Which Indian immigrant/descent career is the most prestigious? (Rishi vs Vivek vs Sundar)
Rishi Sunak: Winchester college (T5 boarding school in UK) --> Oxford PPE --> GS M&A --> TCI HF (UK tiger cub equivalent) --> Stanford MBA --> marry billionaires daughter --> partner at TCI --> member of UK parliament --> Chancellor of the exchequer --> Prime Minister
Vivek Ramaswamy: Public school --> Harvard BS Biology --> Successful small tech startup exit --> GS internship --> QVT financial ($1Bn AUM HF?) --> Yale Law School (already NW of $15m at this point)-> Founder of Biotech Unicorn (gains billionaire status) --> Republican presidential candidate --> future VP pick??? --> future 2028 candidate???
Sundar Pichai: Indian high school --> top Indian engineering school --> Stanford engineering MSc --> PM at Applied materials (engineering company) --> Wharton MBA --> McKinsey consultant --> Google PM --> pioneers Google Chrome --> Google CEO
Vivek isn't an immigrant. Have some respect for this man and don't group with all the h1bs with funny accents.
Sorry just meant Indian immigrant/of Indian descent
I just think Vivek's story is more compelling. Even though CEO of Google or PM of the UK is more prestigious (or at least "high visibility") than what Vivek has achieved I have more admiration for a public high school kid from a poor background going to Harvard and creating a billion dollar startup from nothing. I'll always have more respect for creators and visionaries than for those who climb existing corporate or political ladders. I do however respect political outsiders who come out of nowhere and tear down the status quo.
Agree. Although Rishi has seemed to have a perfect career, Vivek is just more cracked. Rishi seems more luck based e.g. boarding school + marrying into billionaire family + being an establishment moderate conservative politician i.e. its a path which has been trodden before. There is nothing special or unique about that. Whereas Vivek appears a bit more rough around the edges but a lot more driven, smarter and a visionary. Like his career path is crazy and he actually made a billion himself, and burst onto the political scene from nowhere
He didn't come from a poor background per say though (parents were a doctor and an engineer), although it wasn't an upper class one with obvious connections/nepotism. And the unicorn wasn't exactly from nothing (essentially used HF money and expertise from that position to exploit a niche in the market). But yeah point still stands.
I guess you could say Rishi's career is like he was following "the path", whereas Vivek seems like a cracked guy who loves the game and doesn't care about following "prestige"
Imo Rishi seems more polished and likeable
Vivek wasn't poor, his dad was a lawyer for GE and his mom was a Doctor. He also went to a prep school for HS. His family were wealthy land owners in India as well.
It takes time to build up though. Ex: doctors don't get their first paycheck until their mid 30s and have a decade of med school tuition/loans to pay once they start working.
It’s very possible he didn’t grow up under the fanciest roof or in the nicest neighborhood
the indian that got crushed in that titanic submarine is most prestigious
He was Pakistani lmao
Love Vivek as a candidate and Roivant Sciences was a very interesting startup. MTS Health Partners had some analysts join their team soon after they did a few transactions for him. He's also not an immigrant as others mentioned.
Even Rishi is not an immigrant. Bro is literally the Prime Minister of the UK
It's a miracle Macron got elected as president of France as an ex-banker. They absolutely hate bankers in that country. Then again I don't know a lot of countries where people like bankers...
Not true at all. Lots of people have moved from banking to politics and vice versa over the last centuries. Most ppl are smart enough not to give a shit and judge on results except a few radical leftists which represent nothing.
Vivek
People are discounting Sundar's achievement here. Much more difficult to come out of poverty in India than to be a public school kid in the US (or come out of poverty in the US in general). Wealthy people in India can hardly make it in the US (partially because of the immigration laws), and Sundar didn't have enough money to go to the US (his father had to sell part of his farmland if I remember correctly). To come without any support, use your raw brain power to rise to the top seat in one of the greatest companies makes him more prestigious to me. Without looking at the path, becoming the PM of the UK is more prestigious than what the other two have accomplished so far
Working for applied materials is really impressive too. They take the most cracked stem grads from some of the hardest schools.
Agree with this. But would also say that Google CEO is likely more prestigious than a T2-3 country PM. Realistically Google is far more relevant than the UK and would argue Sundar has more power than Rishi. That's not even taking into account comp as well.
Agreed. People think politicians and the political elite control the strings of the economy but forget that they are mere puppets for corporate interests that are vested into determining the faith of the economy. Oh you don't want to have corporate friendly big tech laws that ensure a monopoly in the advertising space, provide high paying jobs and synergies with universities then go ahead and create a domestic alternative that no one cares about nor wants to use without facing scrutiny. Sunak is disposable, Sundar is not.
Good point and I agree. On a related point, a hundred years from now, business tycoons such as Jobs/Brin+Page/Bezos/Zuckerberg/Musk will be seen as more influential than any U.S. President in history except Washington, Lincoln, FDR.
Vivek went to a prep school for high school
He went to a school that costed 10k a year in Ohio bro…
It is literally a prep school. The average person in Ohio cannot afford prep school. Especially back when Vivek was there.
It's fine to like the guy, but you don't have to pretend/buy into the idea that he rode the struggle bus and was some super poor dude.
LOL yea.. that’s not very expensive for a private school, or any school for that matter
lmao vut
Regardless of their politics (I'm on the centre right and don't find Vivek politically outstanding nor anything other than a Trump shill), all of the 3 careers are super impressive even coming from decent, fairly comfortable typical Indian middle class families. Given Sunak was a complete outsider before he came PM, it's remarkable how he went from a backbench MP to Chancellor within 4.5 years and then became leader of the Tory Party (despite the members overwhelmingly hating him). Sunak was barely known as a backbencher, did nothing remarkable or noticeable during the Brexit deadlock period yet backed Johnson (reportedly he said Johnson would be disastrous yet could beat Corbyn) and got himself into Chief Secretary to the Treasury (Chancellor's 2nd in command) before being appointed Chancellor and overseeing the pandemic.
Wouldn't exactly say Winchester college is a typical middle class background (yes I know his parents were somewhat middle class but the connections and knowhow he would get from there certainly aren't). Also helps having billions of dollars behind you.
How about Punit Renjen
Local College --> Worked at a local company --> Got a scholarship to attend a mid university --> went on to become Deloitte CEO
I think in terms of building yourself from nothing and comeback story, his story is a good one
Personally I'd take Rishi's CV as the most prestigious on paper but he isn't doing very well as PM. Also find it interesting you find the need to justify TCI as a Tiger Cub equivalent - I'd have thought TCI's name and returns speak for itself
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