Cold email advice from analyst
A couple pieces of honest advice when writing cold emails. People may say I'm overly critical but I get 5 of these a day so I am looking for any reason not to respond...
-Do not address an analyst or associate as "Mr. XXXX" . Literally my biggest pet peeve. I understand that you think you are being respectful but you come off looking like a goober / somebody I would not want to work with. I'm 23 not 43. Don't be a brown noser.
-Ease up on the embellishment of your words. I.e don't say "I was SO ELATED to hear from you that Goldman doesn't treat it's analysts like a cog in the wheel" - use every day / honest language as much as possible. If you embellish it just makes me think that you're a suck up / desperate. You want to frame yourself as somebody that we would be lucky to have. If you use embellished language you frame yourself as somebody that would be lucky to have us.
-Try to avoid BS buzzwords as much as possible. Don't tell me you are interested in Goldman because of our "lean deal teams" and "unique culture". It's BS. You know it and I know it. Do tell me you are interested in learning more about my experiences at the firm and my story.
-Do attach your resume. Some people may argue but I don't return the calls of anybody that doesn't attach their resume because I assume you aren't attaching it because it's not up to par. I will want to vet you at least a little bit to ensure its worth my time before agreeing to talk to you. It does neither me nor you any good to spend 20 minutes talking about the firm if you have 0 shot.
-Don't spend half your email talking about how you know how busy I am and that I have 0 time but you would be oh so grateful yada yada yada. Just keep it short and sweet. "I would appreciate the opportunity to learn more about your experience at Goldman"
- Don't tell me you found me on LinkedIn. If you don't know anybody that I know - I know that's how you found me but it comes across as creepy if you actually go out say it. Just don't mention how you found me.
-Keep it short and to the point. I'm honestly more likely to reply.
Obviously just one guy's feelings...
"-Do attach your resume." - I've heard mixed things about this. Many people from the industry say it's a great way to get dinged quickly. I've personally had a "we're not hiring" or "I've forwarded your resume to HR" by doing that, and then the conversation breaks down completely. I've had better luck establishing some sort of relationship by asking to speak for 5 minutes. After that, the person I'm speaking to usually asks me to send them my resume once/if they realize i'm "somewhat of a decent human being" to speak to; that way I've managed to land an interview.
Also, do Analyst's typically have the power to land a potential recruit an interview? I've had experience at a BB, and usually when an Analyst refers a person to a opportunity, its a "fuck you" from the VPs.
In the UK at least, yes.
Sent in an app to MS/GS/JPM for S&T summer intern, heard nothing as other people were getting interview. Good friend of mine sent HR an email (didn't say what was in it other than a positive recommendation, but needed my full name as on my application) got an emaill the morning after he sent the email with an interview invite.
Did your friend happen to have connections to HR? Or was it a cold email?
+SB
Just for my knowledge, how would you as an analyst decide whether they have a shot after looking at their resume?
I've heard having a link to your linkedin profile in your email signature works as a good way to give someone your resume without having to attach it.
Never thought of that. Interesting....
Iv definitely heard both sides of the story on attaching the resume. Some think it's pushy, others don't. I think it also depends if you have any connection to the person. If you have a connection then you are really asking for more of a personal favor in which case I would agree you should not attach it. If you are literally cold emailing then I would simply write "I have attached my resume for your reference"
It depends on the group whether an analyst can get somebody an interview. I work at an EB and we absolutely have the power. At bulge brackets that have formalized recruiting personel I think all an analyst can do is forward your resume which probably doesn't count for much.
Just out of curiosity, how large is your alma mater? I go to a pretty small semi-target LAC so alums are generally expected to be really loyal when it comes to networking.
I went to a large school by any standards. As a result, I really only give preferential treatment to those in the same organizations I was in. For better or worse, I feel much more loyalty to the smaller organizations than to the larger school.
This is something I would do as well.
Personally, would you entertain Facebook messages from someone who is a second degree connection? Eg, Person A was person B's subordinate at your previous company. Person B was your junior in a small team back at that previous company and you have moved to a larger firm. Would you entertain a message from person A?
Next, wouldn't the following sentence, "I would appreciate the opportunity to learn more about your experience at Goldman", sound too generic? Or is that fine with you?
I definitely agree with attaching your resume. Just finish the email with something like "I attached my resume for context". That makes it come across as less pushy.
This. It worked for me in the past.
great post, I get quite a bit of these emails and completely agree. attaching resume is definitely a must.
personal recommendations won't be enough to get your interviews if you don't have a strong profile, but if you are borderline (ie. have good experience, but only a 3.5 GPA, etc), it can be quite helpful. there's a bit of subjectivity in resume selection so even at BB, a recommendation from a current employee can definitely help.
Great advice.
what would you recommend saying instead of "learning about what you do" in order to establish a connection or reason to call?
Thanks for sharing. How much power do EB analysts have?
Any opinions on the inmail from linkedin instead?
Doesn't InMail require a premium account? But I know standard connection request messages have a small character limit. Email is normally the way to go. And a lot of people never check LinkedIn while they tend to be in their inboxes all day.
I like it when they attach their resume - we both know exactly why the student is reaching out, no one wants 'insights' from my illustrious career of turning pages at god knows what hour in the morning.
I disagree on the LinkedIn part, unless they're at my alma mater, I am going to wonder how they found me. If they're just randomly emailing people they found on LinkedIn, then I'd rather they say just say something to that effect. It's not actually that weird when trying to break into the industry.
Great advice and thread. However, I have been following this format for a year now with a very low response rate. Not sure if it is my format or because I am from a non-target. Basically my entire email is: " Hello Bob,
My name is John Smith. I am a recent graduate from Non-Target College passionate about a career in equity research. I found your information on LinkedIn and wanted to reach out, as I am particularly interested in consumer focused sectors. [or whatever sector they cover] I am currently an equity research associate intern at Sell-side firm.
While I am sure you are busy, I would sincerely appreciate a few minutes of your time this week, to discuss your career, time at Company, and experience in the industry. Id be happy to accommodate your schedule to the best of my ability. Thank you in advance and I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards,
John Smith (000) 000 - 0000 LinkedIn Profile Link
"
I usually attach my resume with the email, although don't explicitly mention it as, like someone else said, I don't want to come across as shallow just asking for a job. If anyone has any tips Id love to hear them.
When I email an analyst/ HR rep with a position I know is open, I usually add a line saying "I have attached my resume and would be grateful if you could forward it to the proper hiring manager, if that is not you."
Two weeks into my first year at a BB (without having been an intern aka without much credibility), I had the power to get people interviews (or not) and even conducted interviews with candidates from my alma mater for first rounds and did interviews (with associates) at the super day. So it totally depends on the bank, but I definitely enjoyed being on the other side of the process so soon after starting.
Did you go to a target? You should do a post of how to get in BB without SA if you haven't already. I know that isn't really isn't the most consistent way to get in BB but it would be cool to know how you were able to do it.
I went to a target for Houston/oil and gas IB that also sends a few kids to NYC and other groups every year. Not sure how useful a post like that would be coming from me since I just did OCR and networked with people at Houston banks I either knew from school or through family. Plus I had a relevant internship with similar work to IB. But if there's anything you want to ask further or that I can help you with, shoot me a PM
It's not creepy to say you found them on linkedin. It happens.
Tips for dos and donts for cold E-mails (Originally Posted: 02/04/2009)
Hi all,
In my networking experiences, it has been best not to attach resume, but rather something 3 lines or less.
"Hi my name is [ ] and I am a student at [ ]. I came across your firm........can we schedule 15-20 mins to discuss your [few reasons why you want to talk ] etc. blah blah Thanks."
This makes them more likely to both read it, and respond. You have to play the game, and get them to ask for your resume.
I generally omit the resume. If they reach out and ask for it, then they're the ones who began a conversation about getting a job. I generally say something along the lines of.
"Hi, My name is ______. I am interested in beginning a career in finance, and was looking around on the alumni directory for someone in the industry to speak to. I was hoping you might be willing to spare a few moments to talk to me about your job and give me some advice on what I should do and expect as I try to find out if finance is for me. If you could get back to me if you have a few moments to speak, that would be really great. You can reach me at (email). Thank you.
Sincerely, (name)
Try not to copy that verbatim, maybe mention their firm or something specific to you, and be sure you have some good questions and thoughts for when you speak to them. Also, what year are you? I'd suggest mentioning that in your email. But no resume until they ask.
Thanks for your advice guys much appreciated!
Just to play a little Devil’s Advocate here, I have always included my resume when reaching out to Alumni. Helps them get a better perspective of your profile, and if you have a really good resume, they will have more of an incentive to follow up with you regarding that 15-20 min phone call that tmcgowan was talking about.
In my personal experiences, I have gotten very good results in attaching my resume to the opening email.
I'd say you are better off not attaching it to the original email... but rather include some interesting tidbit to show that you know about the firm or the person's job. Then you get the chance to follow up again and attach your resume.
I say this because if you just send me your resume and ask me to call you, there's a chance that if I don't like your resume, I may not feel like calling (and it looks more like you're just trying to use us and don't really care to talk)
i would say don't attach either, its very assuming.
Just say you want to have a chat with them about their business and how they ended up where they are and see if they have any advice for a future grad of their college.
I think it goes either way to be honest...everyone knows why you are contacting them..why not just attach it and let them see what inevitably will be sent to them in the end. especially nowadays nobody wants to waste time.
I'd have to agree with most of the posters here. Don't attach your resume until they come asking for it. Ever read the art of seduction? It's more persuasive if you play a little coy...
I cold-contacted a bunch of alumni in another country (think thousands of miles away) a few months ago and successfully sat down for a meal with 80% of them. Now I am still busy developing those relationships! They wanted to get to know me even without looking at my resume!
Good luck...!
I would say that when reaching out to alumni, most of the time they ask me to send my resume over. So I just attached my rsume whenever contacting alumni. If its strictly cold email people without any connection or relationship, I would not attach my resume. How does that sound?
I get tons of emails from newbies and I'll agree with most of the points in the post. The best advice I can give is to keep it simple, to the point, use normal language, research the company, team, and culture, and be honest. If your resume is a long shot, I would appreciate you mentioning that in your cover email WITH a reason why you want to be here and why you think you could be a valued and contributing member of the team.
Cold e-mail / lateral tips for small satallite offices of middle-market banks (Originally Posted: 04/30/2014)
Hey Monkeys,
If you were trying to lateral (am not a banking analyst but in a related field) to a small satellite office that doesn't appear to have any formal recruiting or recruiter contact, how would you go about it?
An office like, (please humor me here) HW Cleveland, OpCo Baltimore etc.
No alumni at the particular office. Not sure how the cold e-mail etiquette changes from undergrad to professional.
Thanks.
bump for the morning
Friday bump
cold email to a rainmaker within the satallite office. below is a sample template or you can always search for one within the WSO database. do not mass-spam the entire office, I would limit to 1-3 people on staff.
http://www.law.harvard.edu/current/careers/opia/toolkit/networking/samp…
Thanks for the response - those templates look good but are still alumni based; I have nothing in common with anyone at this office except being currently based in the same city. I'm just a non-target kid who doesn't like his current job and wants to try to break into their small banking office.
You think an MD would be the most appropriate contact or somebody more junior would tend to be more responsive?
Try finding articles of recent deals that this satellite office might have done and bring that up as a talking point.
I am interning this summer at a MM satellite office, and there was no formal recruiting. I emailed the head MD (albeit he is an alum of my school) and scheduled an office visit.
Good idea but not sure if that's a little awkward to mention in an introductory cold e-mail - would think that'd be more of something I'd mention if I can get to an informational interview stage to show that I've done my homework on the office. Maybe I can find some way to work it in, though.
Appreciate the responses.
Thanks, I'll try a few capiq searches and see if anything turns up. Think this office does mostly 50-200mm deals so I think that's why it's been tough to find recent information.
Look, just tell the person about yourself, why are you contacting them (job), and that if they have anytime in the next week or so, if they would be willing to talk on the phone for a bit. No reason to beat around the bush. If you are qualified and they are looking to hire, then the stars will align from that.
How to counter objections when sending cold emails (Originally Posted: 02/22/2016)
Hi,
Hope everyone is well.
I am currently networking trying to get a summer internship in the industry. BB recruiting is passed so I am currently focused on networking my way into MM and boutiques by sending cold emails to different firms.
I don't know how to proceed when I get responses saying "Thank you for reaching out, but for our summer internships, we generally limit them to undergraduate students that are rising-seniors and in the past we have not had any graduate student interns. " I am currently a first-year graduate student (masters program not MBA and I don't have full time working experience) and I often don't know how to counter this kind of objection when I receive responses like that.
My background: Semi target school in NYC and I am currently doing an equity research internship at a boutique( it's a research firm and doesn't have IB).
How would you advise this? Any insights would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks.
With regards to attaching your resume, it really depends. Some people may find it too direct while others may appreciate your drive.
You shouldn't focus on overcoming objections, but rather on rethinking your approach. If anyone straight up asked for an internship via a cold email I would simply deny them, it's presumptuous. Instead ask for an informational interview. Say how you'd like to talk and learn more about their career.
Thank you.
I thought about asking for informational interviews before, but I was a bit worried that I am currently a bit behind the recruiting process and informational interviews usually take longer time to have results. Do you think I should ask all firms for informational interviews (whether it's a relatively well-known boutique or a real boutique) or only asking people who work in relatively well-known boutiques for informational interviews and send cold emails to the rest of the smaller firms? I tend to notice that people who work in smaller firms are not very responsive to informational interviews request.
What do you think my approach should be?
Thanks,
Personally, I'll say that I've had good success with short emails. I generally use a 3-4 sentence email saying why I'm writing, ask politely to talk, and then suggest a time before signing off with a thank you.
Response rate is in neighborhood of 3/4....which is pretty damn good compared to the rates most people get on here.
In my case I generally don't attach a resume. I'm mostly writing either vets or alumni which means they either have a pretty decent idea what it's already going to look like or already know the academic level that I'm at. In either case I'm going with the safer "if they want it they'll ask for it" policy.
How to send a cold email to another consulting firm if you want to move as an experienced hire (Originally Posted: 12/15/2017)
Change of plans in life. Anyway.
I'm trying to reach out to someone in the McK/BCG education practice. I studied education at school and have been working in an education practice doing education DD, but would like a broader range of work, which is why I'm looking.
How does this process go? What do I say when I email him? Is this one of those coy games where I ask for a phone call or should I be frank about my intentions that I would like to work there (even though he surely knows)?
Thanks. Bananas to anyone who can help.
Making Gravy, hey, look at the bright side, at least you didn't get a ton of monkey shit thrown at you...here is my best guess on threads that might be helpful:
If we're lucky, maybe these professional users will respond: Albert-Ateng dfjaramillo Ruggles
If those topics were completely useless, don't blame me, blame my programmers...
Let's add:
Don't ever email someone you don't know your resume with no message body and a subject that says "Resume For Your Review"
I swear I've seen a half dozen of these
Would this be a effective cold email? (Originally Posted: 10/31/2013)
I go to master finance program at XXX university(2nd tier) in New York. I am planning to send cold emails to all the boutique banks I could possibly find. I feel cold call might take too much time, instead I want to try to send a couple hundreds emails in a few days. Before sending, I want to have WSO monkey fellows to give me some advices whether this is a effective cold email. Thanks! I appreciate your kind comments.
Dear XXX,
I am XXX, a current full-time student at XXX University in Finance graduate program. I am looking for internship opportunities to gain experience in investment banking industry. I am eager to launch a career in this industry with forward-thinking mindset and global view. I will contribute my effort and time to this collaborate environment, as well as my background knowledge, professional work ethics and a positive attitude to add value to your company. Please let me know if there are any opportunities available. Please find my resume attached. I am looking forward to speaking with you soon.
Best regards,
XXX
A little too generic/obscure, doesnt really show how youre different from the thousands of other kids cold emailing, or why youre interested in their bank in particular.
also, read it to yourself out loud, you will spot the grammar issues.
Grammar issues and too generic. Try reaching out to alumni's as well.
2nd tier you say in NYC, Pace University?
Fordham Univ.
You might also want to ask for more information about the company, and if there are any (position you are looking for) roles available for which you could apply.
I would hate to receive that. I would not reply. I am looking for a global view. I will only reply if you sound socially intelligent.
I have to agree with the other guys, you're making it way to easy for them to tell you no. If you ask for a job in your initial e-mail they can easily brush you off by telling you that they have no opportunities. If you personalize the e-mail and try and build a relationship it makes it harder for them to be a dick to you. Yes, the game you are playing is a numbers game, but you don't win by squandering off your leads by sending a generic e-mail blast.
Was in investment banking for a couple years before working in PE (the last three) and I've received a ton of these. I agree with most points except the resume one. I hate it when people send me their resume in the first note. I've always recommended people say in that first email, "If you don't mind chatting, I'd be happy to follow up with a resume" - its about building a relationship for me, not spamming wall street and I appreciate it when people don't just expect shit from me. The goal for these folks is to have a phone conversation with me, I'm not trying to recruit them. I'd rather them tell me about their background than scan through a resume (look I agree its not the most efficient route but you can pretty much guarantee an F-U from me if you've got a resume in that first email - particularly if you're cold emailing me).
Also, maybe its because I came from a non-target is why I have that bias. People can ding you on the basis of shit like that without you even having the opportunity to tell your story. I'm a resume reviewer for WSO and have edited well over 60+ resumes so I know more than anyone how important the resume is. But when people get dinged and don't get an opportunity to present themselves because you didn't like an "Interest" on their resume, its fucking unfair. Its happened to me a ton and hence the bias.
End of rant
Need some advice (cold emailing/networking) (Originally Posted: 03/08/2015)
Hey all,
I'm a senior at UCLA with a non-finance degree (humanities). I've recently become interested in IB and I have a few questions. I do understand it's a hard road ahead. I have taken classes in business statistics and calculus though.
1) I don't have any real finance job/internship experience. The closest to finance I've gotten is being the finance chair of an organization here (along with being EVP of another large organization with a lot of capital).
2) My overall GPA is near a 3.0 (chem/bio classes didn't do my GPA well) so I don't feel I'm competitive for traditional recruitment (my major GPA is a 3.8, however). I'm also a senior, so my opportunities for campus recruiting also go away.
I've been cold emailing a lot lately (I started with HR and career info emails) and only got one reply saying that I should apply later this spring during their traditional summer intern recruitment. I lately switched my cold email recipients to MDs indicating my interest in IB (M&A specifically) and asking if I could have a word with them for 15 minutes at their convenience. I emailed last night (Friday) and haven't gotten any replies yet (Saturday night).
I'm applying to boutiques in the LA/SF area. Does me being a UCLA student (and soon to be grad) help my chances of getting in?
Should I send my cold emails out during normal business hours instead of at night? Also, does my major in the humanities (cultural/ethnic studies) completely ruin any chances of me being in the banking industry? I'm patient and I'm willing to do any sort of work to assist my entrance into the industry.
Thank you.
First piece of advice -- change your username. I strongly recommend retaining some form of anonymity. Currently anyone can copy and paste your username into LinkedIn and find you instantly.
I can't tell if this is a troll post or not -- the remark about not receiving responses to cold emails sent out to MDs on a Friday night suggests that or an overwhelming amount of naivete in contacting professionals in finance.
Assuming you are being serious, I think you are going to have a very hard time finding an IB job in the immediate horizon. It's not to say people can hop on the finance train late in undergrad, but I think you have crossed a critical threshold point during your tenure as a student that makes it extremely difficult finding a job or even building up your resume. Practically all of those part-time internships at small boutique banks in the LA area during the school year go to younger students. These firms recognize the early drive some candidates have and understand they are going to work hard and absorb what they learn like sponges because they are eager to take on the opportunities as stepping stones for traditional SA recruiting their junior year. I'm not trying to sound cold or rub it in, this is just simply how it works with these opportunities in LA.
For FT recruiting, there may be some small boutiques that are still looking for new analysts. However, it sounds like your resume is a screaming liability. With the right attitude and personality, you can talk your way out the GPA concern and interest in investment banking. The job experience bit is going to be very hard to overcome though -- even if you can land interviews and nail your technicals, there is still the issue of just not having some kind of professional background that supports your abilities to perform well in an office environment. A lot of these smaller shops don't hire many new analysts, which means they are putting a lot of trust and responsibility on who they bring in. It doesn't matter if they are no name banks, they are still employers who need to find competent, well-qualified fresh graduates to fill their openings. Furthermore, since the spots in finance in LA are so limited, I am sure there are plenty of other candidates who are qualified for the spot that simply couldn't secure a FT offer from summer/position from the traditional recruiting cycle that will also be going after the opening.
I know this may come off as uninspiring, but this is reality of what I have seen with LA banking (I am sure it is relatively the same at the other major cities too, i.e. SF and NYC). As you already mentioned, it's not going to get easier once you graduate and OCR access is gone. That being said, if you are really committed to breaking in, apply to everything under the sun that is still available and loosely related to finance. It's important to land on your feet upon graduating (both for your resume and personal reasons) with some kind of job lined up. I assure you finding opportunities to lateral at a small boutique a year or so down the road will be much easier if you are productive with your time at some workplace and using your experience to reinforce your reasons for wanting to work in IB.
Best of luck man.
Cold email advice - CEO of a large MM firm that is alumni (Originally Posted: 11/27/2010)
I recently found a CEO of a large MM firm that is alumni of my non target, I was hoping if you guys could give me some advice as to what i should write him or if its even worth the giant shot in the dark?
Much Obliged
BB senior analyst here, not many posts, no time for it. I think both sides are giving too much though to something as simple as introducing yourself in a f*cking email.
To the OP: Son, if you discard talking to a potential candidate for not attaching his/her resume, you are a disgrace as a recruiter.
To the rest of you out there looking for a shot: everything is way simpler than you think; the fact that we landed a job that you want does not make us very different from you (despite some entitled Ivy League a-hole tries to make you think otherwise). Be nice and polite, without going overboard, and go to the point. The rest is a matter of opportunity and luck.
I wish you all the best of it
Definitely email him man, for the subject put "School name Student - Reaching Out" and for the body say you are looking for advice on your job search or are looking to be pointed in the right direction..What's the worst that can happen he ignores you? And if that happens just send him another short email saying you know he is very busy but a few minutes of his time would be very beneficial. You'd be surprised how much people are willing to speak with you.
I'm a bit tipsy, so I just assumed you and the CEO are male.. Hope that's alright
Definitely reach out.
In your email: -Introduce yourself and what you're studying etc -How you found his name/info (alumni directory? Linkedin? Referral? etc) -You're interested in pursuing a career in his industry (IB, S&T, etc) -Ask him if he wouldn't mind answering a few questions so that you may gain some insight -Keep it short yet to the point. The general rule is one blackberry screen long.
Hello Mr. XXXXX, I am a senior at XXXXX double majoring in Accounting and Business Management & Finance. As I’m searching for alumni contacts, I saw your name on the XXXX site and found your email through the net.
I am most eager to introduce myself as I am looking for an entry-level or intern position in the financial services industry. I do have some specific areas I’m interested in, however I’d love to talk to a person that can expose to me as much knowledge/advice as possible, especially; a CEO of a prominent I-bank such as XXXXX.
I'd highly appreciate a bit of your valuable time to chat. 5-10 minutes, you give me the time.
Much Obliged, XXXXX [email protected] XXX-XXXX-XXXX
HOW DOES THIS SOUND ?
LMAO i love you monkay.
That sounds good
Advice Needed - Cold Emailing Partners (Originally Posted: 03/11/2011)
So story goes like this
cold email Partner A at a boutique who was alum, got on the phone with him and chatted for awhile. Bonded well and he told me about a summer analyst last year who got in based on persistence cold calling everyone, which they finally decide to hire him. This partner A told me to contact Partner B for summer ops, because Partner B would be in charge for hiring decisions, although expect Partner B will initially turn me down.
Emailed Partner B and asked for coffee the week after, didn't say anything about summer internships. Partner B emailed back saying he doesn
t have time next week and they will not be hiring summer students because they just added one more <abbr title="full time"><abbr title="full time">FT</abbr></abbr> analyst onto their team earlier in Jan. To add to that, he says he doubt I
ll learn anything new that I havent from Partner A and other ppl I
ve talked to.Now in a dilemma as to what I should do. Should I still email back partner B saying I would be interested in getting that coffee and having that talk?
I mean I thought I really had a good bond with Partner A, but it seems like this Partner B is just being a dick to me and not helpful at all. What should I do?
Thanks in advance.
Have coffee, it will come off, blatantly, that you didn't want to invest in the relationship; just wanted a job.
if I were you I'd contact that summer analyst of last year, he can probably teach you a thing or two on how to get in...
bump anyone else?
When you are cold emailing... (Originally Posted: 08/16/2011)
What subject/email title do you use for your email?
"halp"
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"introduction" or "introduction - referral from ___" You can also title it internships, summer recruiting, etc if it's a more direct email.
And like I wrote on an earlier thread, if you want cold email samples just PM me.
"Reaching Out"
If I am emailing alumni I usually mention the school in the subject line. You need to realize that working people get a ton of emails. You want yours to stand out and be easily understood.
Current SCHOOL student/undergraduate seeking your advice
"Greetings"
How to say how you found someone's contact info when cold emailing (Originally Posted: 05/06/2012)
If I am cold emailing an alumni of my school, how should I say I found their contact info if I just received their first and last name through linkedin and I am just emailing first.last@bank.
In my experiences, they don't give a fuck how you found it. They already know their contact info is on the internet.
This. I never give any excuses for how I got their shit.
ediblebanana,
Just tell them straight-up and politely that you found him/her on Linkedin and that you are emailing for xyz reasons, hopefully that alumni is willing to pay it forward and help you out.
So just go ahead, if you wanted a sample, I have done that a lot while I was networking, happy to help.
I'd say, not exactly sure; but I did a lot of research and could have been on your website, from your assistant, linkedin or a friend. Or, you could tell the truth and just say you made up 10 emails and knew you'd eventually hit it right.
How to mention additional connections in a cold e-mail? (Originally Posted: 02/24/2013)
Cold emailing alumni of a teaching fellowship program I'm doing. Obviously, I can mention that I'm looking at alumni of the XYZ teaching fellowship program. But I noticed that one of the people (very high up) went to school in my hometown. I feel like this would be a good connection to mention to improve the chances of a reply but I'm not sure how to go about doing this.
"I also noticed you went to XYZ University. While I went to school on the East Coast, just wanted to mention that I grew up in ABC town and grew up a XYZUNIVERSITYMASTCOTNAME fan."
I feel like that sounds really forced and awkward, any thoughts?
Edit: I should also mention this is somewhere abroad, so imagine this is someone working in Beijing and we have the hometown connection, so it's not as insignificant as if he were working in NY.
Way too awkward. Just say you grew up in your hometown.
This might actually be a better approach than my initial though:
"I noticed your profile in the 123Teaching Program and was pleased to see someone else with an ABCTOWN connection."
"By the way, I grew up in ABC town, about a 10 minute walk from XYZ UNIVERSITY campus."
That seems even more random haha
Cold email advice - Came from a non-target (Originally Posted: 07/21/2013)
First post ever here, so bare with me: I'm from a non target, and although my gpa is low, I have two internships under my belt with two fortune 500s, non IB related, and was president of various organizations in college.
I have an alumni connection through one of these clubs who I have associated with on administrative work two years ago, but have not had contact with him since then. I cold emailed him a few weeks ago, knowing that he is very hard to get ahold of (from mutual friends). He responded back prompty stating that he would be happy to discuss opportunities with me, and whether or not I'd be available on such and such date. I responded immediately stating my desire to talk on that day, but he never got back to me.
I reinitiated my talk figuring he was busy a week later, again letting him know I was available any time. He never got back to that email either. I have a feeling he is just missing my emails, and not dodging them, otherwise he wouldn't have responded to me from the get go.
It's been a few weeks now, and he still hasn't gotten back to me, although I'm in no rush. What do you guys think of hand writing him stating my desire to talk to him about his career path and how he got started, etc? I don't want to come across as annoying, yet this is my best opportunity to speak with someone in the industry that I have. I'm open to any suggestions on how to approach him going into the future.
Thanks!
Ask simply to discuss his career on the phone. Ask for some advice. Don't ask for a position. Meet for a coffee and impress the alumni.
Thanks for the response, do you think I should keep badgering with emails or take a different approach by hand writing?
Emails or phone. Don't write letters. It's personal but takes too long.
Cold Emailing PE Head Advice (Originally Posted: 04/08/2018)
I go to a very small non-target school and will be joining a second tier BB (think BAML, Citi, CS) at a foreign city (think HK, London, Tokyo) as an Investment Banking Analyst. I am starting to think about exit ops, and my school has an alum who founded a Global top 50 AUM PE shop that is prevalent in the city I will be working at. Alums from my college are usually very responsive due to the small community so I would like to reach out to this guy but I don't want to screw up this one time opportunity.
Is it to early to reach out to him? and what would you email if you were in my position?
If you really are interested and can speak to your interest intelligently/articulately, I'd reach out now asking if he would be open to a quick phone call or coffee chat. It might be a bit early, but this may be a case where you're particularly better off building the relationship over time rather than right when recruiting kicks off
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