2018 Summer Analyst IB Recruiting Timeline Megathread Page
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EARLY RECRUITMENT PROCESS / APPLICATIONS / INTERVIEWS / SUPERDAYS
I want to establish a single place where all students can come come to share knowledge, questions, information, and concerns regarding investment banking summer analyst recruiting for summer 2018. US focused. Good luck to everyone.
Goldman Sachs
Morgan Stanley
J.P. Morgan
Bank of America ML
Citigroup
Barclays
Credit Suisse
Deutsche Bank
UBS
Wells Fargo Applications open:
Lazard
Lazard Middle Market
Jefferies
Centerview
Moelis
Greenhill
Perella Weinberg
Houlihan Lokey
PJT
Evercore
HSBC
Nomura
Sun Trust Robinson Humphrey
RBC
Raymond James
Piper Jaffray
Baird
Oppenheimer
Cowen
BMO Capital Markets
Tudor, Pickering, & Holt
Simmons & Co.
Qatalyst Partners.
Guggenheim
William Blair
RBS
Stifel Nicolaus
Societe Generale
Daiwa Capital Markets
Stephens, Inc.
Imperial Capital
Peter J. Solomon Company
Brown Brothers Harriman
Mizuho Securities
Does anyone know of any summer recruiting events taking place in NY that may still be open to applicants?
Are you UK based?
No I'm not.
LoL the struggles of finding similar organised lists for UK applicants... check TSR for summer applications for similar forum discussions
In the mean time here is the 2017 Ranking from GO-BUYSIDE employee.
The Dream Team : 1: PJT, GS, Evercore, MS, Lazard, Moelis
Warriors: 2: JPM, Centerview, Greenhill, Perella Weinberg Partners 2.5: CS, BAML ________________________Mega fund cut line*________________
3: Barclays 3.5: DB, Citi, Houlihan, Jefferies 4: UBS, Roths of the world like Liontree 5: Wells Fargo, RBC,BMO ________________________Don't even think about PE line_______
6: HSBC, Baird, KBW,Other no name boutiques, Regional bank IB like Key bank, Foreign banks with no deal flow like Mizuho/Nomura/SocGen
J.P. Morgan Applications open July 15th with a deadline of September 15th. BAML also September 15th deadline. Goldman apps open July 15th with November 10th deadline. Morgan Stanley opens first week of July. It seems all the BB's are on the same schedule
I was told the same deadlines for Goldman Sachs at their undergraduate camp.
JPM open June 15 not July 15
Can someone confirm if this is true?
I know this isn't 100% on topic, but I was actually emailed the app by an analyst at JP for their AM summer positions yesterday (6/20). Does the IB application pool really open up later than other positions? I was under the assumption IB is always the most accelerated.
Anybody know if JPM has started interviewing?
BAML- Accelerated IB done in august. Regular IB done in september. GS- Probably done in November Lazard- Same as BAML LAZ MM- A little later than LAZ. Citi- Starts in august. EID have superday in July.
Rookie Question. What is the difference between Lazard and LAZ MM?
Lazard is the EB we all know of. Big deals and good deal flow.
Lazard MM is a middle market bank that is simply owned by Lazard.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-lazard-acquisition-idUKN10352478200707…
What does EID mean?
Early identification
Where are you getting this information about BAML and Lazard? There is nothing on their websites or on my school's finance/career center websites.
LonstedBrowry I went to both of those firms this semester.
US or London ?
US. Obviously.
Another rookie question - if you aren't selected for accelerated interviews, are you still considered for regular IB?
+sb for your username
I honestly have no clue but I would think (no offense) that someone isn't even considered for accelerated if they don't have a super strong connection or went to firm events. Still can get regular though. IMO Accelerated is easier and harder at the same time. More openings but also harder to get because you need to hound banks or go to their events.
Most banks don't have specific sophomore IB analyst positions but I know several people who got these positions, is this done by just applying through the junior pool and getting picked over juniors? As a sophomore should you just apply to sophomore and juniors programs and see what happens? I know some individuals get these spots through diversity programs or connections but I am referring to those that went through ordinary means.
Also want to know the answer to this question. I would like to know what is possible rising into a junior summer 2018.
It's either diversity programs or some special sophomore early identification program (Jefferies in Houston has 3 sophomores for 3 weeks). Sophomores aren't getting hired for the normal SA program.
Some banks will have sophomore-specific programs (very limited number of acceptances) - roles will effectively be the same as junior summer analysts except your reward is another summer internship next year rather than a full time role. There's also sophomores who could be graduating early (3 years) so they count for the junior summer analyst pool since it's based on graduation date.
Wow I actually know one of them. They also did their 2018 recruiting this last school year for sophomores at the time
Does anyone know if it is too late for the Jefferies IBD app? Or have a link? I was unsuccessful in finding on and their current job board didn't have any internships listed for IBD
Goldman just has a summer analyst position that sophomores and juniors apply to. BAML has a sophomore specific program. MS, DB, and CS have diversity sophomore positions.
MS has a general sophomore IB that I see. What is the diversity program?
What is the name of the BAML sophomore program?
Are there any of these programs that are open to Juniors (those who will be Juniors after this summer)?
Basically what they said above...let's try not to ask repetitive questions
Pretty sure they are all for rising juniors...you apply at the end of the summer/early fall 2017 for a position in summer 2018.
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Bump
No it's not. It has not even started.
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I have already had my superday as well. If anyone is curious about how it went (hint: not so well), feel free to check my post. GS still has plenty of spots open for the standard application so don't fret one bit. Their applications have only started for diversity / non-target recruits.
It has started but it isn't done - as said above, accelerated has been going on and still is, regular timeline will begin later in the summer
Goldman has given early interviews to rising juniors for their Summer 2018 Analyst program but I assume they'll still have openings come August/September.
Y'all gave this person shits... but funny enough, he/she's right. So silver banana for you bro.
And same thing applies for MS and JPM. NY is pretty much gonna be done by the end of the summer.
If it were done already, why exactly would they bother with the expensive process of re-opening applications on July 15th, flying in people for more superdays after the summer, taking up bankers' time to interview people when their class is already full, etc...?
Well, I'd love to give out names of people, but that wouldn't be very smart, would it? But most insiders I have spoken to have said recruiting this year is particularly early and that it is almost done. If you don't believe it, just check banks' events portals... (virtually) no recruiting events left.
I'm not saying people won't get hired after the summer, but they are already having superdays and the main bulk of interns is gonna have an offer soon or they already have one. So yes, they will "open" applications to get in late talent, but spots will be very limited.
i can confirm that goldman has already given offers to some students for 2018 but i dont know if they are completely done
When do I talk to banks about internships? (Originally Posted: 08/13/2017)
I am looking to do an IB internship Junior summer before Senior year and I am curious as to when the time to apply is for that Summer. Thank you.
Should I even bother applying as an incoming freshman in college? I will be finished with my freshman year by the time the internship begins.
You won't have a college GPA by the time the applications close in September/October, how would you even apply.
lol true.
You're halfway if not in ending side of summer applications. Might wanna start applying asap.
Even if I am going into my sophomore year right now?
The time to start is now. Start networking now regardless and begin to apply now if you go to a non-target. If you have OCR you can wait to apply through that if you want.
How difficult is it to get one of these internships as a European student (specifically from Belgium)? Do these banks usually have some kind of access to accommodation for the interns?
my suggestion go for internship in France.
France ?? I am French and recruitment for IB in France is stupid... There is specific program called "Grande Ecole" and banks ONLY recruit students enrolled in this program (unless you have a HUGE network or already an experience in BB or PE...)
London is your best bet, NYC is impossible due to work permits etc. Banks don't provide you accommodation but during summer time it's not that difficult to find some place to stay at (expensive though!). Try to look up some alumni from your school, if you study at any decent university then someone probably from your alma mater works in London banking.
Anyone know when BAML's sophomore internship app opens for 2018 spots?
Fantastic! Subscribe this post!
I had offers for IBD sophomore programs at GS, BAML, DB, and Citi, so those all exist. There are also sophs at Barclays, JPM, and MS. Soph applicants should apply by at least mid September, but the recruiting process for sophs mainly starts mid october/early november (at least it did for me). Sophomore superdays start end of november and continue into mid december. Offers by mid december. Also, there was a GS accelerated interview process that just happened, but don't think they filled all the spots. Only a few students from each school. Heard it wasn't too heavy on the technicals (honestly jealous given that the soph interviews even had technicals).
How do you become a part of this GS accelerated interview process?
Rising sophomore at a target here - are the sophomore BB programs you're talking about (Barclays, JPM, MS) open to non diversity? If so when did you start networking with the banks
These are only Diversity programs (women, black, hispanic,lgbt). I know of non diversity kids who have gotten in because their dads where MD's though..
How are spots already being filled if applications have not even opened yet? Are people just getting offered interviews through networking? Its hard to believe that banks would only operate in this way and not give the opportunity for students to apply themselves.
I've heard of kids at my school being given superday offers without them even applying.
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alumni came to campus and picked up resumes. Then you move straight to superday if selected. This already happened in the last two weeks
Hey guys, is it possible to apply for summer internships as a senior (graduating May 2018) who plans to do a 1 year MSF after graduation? How should I put that on my resume since I won't be accepted to any master yet this summer? I know it is common in the UK but not sure about the US. thanks
If you do a one-year Master's you can apply to the summer BA position at McKinsey and not the full-time position, as per the website. I assume it's the same most places? I don't know.
Credit Suisse applications are open now. Anyone apply yet or know what their timeline is?
Rolling, 8/1, 9/1 and one later. Apparently they HIGHLY recommend you apply by the 8/1 deadline though
Who told you that? No one at my (target) school has heard anything from CS
Any idea of when the first screenings/first-rounds will be?
Can confirm. Contact in HR said they will process by 8/1, 9/1, and 10/1.
Has anyone heard anything yet? My application is still going through a duplicate check.
Credit Suisse superday in early june
Would that be just for targets?
For IB though? What is this for?
Anyone know about timelines for SF/bay area?
Also interested! I heard they are beginning mid august and going on until fall but its not from a reputable source.
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If you can get that up to a 3.2, which is the cutoff for many BBs, you have a decent shot through diversity programs. There are other ways to get into better firms, with a sub 3.0 GPA. Look into diversity programs that can help you become trained for ibd jobs and eventually lateral your way to where you want to be. SEO Careers helps you prep so you're fully prepared, but recruiting will be an uphill battle.
does anyone know details about accelerated interview processes? just got an email from WFS about an accelerated process for the 2018 SA program, and I'm curious to know a little bit more about it
Did you get an informational email or an actual invitation?
it was just an email saying to consider Wells Fargo, and to sign up on a surveymonkey if we wanted to be considered for an accelerated interview process
The WF application isn't open, I just checked.
WF IBD/S&T opens August 25 (I assume any expedited apps are handled differently)
WF IBD apps are (weirdly) only open for ONE DAY (8/25)
So...how screwed am I if I haven't started networking yet? I didn't go to any of the on campus recruiting events in the spring.
Yeah, bump.
So I'm an Asian male with a 3.42 GPA from semi-target and going to be a sophomore. Pledging fucked up my GPA, and I got a C in my first accounting course. Got a 3.9 first semester so I know I'm capable of bringing it back up pretty easily ( probably around 3.65 which I could probably round up to 3.7 ) but it won't improve until December. Is it even worth applying to these programs? Thinking about focusing on Corporate F500 internships for now and then trying again Junior year.
Stfu
If the frat you pledged for has some strong connections to leverage, then give it a shot. Really long odds, though, not really the profile they're looking for.
You know how they always say "there are no stupid questions?"
Well. Congrats. This is it.
I'm an applied math/econ double major, are some of these programs more quantitative than others?
Become a Strat at a BB. Also look at risk.
does it matter when you submit an application? i.e. if Rothschild is open, is it better to submit an application immediately or to wait, or does it not make a difference?
I think the earlier the better. Spots are limited and get filled up of course as time passes by. Focus on applying to everything early and network hardcore.
Is this just for IBD or also for positions such as S&T?
Most BBs consider their S&T divisions to be part of their investment banking division - GCIB for BAML, CIB for JPM, etc. So S&T recruiting will happen at the same time as the IB positions in ECM, M&A, etc.
Is anyone aware of possible superday dates if one applies to the first deadlines? I heard last year they have been in mid-August?
most resumes drops will be mid august and 1st rounds and supderdays in september. GS and a lot of EBs have accelerated process which open july 15.
Do you guys have any idea about 2018 Summer Associate Recruiting?
Does anyone know if, when networking, we should apply online before/after asking for our resumes to be pushed through? I have a few people at BB's I've done informational interviews with and I'm trying to figure out how soon I should start asking for favors. If anyone can offer any advice or insight I would appreciate it.
(transferring to semi-target where BB's recruit from mainly b school but take other kids too for SA)
most have told me exactly when for each bank, also most of the time i haven’t had to ask for favors, the topic come up organically. I think its slightly better this way because I know they want to help if they brought it up. Either way i would feel it out. If you feel a solid connection and an opportunity ask them when is best/what is the best way to secure an interview. Also I had one call where the vibe was weird so I asked to speak to someone in another group that i was also interested in, the other guy was great and I know he will help me in august/sept. In other words asking for the favor of just speaking to someone else within the bank might hold more value than asking for a resume push. idk, just my two cents. certainly not an expert.
If I have a really solid resume (work, gpa, and was on an olympic/national team) but my contacts at (GS,JPM,MS,WF,LAZ) told me to wait just a hair longer to being networking with their contacts, should I still apply online like rn? Also waiting to hear back for O4U diversity.
Gen Pop apps aren't open yet so you can just apply right now (unless LAZ and WF are open idk). If your in the accelerated recruiting process then thats different. You have to wait until end of June early July for the gen apps to open.
Thanks! The guys at the banks are really keen on my timing of everything because it will be possible but hard coming from non target.
Did you hear back for O4U?
Which firms have had accelerated recruitment other than GS so far this year?
MS
WF
Just wondering - how do you get accepted into accelerated recruitment? I'm a minority (Indian) but non-diversity so I didn't go to the diversity days. I got some emails from MS WFS JPM about their accelerated recruitment; I haven't networked heavily yet so is it best to apply regular timeline? Thanks
This might seem like a stupid question, but if you have experience in a specific industry, is there a way you can get recruited for a specific desk/sector, even if the application title is just generic ("Investment Banking Summer Analyst 2018")? If so, how do you indicate that?
Depending on how target your school is, most of the BBs have early superdays. Goldman has three superdays - one happened in late may (invitation only, no application), one will happen in July (open to select target schools), one in the fall for regular applicants. JPM has a July superday and then a september superday, BAML the same, Citi the same. MS not sure but think they follow roughly the same schedule
For those with July superdays, is that only open to select target schools too? Or for people who apply in June once it opens?
How do you get invited to the fall superdays?
I think the july super days are by invite only for select target schools. Any one not invited will have to wait to apply for the general super day in the fall or august.
I get that they are invite-only, but how do they get the contacts to reach out to people at targets? I go to a target but have no idea how to get on the accelerated super day process.
You have to network with people from your school who summered at GS, guys that just graduated. Or, you have to know people at these banks that are part of your school's recruiting team. With such accelerated recruiting, the process isn't as simple as just waiting for a post on your career center website.
i'm going into freshman yr but damn SA recruiting starts so early!! Summer of Sophomore year seems to be the time...
for you it might be as soph yr ends LOL
I heard MS and GS have decided to start offering their 2030 insight programs to kindergartens.
you're too funny!
This is spot on. Summer camp where 7 yr olds start training for IB.
https://www.wsj. com/articles/most-camps-have-smores-but-this-one-has-lessons-on-finance-and-trade-1499623828
I'm not sure what the timeline is for IB, but MS is having an accelerated superday for S&T in 2-3 weeks. I would imagine that there is something similar for IB. Can anyone confirm?
Would it be an obnoxious move to message an alumnus from my school who is a full-time IB Analyst at Goldman Sachs on LinkedIn? We met at a school recruiting event in early October 2016 and likely has no idea who I am.
But it's likely worth a shot to ask if I could be considered for the accelerated process, no?
Never hurts man. The more you overthink it the more likely it is that you don't follow through.
Why not just email him? If you know his first and last name, you can just shoot him an email at his GS address
Yeah, just look up GS email format and write something along the lines of, "xxx, we met at our university's recruiting event and I'd love to catch up and hear more about your experiences."
Strangely I got an email bounce back error. it's still @GS.com ?
Not gonna lie you're clueless about how these things work, you don't ask to be included into the accelerated process. These things are invite only, you get invited if you've networked with the firm and are on their radar (either networking/target school strong candidate). I'd suggest you reach out to multiple alumni from your school, you're already kind of late for accelerated tbh, and go from there
Not necessarily. I attended a recruiting event/insight day and then the organizers followed up in the summer in early June asking if you would like to participate in the accelerated process. You had to email back with your revised resume and top division picks. It was Morgan Stanley
Anyone have any insight on MMs? I would presume that they might be a little later than the BBs?
Just received word from HR that the application process for Moelis will open on July 5th. May the odds be ever in your favor.
Moelis's application has been open for more than two weeks. I applied last week but still haven't heard anything.
Maybe HR meant they will start reviewing applications on July 5th?
I followed up regarding the interview timeline, will let you know if I get a response
Cause I looked and it only said Class of 2019. I wonder if they start looking on July 5th or application hasn't opened yet.
Anyone hear back?
Likely an extremely stupid question, but is a cover letter usually recommended for all positions? Having always gone through career services/uni portal, usually only submitted resume.
Always submit a cover letter. People need something to put their coffees on to not get their desks dirty...
But, really, always submit one. Analysts rarely get to read them, but HR actually cares about them.
Has anyone heard back from Credit Suisse yet? I applied to their 2018 Summer S&T program.
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