What has been your total compensation progression in your career?
Does finance have a similar TC progression (80k to 575k). To me, this seems very fast compared to IB.
Definitely faster than CorpFin roles, as I've googled.Assuming one has similar career trajectory as described in the picture.
Edit: Sorry, picture didn’t upload. Reloaded:
I don’t see a picture - what is the role / industry you are referring to in the post?
I’m in corporate finance and went from low 50’s to low 70’s to low 6 figures (6 figure base, also am getting bonus). This was 3 different jobs in 3 years.
If I can snag equity within the next 3 years and the company IPO’s then I could come out pretty well. Promotional track is fast so hoping I can get annual promotes.
I have not worked in banking, but a career could be 2 years as an analyst ($140k, $160k), 3 associate ($275k, $325k, $400k), then 3 years VP ($450k, $500k, $550k). The numbers can vary depending on where you are at - I know my friends at banks last year got paid more than usual, and you can see this on WSO as well.
Sheesh, how do you get $550k in corp fin by your mid-30s? Feels really high
Also what do you do in corp fin? I ask this genuinely as a person that has no idea, is it mostly cash flow / NPV stuff?
If you read it properly they’re talking about IB comp progression.
150k
175k
185k
NOT HAPPY
Here it is:
https://www.teamblind.com/post/This-guy-went-from-80k-to-575k-within-6-years-cUyDpZF6
I believe this is a highly abnormal trajectory.
I started in PE post GFC and now work as a PM at a HF. Comp trajectory:
Y1: 150k
Y2: 200k
Y3: 280k
Y4: 300k
Y5: 350k
Y6: 420k
Y7: 550k
Y8: 1.65M
Y9: 1.07M
Y10: 2.67M
Y11: 4M
Y12: 3.6M
Cap
Why do you think it’s a lie?
Sorry, what is GFC?
Great Financial Crisis
aka 2008
yea right
While it seems unlikely (when compared to the average path) it is in line with a good/steep trajectory in the PE/HF world (the latter part of the comp). I have seen (and experienced) large increases similar to above in the HF space. If you can get to some of the senior levels (or if you can be directly tied to PnL) there is serious competition and comp pressures (and if you are tied to PnL you can have very big years). My comp was very slow moving early on (different industry to start, then a junior person at a fund) and when I started really outperforming my peers it jumped very quickly, so my years 5-10 in my career were completely different (rate of change) than years 1-5, where it is usually the opposite (fast percent increases early on and then flatten out)
Again, if you look at this relative to what average is, then it looks out of line. No idea whether this person is full of it, but you are going to get selection bias on these threads.
My dude if this is real, you’re crushing the game
Amazing.
Size of firms? Comp sounds like you have worked at large firms. If true, props for lasting that long. The few people I know who were at UMM/MF, I can only think of one person who lasted beyond 10+ years. Most leave these type of firms due to burnout or they are counseled out/limited room at the top due to office politics etc.
I worked at a MF PE. But the comp explosion happened after transition to a HF.
What year did you switch from PE to HF
This is unreal, awesome stuff. What city do you live in? What type of HF?
Whoa, I'm at year 7 and have generally followed the same trajectory as you, maybe a little higher in the Y4-5 area. How did you make that ginormous jump in Y8? That's a serious lifestyle change at that point. As background I did 2 years as an analyst at a BB and am now doing PE at 16Bn AUM fund.
Is this comp. trajectory accounting for performance incentives?
Fuck you deep in your pass-index underperforming asshole.
Y1 post undergrad $68k
Y2 $75k
Y3-4 $90k
Y5-6 MBA
Y7 $125k
Y8 $275k
Y9 $315k
Y10 $475k
Y11 $525k
was year 7 a stub year for you? Assuming a start in August?
Yes
Thanks! Do you feel comfortable discussing any details on pre & post MBA industry/roles and school?
Were you Corp Fin pre-MBA, IB post mba?
Dude where are u working to get paid 200k in corp dev
Thanks for sharing - it would be helpful context to know roughly what sized firm you're getting these numbers at
Not joking:
Grats fam
Can you give a breakdown of your job / industry / education over that time period?
Went from an analyst at an independent sponsor to equity partner once we raised a fund. Got paid pretty low for years but stuck it out.
Wow what happened between 7 and 8?
He became an Analyst 1 in PE - Other
I'm equally curious what years 1 and 2 are and I am about years 7 and 8. That's a massive jump in comp over a decade
Y1: $165K
Y2: $200K
Y3: $280K
Y4: $360K
Y5: $450K
Did you do banking to PE
Yup
Y1: $57k
Y2: $65k
Y3: $72k
Y4-5: MBA, switch to RE development
Y6: $160k
Y7: $180k
Y8: $210k
If helpful for another data point. All years in IB straight out of undergrad.
A1: $165k: $85k base + $70k bonus + $10k signing bonus
A2: $190k: $90k base + $100k bonus
A2.5: $105k: $47.5k + $57.5k (6 months)
Assoc1: $290k: 150k + $140k
Assoc2: $437.5k: $187.5k (base increase mid-year) + $250k
Assoc3: ~$500k: $225k + tbd
Congrats on the career progression. I'm curious if you could share how the hours have changed over the years and if you were ever interested in pursuing buy-side roles
Hours have gotten slightly better but control over my hours and being able to plan my days out have become significantly better
Decided to stay in banking because I enjoyed my team, overall liked how the first couple years had gone and did not view finance as something I wanted to do forever. So figured I’d make as much as possible over the next ~5 years then leave, and banking is what would let me do that. I did talk to a number of analysts that I had started with (i.e. 2nd and 3rd years when I was a 1st year) who went to the buy-side, and I felt banking was a better pathway for my current interests and goals
Figured I'd throw mine in as well:
A1: ~$165k: $85k base (moved to $90K in January which explains the odd bonus amount) + $57k bonus + $15k signing bonus
A2: $232k: $100k base + $92k bonus + $20k one-time COVID retention bonus + $20k Associate promote incentive bonus
Assoc1: $325k: $150k base (moved to $175K in January) + $160K bonus
He became lead engineer at one of the best firms after 6 years. It is definitely not typical for tech. Also worth noting that Y1 was in Utah while the rest of his roles were in Cali so I would not use $80k as the starting figure.
Not in the US but will convert using approximate FX rate at the time (values below in USD). Some information is purposely omitted to protect my identity.
Y1: $60k
Y2: $120k
Y3: $120K
Y4 (MF PE): $280K
Y5 (MF PE): $320k
Y6 (SWF): $390K
Y7: $430K
Y8: $515K
Y9: $440K
Y10: $615K
Y11: $900k (edited)
Where? UK? HK? SG?
Americas, non US
Could you talk abit more about why you decided to transition to a SWF post MF PE? And how have you found the investing experience so far vs MF PE?
Sure. I decided to move out of MF PE as I had no interest in pursuing an MBA in the US or Europe, which was a requirement to progress my career to the VP level at the PE fund. Most others MF PEs with offices in my country asked for that but the SWF I work for did not have that requirement. I also considered some MM and LMM PE funds but the offers could not compare to the SWF in terms of deal flow, capital to invest, brand name and compensation. I was motivated to join as part of a new division growing rapidly in my region and globally inside the fund. AuM in the division and in my regional team grew by 3x and 5x respectively since I joined, while maintaining very healthy IRRs.
The direct investing process now is very similar to what I did before at the MF, although I am in a very different sector. Nevetheless, the internal approval process is quite different and the organization itself moves more slowly. I have been enjoying it though, people are much more friendly, hours are super reasonable unless when in a live deal, but even then rarely work more than 70h/weeks and can't complain on compensation. No carry though, which stinks, but you can't have everything in life.
Year 1: 60,000
Year 2: 62,750
Year 3: 63,037 (pissed off, started job hunting)
Year 4: 100,000 + bonus (new job in boutique IB)
Should have gone to IB at the start. I was scared of the lack of work life balance so I decided to choose working at a Big 4. Behold, I still had to work long hours and I wasted 3 years of comp opportunity cost that could have saved me up a house deposit.
Kudos to you for taking the leap
Y1 (post undergrad): 70k
Y2: 77k
Y3: 110k
Y4: 150k
Y5: 175k
Y6: 250k
Y1- 5 dollars/hour
Y2- 15 dollars/hour
Y3- 15 dollars/hour
Solid
Good to see the come up Timmy.
300% comp increase in 3 years damn.
edit: 200%
You mean 200%. Plz fix.
Went from enlisted military getting around 50k, to business school, to back office getting a hair over 100k all in for a job I hated and had zero long term growth potential in, lateraled to CB late last year and expecting full year all in comp to be in the 175-200k range, all in about 5 years.
Congrats man.
Career IB out of undergrad
AN1: 70 + 50 = 120k (+10 signing)
AN2: 80 + 65 = 145k
AN3: 90 + 90 = 180k
AS0: 50 + 50 = 100k for 6 months (+40 retention)
AS1: 140 + 185 = 325k
AS2: 150 + 150 = 300k
VP1: 170 + 205 = 375k
VP2: 175 + 300 = 475k
VP3: 200 + 325 = 525k
D1: 225 + 725k = 950k
D2: 275 + 1,225k = 1.5m
MD1: 350 salary
Congrats on making MD. Guessing boutique or independent based on base salaries?
that kinda sounds like MM pre pay bump levels
How did you skip a year as associate and director?
Thought it was 3.5 plus 3 plus 3 for AS, VP, D but you did 2.5 plus 3 plus 2
Looks like he was at a MM/boutique. Smaller firms have less structured promotion timelines.
if you believe in yourself and willing to put in work, you can get senior pretty quickly at a small shop