Trader Documentary - Paul Tudor Jones (Must See)

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Below is a link to the Paul Tudor Jones documentary video that shows him predicting the 1987 Crash (he tripled his money during it). This is a must see for any trader and shows the legendary trader in action before he became a billionaire.

Although the video was shown on public television in November 1987, very few copies exist. Those that do are hoarded by traders who watch the hourlong movie in the hope of gleaning possible trading tips from Jones. On the Internet, bids for the video start at $295. According to Michael Glyn, the video's director, Jones requested in the 1990s that the documentary be removed from circulation.

Paul tudor jones trader documentary

Here's a brief introduction on Paul Tudor Jones career. The video also features a clip from the film "Trader".

from All Good Found

Is financial trading an art, science, profession or out-and-out gamble? If you're interested in money and you want to know what it's really like on Wall Street, this is the video you, your family, your colleagues and your friends should own. Filmed before Wall Street's October 1987 crash, TRADER is a riveting one hour documentary of a fascinating man, Paul Tudor Jones II. It delivers a rarely seen view of futures trading and explains the workings of this frantic, highly charged marketplace. It gives viewers an inside look at his estate in Virginia, skiing in Gstaad, his New York apartment. It also examines Jones' prediction that America is nearing the end of a 200-year bull market. If he's right - and he almost always is - this country and the world are about to experience economic changes of unprecedented proportions.

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Comments (63)

Mar 16, 2010

This is an unbelievable find - the video itself is a hot commodity.

From wikipedia:

"Jones uses a global macro strategy when trading in some of his funds. This strategy can be seen in the 1987 PBS film "TRADER: The Documentary". [6] The film shows Mr. Jones as a young man predicting the 1987 crash using methods similar to market forecaster Robert Prechter.

Although the video was shown on public television in November 1987, very few copies exist. Those that do are hoarded by traders who watch the hourlong movie in the hope of gleaning possible trading tips from Jones. On the Internet, bids for the video start at $295. According to Michael Glyn, the video's director, Jones requested in the 1990s that the documentary be removed from circulation.

The video surfaced briefly on YouTube at the end of July 2009, before being taken down due to alleged copyright violation.[1] Jones' firm currently manages $17.7 billion (as of June 1, 2007). Their investment capabilities are broad and diverse, including global macro trading, fundamental equity investing in the U.S. and Europe, emerging markets, venture capital, commodities, event driven strategies and technical trading systems."

Oct 22, 2017

Thanks for that. I updated it with your (much more eloquent) description.

Mar 16, 2010

Jones traded so well during the crash that I believe he and one of his top traders, Mark Fisher, were actually called before a Congressional subcommittee that wanted to investigate their possibly having a role in creating the crash

(of course they did not). From the stories I've heard the $295 that wikipedia sites as the starting bid is wildly conservative.

Mar 16, 2010

Thanks for the link. It's really appreciated. Silver banana.

Mar 16, 2010

watched it and is it really that great?

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Mar 17, 2010
monty09:

watched it and is it really that great?

Yes it was that great! Amazing how much simpler markets were back then...he basically spent all day kicking around S&Ps, US interest rates, and a few currency pairs. Today macro funds have many many more products on the radar screen. Also, his analog builder that compared the 1920's to the 1980's was classic...the thing looked like a printing press and was the size of a compact car...today those analogs can be made on bberg in 2 seconds. His tolerence for risk was also massive...he takes a 6% loss in one day!

And just for pure comedy the outfits that his junior trader wore (red suspenders and giant glasses) were hilarious. Also him skiing in Gstaad was a pretty funny 80s cliche.

Oct 22, 2017

Its amazing to see how they predicted the crash. Also, I thought it was really cool to see one of the greats in action. You read about hedge fund managers and the positions they take, but you never get to watch as they are taking them. Also, look at how candidly and friendly his is with the camera. Its like your in the room with him and you can't tell that he is giving an interview.

Mar 16, 2010

He tried pretty hard to keep this thing away from the public so I'd imagine there's some reason for that

Mar 16, 2010

agree the style in which it was filmed was cool. best part is when you wink at camera hence he was the crude seller.. that was baller

Mar 16, 2010

This was posted before, the video is great because its so real. When hes in his house in the morning trading crude with brokers or german marks. Also you see how he called the 1987 crash basically using like 10 charts and his analyst dude.

Mar 17, 2010

Downloading now. Thanks.

Just a quick thought - how and why is such a hot video avalible for download for free and so easily?

Mar 17, 2010

Saw this when it was on youtube last year. He is the man.

I think what is even funnier is the workout equipment being used in the beginning.

Mar 17, 2010

"I hope they think it's some wild-as-shit Arab who knows the whole trade agreement is gonna fall apart..."

Legendary.

Mar 17, 2010

My download is going slow as shit! Anybody else experiencing really long download times?

Mar 17, 2010

if by slow u mean 100kb/s, yeap. i'm right there with ya.

Mar 17, 2010

some amazing lines throughout. At about 17 minutes in, is he drinking a budweiser at 4/430 am?

Mar 17, 2010

Gotta love the pinky ring.

All joking aside, great topics (ie. Elliot Wave Theory...)--if you haven't seen this before and are all interested in finance, watch away =).

"Salesmen and traders are wild, cunning, aboriginal creatures who advise money managers about deceiving their bosses and finding new strip bars; their favourite phrase is, "Fuck you." IBankers eat fruit. Salesmen and traders eat meat, preferably fried."

Mar 17, 2010

i respect the guy a whole lot and have interacted with him before. but the whole overlaying-20's-chart-on-80's-chart is a bit...you know...dubious

maybe this stuff worked all the time in the 80's when technical analysis tools aren't as sophisticated as it is today...

at the same time, he is sort of the warren buffett of technical analysis.

Mar 17, 2010
untilted:

i respect the guy a whole lot and have interacted with him before. but the whole overlaying-20's-chart-on-80's-chart is a bit...you know...dubious

maybe this stuff worked all the time in the 80's when technical analysis tools aren't as sophisticated as it is today...

at the same time, he is sort of the warren buffett of technical analysis.

I would have to disagree--TA surely wasn't as "sophisticated" (not as many bullshit indicators..), but math is still math and the correlation is explained well through the charting.

I mean, look at the current period. So far we are trading pretty close to the 1929 pattern with the big drop and reflex rally to 60ish%. Everybody's bullish, analysts are raising estimates, recovery is well on the way...eerily similar. There was a great chart somewhere on zerohedge but I can't seem to find it.

"Salesmen and traders are wild, cunning, aboriginal creatures who advise money managers about deceiving their bosses and finding new strip bars; their favourite phrase is, "Fuck you." IBankers eat fruit. Salesmen and traders eat meat, preferably fried."

Mar 17, 2010
untilted:

i respect the guy a whole lot and have interacted with him before. but the whole overlaying-20's-chart-on-80's-chart is a bit...you know...dubious

maybe this stuff worked all the time in the 80's when technical analysis tools aren't as sophisticated as it is today...

at the same time, he is sort of the warren buffett of technical analysis.

These analogs are commonly used today...not as strictly as he was using them like "today is January 3rd, 1929" but analogs are pretty standard tools for macro traders and i believe they can be very helpful...in order to have an opinion about what will happen in the future its very important to understand how prices have reacted in situations that were similar in the past.

Mar 17, 2010
Bondarb:
untilted:

i respect the guy a whole lot and have interacted with him before. but the whole overlaying-20's-chart-on-80's-chart is a bit...you know...dubious

maybe this stuff worked all the time in the 80's when technical analysis tools aren't as sophisticated as it is today...

at the same time, he is sort of the warren buffett of technical analysis.

These analogs are commonly used today...not as strictly as he was using them like "today is January 3rd, 1929" but analogs are pretty standard tools for macro traders and i believe they can be very helpful...in order to have an opinion about what will happen in the future its very important to understand how prices have reacted in situations that were similar in the past.

true true. history does often repeat itself.

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Mar 17, 2010

Amazing stuff. Thanks for the post.

Oct 22, 2017

Hey Guys,

There is so much traffic that the video is much slower than before. If you want to download it and watch it on your computer whenever you want you may need to download the proper codecs which can be found in the DivX codec pack. Note: that actually downloading onto your computer takes 40-60 minutes.

Mar 17, 2010
Mar 17, 2010

Watched it last night and it was so fast it might as well have been streaming. That being said, yeah, I'm pretty sure that was a Budweiser at 4 am.

"I just want to be a monkey of average intelligence who wears a suit. I'll go to business school!"

Mar 18, 2010

Insightful

Thanks for the post.

Mar 17, 2010

Just watched it. That was AWESOME. Anything else similar?

Mar 18, 2010

That was pretty neat. Second LLcoolJ's request for suggestions for similar documentaries/videos.

Mar 18, 2010

Love how he throws on the Bruce Willis shoes ("The man's a stud") and then gets owned to the tune of 6% that day. He takes it well, though.

Mar 18, 2010

this guy's an idiot. elliott wave analysis? really? just goes to show how far luck can take you in life

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Mar 16, 2010
arden:

this guy's an idiot. elliott wave analysis? really? just goes to show how far luck can take you in life

rather be lucky then good

Mar 17, 2010
arden:

this guy's an idiot. elliott wave analysis? really? just goes to show how far luck can take you in life

dude the guy has like a 20% annualized return since the late 80's. That's 22 years of straight luck!

Mar 18, 2010
Mar 17, 2010
arden:

http://stockvaluer.blogspot.com/2006/04/buffetts-c...

but he's been flipping the coin for 25 straight years! If you really believe that someone can outperform markets for 25 years, including making money in all three market crashes in that time, with only luck then i think your delusional. And BTW I think that at least 90% of traders add no value but somebody who has been around this long and consistently performed in both up and down markets deserves respect whether he's using eliot waves, astrology, or anything else.

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Mar 19, 2010

If you know what to look for, this video is extremely, extremely informative. PTJ definitely does not spell it out, but there are subtle things he says which reveal a great deal about how to trade successfully. I highly encourage everyone who aspires to be a trader to watch this, as PTJ is definitely one of the greatest macro traders of our time.

arden:

this guy's an idiot. elliott wave analysis? really? just goes to show how far luck can take you in life

... and you, sir, are the idiot. Just because YOU can't find success in trading (and, probably, the financial services industry in general), doesn't mean its not possible through skill. I know that you consider yourself a "highly qualified" individual, but until you run one of the largest multi-strategy macro funds on the planet, measure your net worth with at least 9 zeros, and have only ONE losing year over the past 2+ decades, please keep it to yourself.

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Oct 22, 2017

He used Elliot Wave analysis to predict the crash. That does not mean he uses it with all his investments. The guy has had 20% returns for 20 years straight. Not to mention the fact that you saw him trade several times (oil, D-marks). How can you call it luck?

Mar 16, 2010

Ok do that many people actually not know who Paul Tudor is? Or his fund?

Mar 18, 2010

I am pretty sure that 95% of the people on this site know who he is; the 5% that don't know are probably trolls.

Mar 18, 2010

Budweiser to get the day started... fucking maniac.

Mar 19, 2010

seems for some folks luck is their skill

Mar 19, 2010

the argument is pointless because we'll never know whether its luck or whether its technique.

personally I believe in trading ESP ("gut feelings"). Soros once said he gets physically ill when disaster is about strike.

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Mar 19, 2010

He is getting old and cranky...too

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Mar 20, 2010

This is a great post. I have watched this video several times over in the past few days.

It would be interesting to hear his reactions on this video some 20 plus years after.

Mar 21, 2010

file not found. I found an alternative link from a Chinese website
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/XH5W4vffBbY/

Mar 21, 2010

raw, compelling and energetic. PTJ reminds me of why i became a trader in the first place. i think im a bit nostalgic right now! sht. someone get me a bloomberg terminal, a turret and a couple hundred milliy. quick!

Mar 22, 2010

obv tried to ban it so investors wouldn't know he was a punter that got lucky
that analyst guy talking about elliott waves was hilarious

Mar 22, 2010

Great find. But the site is in Chinese... anyone know how to download the file instead of just watching it on the web site?

Oct 22, 2017

The original posting I had up was from zshare and they let you download it off your computer. zshare took it down and I had to replace it with the current link. The video is not as rare as I once thought and you should be able to find it on a torrent site or just some proactive google searching. Glad you enjoyed it.

Oct 5, 2012

anyone has a clue where I could find this video ?
I just saw on business insider that the video had "resurfaced" but it's already gone arrrrg.
SB for any usable link.

Mar 25, 2013

If it looks as good as on paper, we're in the kill zone, pal. Lock and load

Aug 21, 2013
CauseImLJ:

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/6381648/

Just downloaded it, im going to watch it in a bit. Thanks for sharing.

Mar 25, 2013
Aug 19, 2013

Any video links? I need to be a traderz

Aug 21, 2013

Ack it's gone! I want this so bad! If anyone finds it again Please post a new link~!!

Feb 3, 2017

Does anyone have a copy of this still? Can't find it anywhere online, would love to watch it. PM me?

Feb 3, 2017

Found it.

http://documentaryvine.com/video/trader-the-docume...
The password to watch it is 'view'.

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Feb 4, 2017

Wow, thank you so much.

Feb 3, 2017

if you don't own this, you're late

Feb 4, 2017

He looks and sounds like Jim cornette

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Oct 20, 2017

"The markets are always changing , and they are always the same."

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