analysts, MBA associates, senior level) in IB and Wealth Management for the past couple of years while many banks are reducing headcount? Is it bc their turnover rate is insane?
They aggressively poached from my friends' teams at JPM and some other bulge brackets and gave a return offer to all but one of the MBA associates from my friend's school.
UBS as a firm is largely focusing on growing in the Americas and that is reflective in their WM and IB hiring strategy. They want to be the most aggressive hirers and have money to burn given it's the world's largest wealth manager. America's is by far the largest untapped area for their firm; not even top 10 in IB and not even top 3 in WM, much easier to grow here and gain market share versus going from top 3 or whatever they are to 1st in APAC IB for instance.
Has the hiring work? I don't think so. Are they intensely hiring and most likely going to continue to do so because it's the most efficient path to growth? Also yes.
They have to be aggressive because no one in their right mind wants to go there and a lot of people leaving
I get that this is an IBD post. But how does ubs perform in s&t? Degree apprenticeships are something i’m extremely focused on for this cycle and UBS offer a global markets apprenticeship. Anyone with any insights on s&t @ ubs would be helpful
OPs post is clearly AI assisted. if you’ve been using ChatGPT you know.
Associate2’s post is clearly dumb assisted. If you have a brain you know.
it has correct details (like the mandatory 8am monday meeting town halls), so not fully AI
Right but "advice is our craft"? that isn't on any of our meeting materials. It's ChatGPT scraping the web for UBS public facing slogans / websites. SMH we used to troll by hand instead of robot
It's a switzerland bank and Im very sceptical after the credit suisse situation i would't trust switzerland banks with my money If i ever had that much money to be their client but UK Banks like Barclays are the best ones under the nice FCA protection schemes and regulations.
--All the glitters in the world not gold -- instead of hype and very good reputation dp your own research try to use logic and talk with other people who actually got experince ---!
If you have a lot of money the FCA protection is just a fraction of what it will cover from your total savings. And when you have “a lot” of money UBS is probably one of the best bets to park your money as it one of the leading wealth managers…
Yes i agree with you yes UBS is for wealthy people!
But average Joe can get decent servlce in UK Banks since UBS don't take brokies😎
Don’t join. I left a year ago and felt incompetent at my new firm for the first few months. Waste of your time and bonuses were horrible for legacy ubs
you mad that Tyrone the DEI analyst stole your girl and your A2A promote?
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