icm9823

Social media is trash and serves no societal benefit unless heavily regulated and reined in. Our brightest minds are getting addicted to these dastardly short term dopamine feeding cycles that eat away at their abilities to think critically and deliberate about themselves and their choices and form arguments bigger than the 20 word aLlY InStAgRaM posts that have become so prevalent on these Orwellian platforms

This.

 

icm9823

Social media is trash and serves no societal benefit unless heavily regulated and reined in. Our brightest minds are getting addicted to these dastardly short term dopamine feeding cycles that eat away at their abilities to think critically and deliberate about themselves and their choices and form arguments bigger than the 20 word aLlY InStAgRaM posts that have become so prevalent on these Orwellian platforms

This.  It is insane the amount of political-science majors at my T25 university whose only way of discussion and critical thinking is spitting out words they see on these ally, SJW posts.  during the primary debates, my old roommate read twitter the whole time instead of actually watching the debates.  Rather than thinking about the candidates himself, he relied on random people's twitter reactions to determine who to vote for.  

 
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You don’t need to be smart to be an investment banker. It’s a monkey job without critical thinking.

 
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Hot take: there are now two realities in America thanks to our media. The mainstream media, on both sides of the political aisle, has complete lost all credibility and reporting integrity. I saw a colleague make an Instagram post of a side-by-side picture of peaceful BLM protestors with their hands up next to a picture of alt-Right Trumpsters breaking into the Capitol. The caption: "how can anyone with a brain say BLM protests were violent?" Someone replied with a side-by-side picture of BLM protestors destroying/looting Walnut Street in Philadelphia next to Trump Protestors chanting in the street. Those two people live in two completely different realities. Neither is right, neither is wrong. They are being fed sensationalized news that fit their perceived narrative. I hate Trump, but knowing i am a victim to my own echo chamber thanks to the media, I decided to read through his speech prior to the Capitol riots. I was left confused: where did he incite riots? Nowhere in Trump's hour long speed did he "incite" violence. Every single news article saying otherwise has cherrypicked tidbits and ordered them differently. The capitol riots last week were a result of a bunch of looney right-wind extremists doing what they do best: being fucking stupid. We had prominent activists and representatives "inciting" violence last June during the George Floyd protests and nobody condemned them. The name of the game is clicks, views, and advertising revenue. Our media truly has been corrupted, and has created two different realities.

If you disagree with me, please answer me this: why didn't Twitter permanently suspend Slate during the george floyd riots? https://twitter.com/Slate/status/1268415955937513473?s=20

 

Agreed. Social media makes the fringe look like the norm and further drives polarization.

My hot take is that it’s all intentional. This social media divide, identity politics, racism, hyper-partisan red vs blue politics, etc. I just don’t know if it’s 1) driven by foreign actors (China? Russia? Both? Iran?) to destabilize and harm America in lieu of actual war or 2) driven by the political class, and their donors, to keep the working/lower/middle classes fighting so that no real economic reforms can be achieved.

Or both?

 

"Both sides bad!!" centrists like you live in a third reality I guess, where people of color fighting for racial equality is the same as white supremacists looking to overturn a free and fair election. 

I can freely admit that both protests were violent. There was a not insignificant amount of property damage caused by the BLM protests. But, 96.3% of those protests did not cause any property damage at all and 97.7% of protests did not result in injuries to any protestor, bystander, or law enforcement. You're correct about one thing: mainstream media (like fox news) zeroed in on the most violent aspects of those protests, maybe because they're racist (fox news) maybe because they need controversy to get attention. 

Don't you think it's sad that the message of racial justice was drowned out by MSM's inappropriate focus on the violent actions of a few individuals? Is it that easy for you to dismiss these protests as violent and overlook the extrajudicial killings against, not just George Floyd, but Breonna Taylor, Sandra Bland, Tamir Rice, and the literally dozens of other innocent black people?

Let's contrast this with the capitol riot. Trump may not have literally said "come riot at the capitol" but he certainly has been repeating baseless conspiracy theories about the election with no evidence. The rioters came to the capitol to overturn the election and the FBI has evidence that they planned to murder high profile democrats like Pelosi and coerce Pence into illegally throwing out the certified electoral votes. These aren't the actions of a few lone wolf protestors. There were thousands of protestors, not to mention the nearly 45% of republicans who said their actions were justified - that's 33 million people.

If you honestly cannot tell the difference between the two sides, you're either too lazy to put in the effort or you don't have the capacity for critical thought at all. Must be nice to just disassociate from the most important issues of our time - I'd love to have some of that privilege.

 

throwingawaying123

"Both sides bad!!" centrists like you live in a third reality I guess, where people of color fighting for racial equality is the same as white supremacists looking to overturn a free and fair election. 

Oh please!

I can freely admit that both protests were violent. There was a not insignificant amount of property damage caused by the BLM protests. But, 96.3% of those protests did not cause any property damage at all and 97.7% of protests did not result in injuries to any protestor, bystander, or law enforcement. You're correct about one thing: mainstream media (like fox news) zeroed in on the most violent aspects of those protests, maybe because they're racist (fox news) maybe because they need controversy to get attention. 

Way to pick a non-partisan source! A human rights professor at Radcliffe who uses they/them in their Wikipedia profile. GTFO

Given that ~20 million people protested, if a large number of protests HAD been violent, America would be in the midst of a civil war as I type this.

Don't you think it's sad that the message of racial justice was drowned out by MSM's inappropriate focus on the violent actions of a few individuals? Is it that easy for you to dismiss these protests as violent and overlook the extrajudicial killings against, not just George Floyd, but Breonna Taylor, Sandra Bland, Tamir Rice, and the literally dozens of other innocent black people?

Is it that easy for you to dismiss the nonviolent actions and overlook the good nature of countless police officers and focus simply on the small number of bad apples?

Let's contrast this with the capitol riot. Trump may not have literally said "come riot at the capitol" but he certainly has been repeating baseless conspiracy theories about the election with no evidence.

Yeah, because the left never invented a ridiculous Russian conspiracy theory to explain Trump's election in the first place. 

Oh, wait...

The rioters came to the capitol to overturn the election and the FBI has evidence that they planned to murder high profile democrats like Pelosi and coerce Pence into illegally throwing out the certified electoral votes. These aren't the actions of a few lone wolf protestors. There were thousands of protestors, not to mention the nearly 45% of republicans who said their actions were justified - that's 33 million people.

Yes thousands of right wing loonies, roughly comparable to the number of violent and destructive BLM protestors.

If you honestly cannot tell the difference between the two sides, you're either too lazy to put in the effort or you don't have the capacity for critical thought at all. Must be nice to just disassociate from the most important issues of our time - I'd love to have some of that privilege.

Lol.

 

Only thing your percentages prove is a poor understanding of math.

Probably, 99.9% of the time, Trump rallies have been peaceful. Well, that 0.1% of the time, they ransacked the Capitol.  It does not make it any less bad just because the other 99.9% of protests were peaceful.

EDIT: Note also that probably 99.99% of traffic stops involving a black man do not end up with someone being killed by a police officer. The whole point of the BLM movement is that even 0.01% is not ok.

 

The violence caused by BLM/ANTIFA is no different than the Alt-right violence (which I think was horrible as well).  Did you not see how they captured an entire area of Seattle and renamed it "Chop?" Or how the entire town of Minneapolis was destroyed? I know of people whose small businesses were burned down in the June riots. People in my suburb (30 mins from the largest city in the state) literally asked my parents for guns to protect themselves.  

Of course I agree with the message of the PEACEFUL protesters.  I actually attended a peaceful protest in my small town.  Obviously what happened to GF, JB, and BT was horrible, and police brutality should be something everyone works to end.  But don't pull this "the radical left are a bunch of angels" BS.  

 

People who post and comment in the off-topic forum on WSO are losers

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