Comments (61)

Feb 11, 2009

got the offer already..deciding whether its worth it to take this offer or not or I should go to Lazard...seems like Lazard is a better choice for me...good luck

Feb 11, 2009

You got an offer from Moelis, Lazard, and BX M&A, huh?

just sign my offer this morning, superday was super hard i guess for non-finance major people, but pretty easy for me

So you signed your "offer" with BX M&A and now, all of a sudden, you're deciding between Moelis and LAZ? Go choke on a fat cock, lying piece of shit.

Feb 11, 2009

well, either he is a stud or he's lying lol BX moelis and lazard? wow haha

were you in citi LA superday too btw tran?

Feb 11, 2009
eric1025:

well, either he is a stud or he's lying lol BX moelis and lazard? wow haha

According to his posts, he has gotten (at least):

Offers from:

Blackstone M&A (signed)
Lazard
Moellis

Superdays from:

Barcap LA
Citi LA

1st Rounds with:

Thomas Weisel
CS LA
HLHZ Restructuring
Lincoln International
UBS LA/SF Tech

Based on the amount of detail he gives and his apparent sincerity, I'd say the kid's legit.

Feb 11, 2009

I understand other people frustration, i was in that state as well...i am going to be honest...i didnt get offer from citi or barcap...but dont understand why its so hard to get an offer from Moelis, my boss is a really close friend of warren woo so i am hooked up...Lazard LA is just a middle market IB bearing the name tag of Lazard so i guess it wouldnt be too difficult after all that being said i wouldnt say the recruiting process at Moelis...i also know Chinh Chu pretty well so a phone call from BX wouldnt be a surprise as well ....if you want more details more than happy to provide...

Feb 12, 2009
ttran86hcm:

I understand other people frustration, i was in that state as well...i am going to be honest...i didnt get offer from citi or barcap...but dont understand why its so hard to get an offer from Moelis, my boss is a really close friend of warren woo so i am hooked up...Lazard LA is just a middle market IB bearing the name tag of Lazard so i guess it wouldnt be too difficult after all that being said i wouldnt say the recruiting process at Moelis...i also know Chinh Chu pretty well so a phone call from BX wouldnt be a surprise as well ....if you want more details more than happy to provide...

Chinh Chu doesn't even work for Blackstone M&A. He's PE, smart guy.

I also call BS on his so-called interviews with BX M&A.

Feb 11, 2009

How does that explain that, in this thread, you said you were deciding between Laz and Moelis (with Laz being the better choice though Laz LA is MM), while in the BX M&A thread you said you had already accepted and signed the offer letter? Not to mention you posted you had already signed the BX M&A offer one minute before you posted you were deciding between Moelis and Laz. Makes no sense.

Feb 12, 2009

I agree with jimbrown, this kid is a piece of shit

Feb 12, 2009
ibankguru:

I agree with jimbrown, this kid is a piece of shit

agreed... even Edward Jones would turn him down

Feb 12, 2009

First: I truly apologize for your misunderstanding, what i meant was that i did get the offer from Moelis and Lazard LA and I really like the people at Lazard so i would recommend WhartonBeere to consider going to Lazard...so, there is a miscommunication here...
Secondly: you can call me piece of shit or fake or whatever but sorry that still doesnt change the fact that i got the job and you dont and you are just pissing off because someone is actually better than you...suck it up man...

Believe it or not, again, it is up to you so again and again sorry if I insulted anyone in here...but if you want to know what they ask during the superday at Moelis please pm me...overall great office great bankers but not so many deals going on...expect to work 80-90h/w

Feb 12, 2009

ttran:

can you give more information on how you know the dealflow @ Moelis (LA or overall?). It was my impression that Moelis was doing especially well this time of year.

Feb 12, 2009

He's clueless. This kid has been talking about BX M&A in New York - at least suggested he's at BX in New York - and there's no way they're recruiting a USC kid these days. Especially a kid who communicates as poorly as ttran.

Feb 12, 2009

I think he exhausted his finance knowledge/vocabulary in that one post on BX m&a... the kid is clueless about it all.. How to build an LBO model, let's be serious, there are analysts out there who don't know how to do that and this kid figured it out all on his own?

Ok so i run the probability of an SA at a PE shop, still leaves a small % for this kid to actually know how an LBO model works...

if you know an LBO model so well, why don't you tell me how you woul create deferred assets/liabilities and model NOLs..

Feb 12, 2009

did anyone hear back from Moelis NY post the interviews last week?

Feb 12, 2009

I have a buddy at Cornell who received an offer yesterday.

Feb 12, 2009

As I said earlier, I did do a sophomore BB internship. I learned some LBO modeling but it was minimal. I stress it on my resume, but they know that I don't have any extensive knowledge. No sophomore learned extensive LBO and M&A modeling and that's a fact.

And ttran, I have an offer from a top boutique and final rounds with all of the others.

Feb 12, 2009

tran sounds like he's full of it. since when does bx recruit at USC?

Feb 12, 2009

Since when do they recruit kids who scored a 400 on the verbal portion of the SAT?

I'm surprised he even got into USC...

Feb 12, 2009

what is the big deal with lazard and moelis. they are not a top BB... the blackstone thing does sound cool, but the rest is just "normal".

Feb 12, 2009

You obviously don't know much about the industry...

Feb 12, 2009

Um... They are more prestigious than most BB. Lazard is not recruiting at USC, nor is Evercore, and Moelis probably isn't either. It's more difficult to get into one of those three than it is to get into, say, DB.

Feb 12, 2009

Lazard NY and SF may not be recruiting at USC, but I wouldn't go as far as saying Lazard LA doesn't. I don't go there so I don't know...but I wouldn't be surprised at all if they did.

Feb 12, 2009

There seems to be some misconceptions going on here. I did not go to USC nor do I know who recruits there, but it does not mean it's not possible to interview from there. It's called non-target recruiting.

Feb 12, 2009

congrats on those who got the offers...i am happy for you...just like that, no need to be so hated guys...anyone who got offer at BX...i will be seeing you guys there...interested in sharing an apartment with me in Midtown...anyone?? and btw, I didnt say i interviewed with Chinh Chu, he recommended me to the MA group...just for further information...Chinh Chu himself didnt have to go to Ivy and he still managed to buy $25mil apartment on Fifth..so guys just because you go to Ivy it doesnt mean that you are entitled to all the offers and other people arent...good luck with that mentality

Feb 12, 2009

ttran86hcm you shall forever be known to my as "AJ" King of the douche bags!

Feb 12, 2009

You're an idiot. You do know that analysts do hop on WSO to read about the firms they're working at right? If I was an analyst at any one of your "offer firms" I would NOT be happy with the way you're talking about these firms.

You're throwing big names (Warren Woo, Chinh Chu) around and flaunting connections. Even if everything you are saying is true, if anyone from those offices saw the attitude you're carrying yourself with, you'd be red flagged from day one. Be smart, it would not be hard to identify you at all.

Feb 13, 2009
  1. He interned last year at RSM Equico Capital in Costa Mesa, CA.
ttran86hcm:

Hey guys, does anyone in here know anything about RSM,I am planning to intern with them this summer in their headquarter office at Costa Mesa, CA. I know its a very small firm but they are ranked by Thomson MM, provided with this kind of shitty market, i would take anything that i could so that i can get some experience out of it and prepare for the fall recruiting process. Any advices about their culture, dealflow, and opportunities are sincerely appreciated.Thanks a lot.

2.For a guy with SOOOOooOOOO many connections he is really desperate to "leverage" into a BB

ttran86hcm:

Hey guys, quick question, i am interning at a small boutique in Costa mesa, CA, and most of the MDs were from BoA, do you think i can leverage their connections into BB next fall, please give me some advices of what i should do ...thanks

3.Also our oh so modest friend seems to loveeee begging as seen from this gem :)

ttran86hcm:

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT THE COMPANY AND ITS INTERVIEW?? PLEASE HELP ME OUT

Note this took 5min just by looking at your post history! By these post its very apparent that you are lying and also should bitch slapped Ari Gold style.

Feb 13, 2009

i've notice some immature punks like ttran in my firm already. I shall notify the firm

Feb 13, 2009

I want to see ttranny talk himself into a deeper and deeper hole, get his offer revoked, and spend the summer frying potato wedges at the local Arby's.

Feb 13, 2009

USC def does not get recruited by BX ARE YOU SERIOUS! USC is comparable to johnson state and SUNY Oswego judging by TTRAN no one can argue with this one PERIOD

Feb 13, 2009

I don't go to USC but tone down the hate! That is the exact elitism we're giving Tran shit about.

Save the elitism for Leveragedsellout, he does it much better.

Feb 13, 2009

I havent said a bad thing about the firm since the beginning of the post...only people who are trying desperately to get their feet in the door get really provoked and said shit about me...I work hard to get what I want even as a person coming from a non-target school, if the people at my firm see this they should be really relieved cuz they didnt waste their offer on a non-ivy dbag...so yeah people..btw i have never said that BX came to recruit on campus at USC..never..especially through my previous internship at rsm, i truly understand the idea of networking through the people in my office so if you guys havent learned it yet, please do so before you want to say shit about other people alright mate.

Feb 13, 2009

We're supposed to believe that you networked your way to these PE juggernauts? As I said before: Bull. Shit.

RSM to BX? hahaha. Now I HAVE to get an offer there just to call you out.

Feb 13, 2009

god, i had no idea BX = blackstone...

how is the training and experience at BX M&a compared to other BB. i mean, they are top PE, but i never saw their name on any big M&A deal.

Feb 13, 2009
toiysam:

how is the training and experience at BX M&a compared to other BB. i mean, they are top PE, but i never saw their name on any big M&A deal.

It's not like the deal went through, but they still worked on Microsoft's proposed acquisition of Yahoo

Feb 13, 2009
toiysam:

what is the big deal with lazard and moelis. they are not a top BB... the blackstone thing does sound cool, but the rest is just "normal".

toiysam:

god, i had no idea BX = blackstone...

how is the training and experience at BX M&a compared to other BB. i mean, they are top PE, but i never saw their name on any big M&A deal.

Wow, you really are clueless.

Do you not realize that Blackstone is the global advisor for AIG currently? Or like you-down-with-SEC said above, that they advised Microsoft on the potential Yahoo acquisition?

Feb 13, 2009

Try both, highly recommend...great opportunity for people like you

Feb 13, 2009

get a life. go network yourself, get a job and stop ranting on blogs like wso.

regardless if this guy got the BX job or not, who cares. freakin tools, i bet 90% of the people hating are people in college with no jobs.

Feb 13, 2009

Why wouldn't Blackstone recruit at USC? Blackstone recruits at UT Austin, UVA.

Feb 13, 2009

UT Austin and UVA are better undergraduate business schools than USC.

Feb 13, 2009

Moelis & Lazard recruit at USC.
BX doesnt as far as Ive been told. Every other bank does for sf/la office.

Feb 13, 2009

BX doesn't recruit directly out of USC, but kids from USC can still get interviews at BX NY.

Easy test for ttran86hcm, just name a few of the VPs you interviewed with and their industry focus.

It's really not that unbelievable that someone from USC can get offers from Moelis, LAZ, and BX - the University of Spoiled Children has a lot of connections and some of the students are pretty legit..

Feb 13, 2009

It's not really that we don't believe it's possible. There was just another thread talking about BX M&A, and he posted in that thread, "I got an offer from BX M&A and signed it this morning." Then, one minute later, he posts here saying, "I got an offer from Moelis and now I'm deciding between Laz and Moelis, but Laz looks like the best choice."

So that's likely why he is getting called out.

Feb 13, 2009

Fair enough.

Feb 13, 2009

Classic, sorry but there is no way that USC get recruited by BX period. Please stop arguing. Moelis maybe.....but judging by their roster I doubt it.

Feb 13, 2009

Dipset, do you personally know that or are you just assuming? Looking through the analysts at Moelis, it can clearly be seen that non-targets work at Moelis.
http://www.moelis.com/team/analysts.php
Some examples- Bowdoin College, Michigan State University, University of Kansas, University of Maryland, Denison University, University of California at Santa Barbara, UCLA and that's just halfway through the list. Please stop commenting on things that you do not know.

Feb 13, 2009
devilindisguise:

Dipset, do you personally know that or are you just assuming? Looking through the analysts at Moelis, it can clearly be seen that non-targets work at Moelis.
http://www.moelis.com/team/analysts.php
Some examples- Bowdoin College, Michigan State University, University of Kansas, University of Maryland, Denison University, University of California at Santa Barbara, UCLA and that's just halfway through the list. Please stop commenting on things that you do not know.

That was Moelis's first class. They were desperate for analysts then. Now that they have more of a name they can be more selective. This summer's class was significantly more competitive.

Feb 13, 2009
DontMakeMeShortYou:
devilindisguise:

Dipset, do you personally know that or are you just assuming? Looking through the analysts at Moelis, it can clearly be seen that non-targets work at Moelis.
http://www.moelis.com/team/analysts.php
Some examples- Bowdoin College, Michigan State University, University of Kansas, University of Maryland, Denison University, University of California at Santa Barbara, UCLA and that's just halfway through the list. Please stop commenting on things that you do not know.

That was Moelis's first class. They were desperate for analysts then. Now that they have more of a name they can be more selective. This summer's class was significantly more competitive.

Plus half of them were random laterals.

Feb 13, 2009

Dipset doesnt know shit...he just assumes that because he thinks only Ivy kids deserve a job in banking...suck it up man...btw i just want to reiterate that BX did not recruit at USC...about the possibility of networking my way to Lazard MM through RSM, you can check background of Dermott M. O'Flanagan, VP at Lazard MM or Darrin Kleinman a USC alumni as well...just FYI...

Feb 13, 2009
ttran86hcm:

Dipset doesnt know shit...he just assumes that because he thinks only Ivy kids deserve a job in banking...suck it up man...btw i just want to reiterate that BX did not recruit at USC...about the possibility of networking my way to Lazard MM through RSM, you can check background of Dermott M. O'Flanagan, VP at Lazard MM or Darrin Kleinman a USC alumni as well...just FYI...

ESL?

Feb 13, 2009

im not going to comment on if ttran86 is telling the truth or not, but i actually do have an offer from BX M&A NYC, Moelis NYC, and LAZ NYC and would like some help in terms of what would be the best option right now...

Feb 13, 2009
johndoe2010:

im not going to comment on if ttran86 is telling the truth or not, but i actually do have an offer from BX M&A NYC, Moelis NYC, and LAZ NYC and would like some help in terms of what would be the best option right now...

1) BX M&A
2) Lazard
3) Moelis

PM if you have any specific questions

Feb 14, 2009

Moelis and Lazard MM do recruit at USC. I know this for a fact although I do not attend the school.

P.S. - The crap you guys bicker about sometimes is outrageous.

Feb 14, 2009

The second tier schools you mentioned are all better than USC. USC blows which TTRAN nicely parallels. Moelis might offer 1 SA offer but I doubt the turnover rate from that is high which is shown by 0 USC students on the analyst roster. I love how TTRAN mentions one USC alum who is at lazard. Grow up, and if you were sincere about your offers you wouldn't boast and also lie that you previously interned at a BB which you didn't because you simply werent good enough.....................I hear tool academy season 2 is casting...you might want to give that a shot because you probably wont get a FT offer.

Feb 14, 2009

dipset, quit being so condescending and elitist. I don't know and I don't really care whether ttran has any of those offers, but your bitterness from being an ivy graduate who can't get anyone's attention is painfully apparent (IS JEFFRIES SERIOUS?!?). Come on man, wake up and quit being an idiot. Your school does not limit you by any means, it just makes everything harder.

I have no qualms with a USC grad getting into any of those banks, I just found it incredulous that he would so openly boast about it in such broken english. Regardless, he doesn't have to prove himself and you need to get your head of your ivy league ass.

Feb 14, 2009

Agreed with jman - quit being so bitter about your inability to land a gig. It's no one's fault but your own.

Feb 14, 2009

Seriously, I didn't know some people actually took the elitist satire from Leveraged Sell-Out to heart... I'd understand if you were rocking out hard with offers, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Actually, I haven't even seen people from H/Y/P with numerous BB offers take on the attitude you continuously display in your posts.

It's really a little saddening. Maybe this sense of entitlement shines through in your interviews and keeps you from getting offers? No one at a bank likes arrogance, especially at the analyst level...

I'm not arguing whether USC is a great or horrible place, but please, just give it a rest.

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