Blackstone - met a couple of guys there; really down-to-earth people with what appears to be a genuine appreciation of what they do on a daily basis. Other two firms would be Centerview (great vibe as well) or Goldman Sachs (advancement opportunities are great, plus they seem to be genuinely concerned about their analysts). Guys at KKR seemed awesome too, but I'm not going to get in from undergrad.

 

Wow. I can't believe this is actually a thread.

"Look, you're my best friend, so don't take this the wrong way. In twenty years, if you're still livin' here, comin' over to my house to watch the Patriots games, still workin' construction, I'll fuckin' kill you. That's not a threat, that's a fact.
 
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This is a loaded question but a good one. I'd ask it since I want to know what people really want to do or just what they like. Let's face it, people don't grow up wanting to be an investment banker (when I was 3 I wanted to drive garbage trucks because they were big, made cool noises and the guys that hung off the back that came by my neighborhood were super nice and I thought they took turns hanging and driving). . Your story is an example of someone fishing to see if you have a personality. rehearsed answers give me a huge pause and I'm usually bummed to hear them.

Other times they might want to hear something vague, like "being impactful" or "making a difference" or whatever that means, or "witnessing transformation" so then you could say you are/were unsure exactly but like banking would be cool since it finances stuff. Like google/facebook for financed and raised capital right? or someone had to finance the buildings/roads etc, right? etc etc. It's kind of BSS-ey or really so, but that's what some people want to hear.

For example

I remember interviewing for a 1st year analyst position at a boutique ibank a long time ago and I mentioned that I had been to China and traveled to the frontier, way out west in China. The interviewers definitely got excited and asked what I liked the most. I said something like "the ethnic minority culture and social/ethnic diversity since China can seem homogenous at times" Their faces fell and one of them definitely looked up at the clock to see how much time we had left (20 minutes, FWIW). I know they wanted to hear BS like "rising disposable income, new upcoming services/products, infrastructure being built out etc and that's what ibanks/markets finance" etc etc. but I just counldn't bring myself to lie about it.

Nowadays (many years later), I have given a more general answer, and refer back to my 3 year old "dream" job which usually lightens the mood and brings about a laugh from both sides (I then flip the question to them). Or something like that. It makes everything more human. In the cases where the person hasn't been chill about it, well, screw it, I probably wouldn't want to work with them any way (it's a two way street).

I used to do Asia-Pacific PE (kind of like FoF). Now I do something else but happy to try and answer questions on that stuff.
 

Assuming money weren't an issue, I'd probably look to be an international tour guide. Not the kind that gives you the history of all the different buildings in a city but the kind that leads you on a hike through the Amazon.

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Seriously, 3 clothing related jobs in a row?

Pro PGA golfer, play an abbreviated schedule (15 events), shoot for $2mm a year all in w endorsements, and travel the rest.

Or tinker on antique autos.

if you like it then you shoulda put a banana on it
 

Porn star?

Jk. In all seriousness, forever is a long time. Assuming I had perpetual youth, my dream job would probably look something like this: spend the next 200 or so years accumulating wealth (IB would probably not be as bad if the hours never took a toll on your body. Once I did that, I'd probably spend another 50 years or so writing these stupid book ideas floating around in my head. After that, maybe a park ranger and enjoy nature for, say, 100 years or so. After, hopefully technology has advanced far enough that space travel is possible. I'd then spend the next 100 million years exploring our universe. After that, who knows?

 

Assuming money isnt an issue, I'd like to be involved in either films or sports. I'd happily be an intern for like a major sports agent or perhaps work in the league office of the NBA or something.

As an alternative, I like the idea of being able to travel so something similar to CompBanker would be great. But less hiking and more frequenting various bars and must-see sights.

 

Jesus, I think I'd want to do the same thing: generalist equity research at a hedge/mutual fund. It's literally what I do now if I have time to kill, and I think it's the only thing I could do for 5+ years without losing my mind.

Or maybe some sort of wine-related marketing/CorpStrat job. I'd say winemaking, but my palate is awful.

 

Really this is all you guys could come up with. If you are going to be in your 20s forever why not take risks and do something that might kill you.

I would be a formula 1 driver.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne
 

1) NHL Forward (Although I am too old for this now, this would have been nice in my early 20s) 2) NBA Small Forward (same reason as #1) 3) Distressed Strategies Hedge Fund Partner/Director 4) Banking partner/MD focused on restructuring (Houlihan/Evercore, etc) 5) Trader at Traf/Vitol/Glencore/Mercuria/etc... (sorry, to steal this idea from OP choice 3, but I read some books about physical commodity trading a while back and always thought this business was very interesting).

 

President of SEIU, or California Teachers or any CA labor union for that matter.

These guys get paid high six figures plus cadillac benefits plans plus defined benefits pension plans so they never ever have to save for retirements, plus ability to raid the pension funds at their own discretion whenever they feel like at, all of these and much more and you only need to pretend to stay awake for 2 hours per day and can spend the other 6 hours at work sleeping at the desk, like this guy:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/labor_big_real_heavy_sleeper_jl3C7gI…

Now that is what I call Big Labor

The best part is that since labor unions are so entrenched in CA, the state would rather tax all of private sector out of business/out of state so they can continue to pay the bloated union benefits ad infinitum.

Too late for second-guessing Too late to go back to sleep.
 

Veteran backup QB for a young, rising star QB a la Luck, Wilson (not RG3).

Overpaid NBA bench player. Examples would be austin Croshere, Mike Dunleavy, Lamar Odom sans Kardashian.

Tepper's right- hand man.

Carl Icahn's right-hand man.

5+ bb activist fund manager

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1) Dictator of a resource wealthy country where I have complete control over the military (which happens to be large and highly technologically advanced). Can't think of anything better than that.

"Yes. Money has been a little bit tight lately, but at the end of my life, when I'm sitting on my yacht, am I gonna be thinking about how much money I have? No. I'm gonna be thinking about how many friends I have and my children and my comedy albums."
 

film director/screenwriter travel channel food conoisseur(Anthony Bourdain's gig) sports illustrated supermodel edition photographer bear grylles gig (i like adventure, but also the comfort of a nice hotel bed.) Undercover CIA/FBI agent - Would probably be pretty exciting.

 
StryfeDSP:

I'd really like to be an AP Econ or History teacher at a high school.

At least at my high school it seemed like the best job. 6 figures, and it's AP so you only get the kids who actually wanna be there.

DAMN, what high school did you go to? Ours were definitely paid in the 60k range, definitely not six fig.
  1. Founder/CEO of a global marketing/PR/advertising conglomerate. Think Edelman, FleishmanHillard, Burston-Marsteller.
  2. Artistic director of a world-famous dance company - Royal Ballet, NYCB, Bolshoi, etc.
  3. Professional eSports gamer, probably for SC2.
  4. VP Marketing for a top-tier bank in an Asia ex-Japan region.
  5. Actor on Broadway.
Currently: future neurologist, current psychotherapist Previously: investor relations (top consulting firm), M&A consulting (Big 4), M&A banking (MM)
 
SilvioBerlusconi:

1) Dictator of a resource wealthy country where I have complete control over the military (which happens to be large and highly technologically advanced).
Can't think of anything better than that.

Lol, your username fits perfectly.

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StryfeDSP:

I'd really like to be an AP Econ or History teacher at a high school.

At least at my high school it seemed like the best job. 6 figures, and it's AP so you only get the kids who actually wanna be there.

DAMN, what high school did you go to? Ours were definitely paid in the 60k range, definitely not six fig.

I went to a top regional public high school. I never took the AP Econ course offered, but my AP US History class scores beat all of the private high schools test scores.

Main reason why the AP teachers get 6 figs is because all of them have their Masters or semi-retired after getting out of a good job. I know that the teacher for AP Chem and AP Physics (she thought AP Physics was too easy and made an AP Advanced Physics class...da fuk?) was a top chemist for Colgate.

And by 6 figs I mean like 100-180k.

 

1) Semi-benevolent dictator 2) Porn star 3) CIO and partner at a large HF. This can only be at the number three spot, if I don't have to talk to investors or the media. 4) Founder and CEO of any type of successful business. It also needs to be privately owned by me, because shareholders suck. 5) Some sort of cult/religious leader where all female members have to be my sex slave.

Competition is a sin. -John D. Rockefeller
 

Credit to: Tyler Durden, Fight Club (1999)

"Man, I see in Fight Club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see it squandered. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables – slaves with white collars.

Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our great war is a spiritual war. Our great depression is our lives.

We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't. We're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off."

 
goblan:

Gucci Mane's accountant hands down

"I've been seeing 25k periodically transferred to the estate of a Costello family... what exactly is your relationship with such?"

 

1) Professional surfer 2) Serial entrepreneur 3) Hotel resort owner in Costa Rica 4) Value investor like Charles Brandes, Warren Buffett, Graham 5) Helicopter pilot (if I had 20/20 vision)

 

Racecar driver Pro Golfer Model Photographer (like Terry Richardson but normal) Royalty of some random country Boxer

Frank Sinatra - "Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy."
 

1) Centerfielder for the New York Yankees - one of the most famous "positions" in all of sports 2) Head coach, Los Angeles Lakers - self explanatory 3) International man of intrigue - ala James Bond or some shit like that 4) #1 ranked professional golfer worldwide 5) Pilot for the Navy's Blue Angels

 

Honestly you can say NBA/NFL/MLB player. But I think the pro athletes with the best long term outlook are golf players. I'm assuming here that all pro athletes love their sport. I mean if you watch those retired pros in their 40s and 50s you can tell they miss playing. But golf players never have to quit. They can play until they die. It's not like football where once you're done with the NFL you never play again. Golf pros can just play the game their entire lives even long after they stop competing. That must be worth some happiness I'd think.

 

That's true. I don't watch golf, but how much money do they make compared to NBA players? The all-star and above NBA players make at least 100 million dollars in salary. The top guys make hundreds of millions in salary. When you factor in endorsements...Even the mid- to upper-mid-level players make close to 100 million in salary alone.

 

8-12 million dollars per year over the course of 8-10 years (2nd and 3rd contracts) is "close to 100 million on it's on. Factor in 2 or 3 years at a lower salary, and you're well within that neighborhood...which is what I said. I didn't say lower-level player. Assuming that they don't have career-ending injuries, mid- and upper-mid-level players easily make that amount of money.

 
Vinsanity:

That's true. I don't watch golf, but how much money do they make compared to NBA players? The all-star and above NBA players make at least 100 million dollars in salary. The top guys make hundreds of millions in salary. When you factor in endorsements...Even the mid- to upper-mid-level players make close to 100 million in salary alone.

The vast majority of players don't get anywhere near that. Average salary in the NBA is like $6 million a year. However I'm not talking about money. The original question was what jobs are most 'desirable' on a long term basis. It's a vague question. However I'm thinking in terms of happiness. Sure, the average NBA player will make much much more money than the average PGA golfer. But the PGA golfer will be able to compete at the highest level for much longer. Once they're done with the PGA Tour they can do the Seniors Tour. Then once they're tired of that they still continue to play the rest of their lives. Once you're done in the NFL/NBA/MLB you're just done. Golfers never have to stop playing barring major injury. That to me is 'desirable'. Everyone is obsessing about money but I'm saying what if you can do what you love to do until you're buried? Golfers can.

 

I hear you. The "vast majority" probably don't, but I didn't reference the vast majority. The "average" number takes into account all of the people who I didn't reference (rookie contracts, lower-level players and over-the-hill veterans). Even at an average of 6 million dollars per year, lifetime salary could easily be approximately 80+ million.

 
Vinsanity:

8-12 million dollars per year over the course of 8-10 years (2nd and 3rd contracts) is "close to 100 million on it's on. Factor in 2 or 3 years at a lower salary, and you're well within that neighborhood...which is what I said. I didn't say lower-level player. Assuming that they don't have career-ending injuries, mid- and upper-mid-level players easily make that amount of money.

For future reference, most people mean 'annual salary' when they reference salary, not career earnings.

Guy: What's your salary? 1st year analyst: $28 million Guy: What? You're making $28 million in salary in your first year out of college? That's amazing. 1st year analyst: Well, actually, that's what I hope to make pre-tax over the course of my career, assuming everything plays out as expected. Guy: Riiiiiight.

 

This thread is still active? OK I will play again.

My real dream job is to be the headmaster of an all girl Catholic boarding school. You know, one of those old-fashioned academies where corporal punishment is still allowed, i.e. spanking etc.

Too late for second-guessing Too late to go back to sleep.
 
brandon st randy:

This thread is still active? OK I will play again.

My real dream job is to be the headmaster of an all girl Catholic boarding school. You know, one of those old-fashioned academies where corporal punishment is still allowed, i.e. spanking etc.

Ok, that's a good one. Of course, for me, these would have to be pretty dull girls who are aged 18-40 y/o in high school. But, that's ok.

Being the pole for strippers might be another attractive career for me.

 
Thurnis Haley:

Honestly you can say NBA/NFL/MLB player. But I think the pro athletes with the best long term outlook are golf players. I'm assuming here that all pro athletes love their sport. I mean if you watch those retired pros in their 40s and 50s you can tell they miss playing. But golf players never have to quit. They can play until they die. It's not like football where once you're done with the NFL you never play again. Golf pros can just play the game their entire lives even long after they stop competing. That must be worth some happiness I'd think.

I got it...NBA/NFL/MLB player up until 40...from then on change career to golf and be a PGA golfer till 80...done!

 
Dance While the Music On:

1. Own a chain of big fashion house including VS
2. Nobel Prize Winner
3. Owner of Playboy
4. Successor of Berkshire Hathaway
5. HF Manager

In summary, Genius Billionaire Playboy

Screw the first two ITB. The second are better. Apply the golden rule and you will see why.

 

They are in order, but pretty close.

1) Venture capitalist (Name partner at my own firm) 2) Talk show host/Actor 3) Record label producer 4) College Professor 5) Head chef/owner of a restaurant

"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there" - Will Rogers
 
swagon:
a free money dispenser, midget butlers dressed as leprechauns, naked fridays
Midget butlers are pretty good at shining shoes... but other than that I found them useless. Now I only have one on each my yacht and jet.

HINT: When customs checks your plane, put the leprechaun in the overhead compartment. Surprisingly, they almost never look there.

 

enron mid 90's hands down - or really any commodity trading role as the merc and chicago board of trade started up. Spreads where fat and the few players involved absolutely ran shit.

Entire markets got cornered way back in the day. Not saying it was honest or decent behavior - just a good time to seriously hustle the onion farmers and make a killing.

i had a very short experience with commodity trading via an internship at the nymex at the copper pit in '06 - amid the housing bubble.

I visited a buddy there a few years later and the place was literally a shell of its former self as much trading went online via tablet instead of hand gestures and open outcry. I'd still cut off a toe to work there - in terms of market access and dynamics of a daily job there is no better job in my opinion.

 

Trading Assistant/Coffee Making Bitch at Commodities Corporation.

But if we are opening this up to other industries, I would go with Producer @ Death Row Records in the early 1990s. Just the music that is.

 
Cash4Gold:
Trading Assistant/Coffee Making Bitch at Commodities Corporation.

This. Although being at Quantum during the 90's would've been fantastic as well.

Outside finance I gotta agree with D M on Rockefeller and happy with Top Gear. 90's Top Gear though with Tiff Needell still on, James May and Hammond look fun to hang out with though.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis, you can't trust people Jeremy
 

Founding Partner @ Microsoft 1975

More Realistic?

Nerds @ Google mid to late 90s (so you could get a nice chunk of dat IPO $$$$)

Literally anyone in a decent to high-level position in the early days or IPO time of a successful startup (Craigslist, Facebook, Google, etc.) or company (Goldman, Visa, Glencore, etc.)

Reality hits you hard, bro...
 

Partner, Rockefeller & Andrews, 1865

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
trazer985:
Is everyone here just about the success and not about the experience? For me, Apple when it went from something to nothing to everything, just to see the characters involved and how they reacted.

I can't think of many better experiences then working with Rockefeller as he took over the United States' economy. Honestly, though, there are plenty of firms I'd have loved to work for in different areas:

-Nike: Advertising, starting in the mid-late 1980s [experience: can you say MJ?] -Microsoft: Finance, mid-late 1980s [exp: building the technology industry] -Google: Finance, late 1990s [exp: building such a broad company from the ground up] -Pictet e Cie: Private Banking, early 1960s [exp: be a part of Switzerland's turning into the center of the world for political - Cold War neutral - and financial reasons] -JP Morgan: I Banking (?), mid 1890s [exp: financing US Steel Corp -Morgan Stanley: I Banking, 1950s [exp: GM, AT&T, etc ) -Paulson & Co: Hedge Fund, mid 2000s, especially 2007 [exp: calling the subprime mortgage crisis] -KKR: Private Equity, Late 1980s [exp: RJR Nabisco, anyone?]

I could keep going, but I think the picture here is success often equals a good experience. Though sometimes it doesn't, I guess

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 

King of England back in the day. Nothing more baller then to say, the sun never sets on my country bitch.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne
 

i'd like to be a 10 year old kid with a Datek Account (lol look it up...anyone remember these guys?) back in the 2000s making random trades and making millions due to the bubble and selling all my positions before the bubble burst.

 

how much were the enron traders making around that time period?

You give me a gift? *BAM* Thank you note! You invite me somewhere? *POW* RSVP! You do me a favor? *WHAM* Favor returned! Do not test my politeness.
 

president of nintendo-mid-late 90's. POKEMON

"Look, you're my best friend, so don't take this the wrong way. In twenty years, if you're still livin' here, comin' over to my house to watch the Patriots games, still workin' construction, I'll fuckin' kill you. That's not a threat, that's a fact.
 

Freelance male pornstar, mostly working with Vivid Video or Reality Kings - Get to SMANG with Amy Reid and Shyla Stylez once per week for about 10 years. Not much in the way of PE exit OPS though. Have to become a director.

OR

A poker pro with Full Tilt from the beginning of Moneymaker era till now.

OR

A professional wrestler in the 1980s through the glory days of NWO and DX.

Fuck finance, are you guys serious?

 

BX Restructuring, Houlihan SSG, Qatalyst, MS Tech

‎"Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to become the means by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of other men. Blood, whips and guns or dollars."
 

Just to be in the Bay Area: Qatalyst SF or Centerview SF.

I'm pretty happy with my group, though.

When one man, for whatever reason, has an opportunity to lead an extraordinary life, he has no right to keep it to himself.
 

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