What Bank Has the Most Shills
Title, curious to see if some firms are glazed more than they deserve
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Wells Fargo
WF, JEFF, GUGG lol
Huge bump lmao
What you mean glaze? Jeff is tier Olympus! Especially their RX team, the top of the world!!!!
Gugg
Anything negative about PWP gets MS'ed to oblivion
This lol
Honestly WF is the only real answer. Jeff is appropriately rated imo. Gugg gets a lot of hate for what is just a low eb
congrats on JEFF!
Jeff
PWP, the shills there are some of the most insecure bunch
Definitely RBC. They always refer to themselves as a BB bank and they mention how they get on big deals even though they don’t do any work on said deals.
Gugg, Jeff, Lazard, MS, PWP
In EMEA:
PJT (barely ever on any big M&A deal), EVR (mainly does MM/UMM in Europe), PWP, Lazard (especially London, no exits and have been in perpetual decline here)
In Germany its similar. People here glaze PWP, while they do even less than in london., same with PJT. both with their mini office in Munich. Lazard is somehow the place to be here, followed by RTH.
Whats your view on the likes of William Blair & Baird in London? In germany they dont do anything but get glazed for their US reputation.
WB and Blair are pretty irrelevant in London to be honest.
All large deals in EMEA are hoovered up by the US BBs (and Barclays to a smaller extent), whereas MM deals (say €400-900m) are dominated by Rothschild and Lazard, with Evercore capturing a piece of that pie too.
This is a stupid thread cuz quite literally every bank will be mentioned
Yes but some more than others based on what I'm reading. JEFF, Gugg, PWP, WF and Laz seem to have the most fingers pointed at them
Wells Fargo is literally paradise. If you disagree then you've never worked here.
I roll out of bed at 8am to get to our incredibly beautiful Hudson Yards office by 9:30am. I make sure I play all the games on NY Times before 10am. I sit through some teams meetings with my camera off, I play on Microsoft Excel a little bit. I get staffed on an $85 billion Union Pacific acquisition but still have enough free time to hit on 23 year olds at the Spaniard. Bonus time comes around and I get to feel good about myself for outearning everyone at BofA while working way fewer hours.
I earn enough to do whatever I want and have enough free time to actually enjoy it. Charlie Scharf is the goat. Life is beautiful. Wells Fargo is paradise.
This is why this thread was made bro lol.
you cant read sarcasm
Do you have autism?
lmao
Wells and it isn’t even remotely close
.
Has anybody else noticed how amazing Wells Fargo is these days? Incredible deal flow, outstanding M&A fees, outsized compensation, and unmatched culture. Wells isn’t just an employer; it’s a friend; it’s a family; it’s an early retirement plan, if you ever want to retire from The Best Culture On The Street that is! You can all go to Church on Sunday morning if you want, I prefer to do my weekend worship at the Wells Fargo Hudson Yards Office.
Wells Fargo. Building Better Every Day©️.
Anyway, what was the question? Not sure which bank has the most shills tbh. Probably JEF
If you work at Wells Fargo, you well go far. Wells Fargo is life.
So uh.. is culture really bad at Wells, and if so, any specific ones? I'm trying to lateral there from BofA. I like my group, culture, hours, deal experience at BofA, but the pay is just so fucking bad at ME aka middle bucket.
Wells would pay more, but do the people suck? I don't care about deal experience, would be fine with phoning it in for a few years.
Culture has meaningfully declined over the years and not each group sees the deal flow increases that the negative culture is supposed to apparently bring.
Laz is insane. Historic brand prestige, sure, but out of the EB’s it pays the worst and exits the worst (per capita, adjusting for the class size).
Everyone shills
Where are you getting that from? LAZ certainly exits better than MOE, PWP, CVP (ofc this is diff), and I believe PJT on the M&A side but haven't seen as much from them.
Lmfao. Not even close to true about exits or comp.
Jeff and Gugg are the only right answers lol.
And probably BofA tbh, the pay is literally fucking dogshit
Fax - Wells Fargo 1st year analyst
What about these (idk what to call them) banks like Gordon Dyal and M. Klein etc? Yea they pay really well, but what else do you get out of being there? Like I've seen tier lists over here ranking them over HL and other tbh really good IBs, so was just curious. Also, isn't the work mostly pitching?
WF and RBC. The glaze on these institutions vs. the reality of their reputations and capabilities if you actually work in the industry (most on this website don't) is jarring. WF and RBC have 2-3 good/decent groups each and the others are absolute ass.
Citi is notoriously bad lol
Jeff and Gugg obviously too
PWP lol, they're a joke at this point
Sorry to hear about your $40k Barclays bonus
nah bro, I'm at an actual EB with dealflow and good trajectory that pays better than PWP. Congrats on PWP, though - the UBS of EBs
I really wanna say PJT lol. RSSG is deservedly elite, you could say M&A is rlly good etc, but those aren't the only two groups at the firm, and the rest are somewhat lacking. The way you'd see ppl on here glazing the firm, you'd believe every single group is the most elite on the street. That's not the case.
Moelis barring the LA office; all other offices are no different from Jefferies in terms of how many MM sponsor backed sell-side they do.
Moelis / Laz lowkey HELLA FUCKING SHILLS
PWP or LAZ, these folks are insecure as hell
Jeff or Gugg
Would say there is a unique disdain for Moelis on this forum among its EB peers and few shills (sweatshop lol)
Moelis is overrated as fuck.
High volume of middle market deals, tons of pitching, shit culture, way too sweaty, and bonus varies materially among top and bottom buckets, while most other EB’s keep the margin slimmer.
MS is lowkey all diversity hires lmao
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