Hedge funds in RE
Which hedge funds are active in RE? Either credit or equity. How does recruiting work? Would it be possible to jump from industrials MF PE to a real estate arm of a HF? Having difficulty breaking into MF RE, so was hoping the HF world would consider my (unconventional) profile.
Baupost out of Boston. They take mostly equity positions but occasionally do credit.
There are other hedge funds that do real estate as well, but I forget their names. There are definitely a few that I have seen on WSO before.
Don't think baupost is hiring for RE anytime soon after having fired a sizable portion of their RE team a few months ago
They just closed a $1bn+ deal with KKR, would assume it will remain a a core strategy for them. To add, think Two Sigma has been focusing on RE as well, although not sure how they have performed as of late.
Davidson kempener, baupost, farallon, fortress,
Would not join re imo
why not?
U just look at same deal over and over again (some sort of mark to market or being lp in development), modeling / drivers for revenue is just… rent and costs are also very simple, can’t take reits private bc there are no more to take private.
Would only work for re firms with super broad mandate like sculptor, but even then, once u go in, u can’t leave / have to get a worse job if u want to switch industries.
Only makes sense if ur senior already, and can clip nice rents for the rest of ur life
I appreciate the comment man. Not to be disrespectful, but I've done all modeling for all sorts of companies and assets. I'm no expert, but real estate modeling is very similar to corporate modeling, just with different vocab. It's all just arithmetic. Cash flow models, DCF, LBOs, mergers models, driving assumptions...you can't escape it. Each deal is different by geography, by asset class, by capital needs, and business plan. Using a blanket statement as "some sort of MTM" or "being lp in development" criminally underplays how complex underwriting those deals can be. Part of my desire to join real estate is seeing some of the smartest people I know join RE years ago, they saw an opportunity coming that I am finally starting to see as well.
Modeling the millionth SaaS company or a literal flagpole company, both of which I've done, are mind-numbingly boring and honestly useless skills. PE as an industry only really makes sense if you are senior already. I figure I might as well do something that is actually interesting and has real upside for the future.
Wexford Capital is another
Just being honest here, if you cannot break into a mega fund REPE team, odds of getting into a HF RE group is slimmer. Teams are smaller and so are resources.
Baupost, Two Sigma, Elliott, Hudson Bay, Silver Point Capital, and Strategic Value Partners are a few firms that do real estate both credit and equity
I recently interviewed for two of these firms at the associate level. The interview questions were the same as any other REPE. Models were much harder. Expectations are higher too meaning if they need someone who has experience in XYZ and you only have XY they'll find someone else who has everything. Generalist REPE's in my experience are more lenient.
Really appreciate the info. I started in tech IB then didn't like it so have been working in industrials at a MF for my associate years. I had sophomore summer internship in real estate that I really loved. But, it has been hard to lean into this to sell my story. I am pretty averse to B-school as I don't believe there are many avenues to MF RE from B-school like IB and the rest of PE. In short, it seems I've missed the train to break in, which is why I was hoping a HF would consider more unconventional backgrounds. Thanks for the honest thoughts!
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