Ran across a kid on LinkedIn who has this on his resume:
Harvard Applied Math + Econ -> PJT RSSG -> Apollo MFPE -> Partner @ Tiger Global Mgmt
What the fuck? He constantly ends up w/ the most elite group/firm/school every time??
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Boring answer but Rishi Sunak
Emmanuel Macron even more I would say
Not really
Funny part is that that guy has people he knows where he is like this dude is actually super successful vs me. One of the co-founders of Perplexity is Harvard Math 2017, founder of LangChain is Harvard 2017, and am sure there are others on the AI / startup side worth 9 / 10 figs on paper.
There r dudes who never went to college that are billionaires forget about pedigree
Princeton -> DE Shaw -> Amazon
jb
Justin beiber - yes.
High School -> HRT -> MIT -> Scale AI -> Meta Superintelligence :)
Pedigree starts before undergrad...
Otherwise a dumb thread.
Yup, no upward mobility in the U.S. and rich families are great at staying rich
I think you forget what the word pedigree means. It’s not just your background, but your genealogy. Yes your school is like a family, but in the most pure sense your family is your pedigree.
The US famously has tons of social mobility lol. Most of the richest families in the US made their fortune in the last 150 years. Compare that to the UK where you have house poor lords of Danberryshire etc. who are negative net worth and still a part of the upper crust.
Get a life
OP, go take a look at Lone Pines page. Out of every ultra prestigious financial firm, they have the absolute pinnacle of the pyramid in terms of talent.
bunch of state school guys, 2 pod guys. bleh
Li Lu - graduated Columbia at age 30, due to problematic life circumstances, and only had a year of IB under his belt before launching his own HF, which, through lots of trial and error, became a massive success, while also becoming close with Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger.
No shame in going off the beaten path at all; while very risky, it works wonders for some.
li lu is awesome but that was decades ago. that same path almost impossible to replicate today
This is a sad truth that’s not just in finance; it was so much easier to start a company and do well back then than it is now.
Sometimes, I wish I was alive during 1980s and 1990s America.
He grew up in China and was a key organizer in the 1989 student protest.
I hate these types of things, but I know someone who went
Harvard/Wharton -> EVR M&A/GS TMT/PJT RSSG -> Silver Lake/KKR/Apollo -> Sequoia/Tiger
Jonny Kim. Hands down
university of san diego- yea right. This guy never would've been able to recruit for apollo or blackstone or PJT RSSG
We all know special tactical operations team at bx > than special operations navy seals
(EDIT - I can't believe I have to say this now, but this is a joke people; i didn't say it was a good joke... but nonetheless this is being sarcastic)
it’s called tac opps dumbass
George H.W. Bush
Andover -> youngest pilot in US Navy -> Yale -> Congressman -> Ambassador to China -> Ambassador to UN -> CIA Director -> VP -> President
I don't remember the most cracked pedigree I've seen on Linkedin, but IRL most cracked pedigree I know personally is MIT -> Goldman SSG --> Davidson Kempner --> Stanford Business School --> own fund
Davidson Kempner is not prestigious enough smh
EDIT: Sarcasm is dead, i guess
Lmk when you get an offer
Mark Carney
Full Ride to Harvard (Hockey) -> Masters& PhD at Oxford University -> MD Investment Banking at Goldman Sachs -> Governor of Bank of Canada -> Governor of Bank of England -> Prime Minister of Canada
del
Yea he's up there
all while being an uncharismatic politician, which makes it even more impressive, or just shows the low bar of becoming a PM in Canada
He didn't get a full ride for hockey. He played one game and Harvard doesn't do athletic scholarships.
I saw someone go: Community College > CUNY > BB IBD > MF PE, I think they are at the Principal or Partner level by now. In the future, imagine if the IB is middle market instead, that may be the one that tops this for me.
Respect. That's honestly more impressive than compounding pedigree. Guy literally from bowls to the top.
Point72 Academ
Real?
College dropout —> 400mm private business
Harvard -> Blackstone PE -> Viking -> Own Fund. Idk how you beat this.
Le rosey - eton - oxford e&m - ms, jp springs - blackstone nyc summer - point 72 academy (all before he graduates)
Fluent in 7 languages and has a 790 gmat
100% nepo but damn
>jp springs
>Fluent in 7 languages
Is this person the character Yasmin from 'Industry'?
No, it’s the son of Campbell from Campbell Lutyens
i speak 7 languages as well but only 2 are relevant, would it be a worth mentioning on a cv?
Rich Falk Wallace is pretty impressive.
Columbia -> JPM Rx -> Silver Point -> Viking -> Citadel PM
all that to generate negative pnl
Wait, did he really generate negative pnl? Is that why he is no longer at citadel?
Citadel PM 😭
have banged is ex gf so can confirm
Rishi sunak or David Cameron or John Major have to be up there surely. Any world leader that somehow ended up in finance wins. Being the leader of a large country is far more prestigious than any finance related pedigree by definition
"Any world leader that somehow ended up in finance wins" - hahahaha
3 very different people but let's dissect
Sunak is like Carney, the most obvious world leader with a very prestigious finance background; Winchester, Oxford PPE, GS, TCI Hedge Fund. Imo the most prestigious thing about Sunak isn't his finance background, but how he quickly rose to prominence from being a backbencher elected in 2015 to becoming PM in 7 years, Chancellor in 4.5. The 2019 election was when he came out as a really polished media performer and eventually replaced Javid.
I'm a big DC fan but he worked in consulting for 2 years then went into politics in the 90s. Cameron was born into wealth, Sunak was middle-class. Major again is a PM i have a lot of respect for and his journey is remarkable - working class, didn't attend university, rose up the ranks to PM and won a surprise election in 1992. One of the few PMs that has a much more favourable record and appearance in hindsight.
Lmao reminds me of this. I choose money > power. Who wants all of that headache
> leader of a large country
all large countries are puppet regime vassals anyway so who cares
Jacob Rees-Mogg.
If you Google "posh conservative party guy uk" he's the first result lol
Columbia University Valedictorian -> Harvard Law School -> Harvard Business School -> Morgan Stanley M&A -> Blackstone PE -> Founder of H.I.G. Capital
Whenever I see someone with too pedigreed a resume, I almost get sad thinking what a waste to have had all that potential and only end up in finance.
finance is a brain drain on society, don’t think that’s a controversial take yea
Not because "finance is a drain", and candidly, in some of these positions, they will make tens if not hundreds of millions over their lifetimes, so I can't blame them and take my statement back a bit.
I just meant they have everything and are clearly brilliant - they should be using that pedigree to make a company, to change the world. You name it. They have nothing to prove.
I think opposite. Could have gone into finance immediately and retired early to philanthropy, good causes instead of wasting 3-4 years on grad degrees
Harvard CS -> Oxford -> Goldman strats -> Hudson River Trading algo trading head
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Me nigga
V easy to dox who this is as there's only one linkedin profile matching this
What are you going to expose them for? Some rando talked about their LinkedIn pedigree on WSO? Shit he’ll get fired after that
know someone who went Stern UG>HBS>BCG>>own H/F>Greatest Trade Ever
JP's acumen has taken a real hit with his latest investment in a mediocre 30-something IG 'influencer' who is costing him his wife and kids (not to mention big $).
Probably me ngl
Many if not all of the tiger shops have countless people from pedigrees like that. I know of one who went to HYP - GS - APO; not particularly bright or capable, just born rich and trained well. If you look especially closely, a majority of the people (junior and partners) at those firms are not people who have achieved a high degree of mobility or taken any risk in their lives - they tend to be H/Y/P grads who went to a top group at a top bank or consulting firm, leveraged that into a top MF or VC offer, and then got to Coatue / Viking / Tiger or whatever.
Dig one level deeper and you will find that 8-9 out of every ten of those characters are people who were born on third base, went to prep school or a Stuyvesant equivelant, had every advantage / all the right advice they needed to get to exactly where they are. It's part of the reason I am starting to hate finance - it perpetuates inequality to the nth degree and is highly biased to people who had a head start. How did Chase Coleman get his break? His daddy called up Julian Robertson who then hires him and hands him $25mm (more like $50 today adjusted for inflation) after 2-3 years of working for him.
I feel a lot of the people who are/were true legends on Wall St did not have anything close to a career that was a straight line. Lot of setbacks, unorthodox backgrounds / experiences, etc. Look up a guy named Bruce Kovner - very well known in the macro trading space and he was hired at one of the best trading shops after a stint as a cab driver...guy is brilliant though and reflects the best of what a meritocracy should be.
agree generally except stuy is mostly lower income scrappy kids who crammed test to get in. probably the least privileged/most meritocratic of the group and not comparable to prep school at all. if anything the opposite
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.php?year=2018&instid=800000046741
stuy is 46% "economically disadvantaged"
Agreed but would you not say that people who get there have had very involved / helicopter parents or family who are pushing them to get there?
the industry needs more Bruce Kovner type stories.
the American Dream!
Damola ademolakun
Three letters for you bud, first one is a D
X
Idg it
CEO of PF Chang at 31 is insane.
No glaze my role model
George pocheptsov
Child prodigy artist (painted before he could speak) selling to the likes of Colin Powell, Michael Jordan, Celine Dion
—> Bill & Melinda Gates early school valedictorian —> Harvard college —> Apollo / GS Investments partners internships —> Blackstone —> Apollo FIG PE. Speaks 4 languages
All of that to end up a fucking principal at APO...
Well it’s not like he’s super old and his career is in its twilight. It’s still a great trajectory and for all we know he could quit his job tomorrow morning and start a business and end up a billionaire or something, you never know.
Mind me, APO FIG = Apo within Apo
Phillips academy —> Williams —> Rothschild IB —> Tailwind Capital —> CEO & Founder of Financial Blog / Forum
See a guy who went Columbia>Goldman>Blackstone PE>founder of an AI company
Adebayo Ogunlesi: Oxford PPE (1st Class) --> JD/ MBA from Harvard --> Law Clerk to SCOTUS Judge Thurgood Marshall --> Cravath Associate --> Credit Suisse First Boston (Vice Chairman, Chief Client Officer, Global Head of IB) --> Founded Global Infrastructure Partners and sold to BlackRock.
Also is mentioned in a Burna Boy song which is good for the street cred back in Lagos.
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