I’d say if you really want to get into IB and are. Willing to put in the work, pretty much anyone can do it. Not sure about breakdown of BB/IB/MM/boutique though. People end up all over the place. Some schools are over represented at certain banks and underrepresented at others.

 

I agree. Currently at HYP. Definitely looks good on the resume and all, but people also don’t realize that you’re pretty much on your own when it comes to recruiting. No support from the school, no finance classes (at least where I am), and our career center is a joke.

I wouldn’t want to go anywhere else, though— people I’ve met here have been amazing. I genuinely feel like I am a much better critical thinker as a result of where I go. But everything recruiting-wise is entirely self-driven.

 

Recruiting has been a self driven process for a while, even for target schools. Career centers are an extremely outdated concept lol. Outside of scheduling OCR events and the occasional resume review, they're really not that useful anymore considering the fact that no one applies to jobs "in person" anymore like the pre-internet days

 

poor troll attempt, the placements at that school speak for themselves

if uva is overrated so are mich, cal, and duke

 

Last two analyst cycles I've seen, new hires/interns out of TCU >> SMU

I'd go as far to say that the veeeeeerrry small number of Baylor candidates are better than the SMU kids, although I admit the obvious survivorship bias makes this a very apples and oranges comparison.

 

Didn’t go to SMU but work at a top shop in Houston. SMU places way better than TCU/A&M. SMU places at most of the top shops in Houston and has strong pipelines to Citi and Moelis NY. Also the quality of Alts kids is only matched by top UT and Rice kids. 

 

Agreed. Have a friend there now who landed a job but he told me its way too competitive for the max 2-3 slots per bank (and usually 1-2 spots). 

 

Guessing its kids who couldn't go to legitimate targets and need to exaggerate for their egos. UVA is either spoiled legacy frat bros, nerdy TJHSST kids, or plain idiotic VCCS transfers.

I'm a student here, love it, but won't pretend that the % of kids we send into high finance is better than what you would find at a typical semitarget.

 

do you consider duke and gu semitargets then? because if you look at placements online uva places the same/more. if your definition of a target is just HYPSW schools then you're out of touch with the landscape nowadays

sounds like you're claiming to go to uva just so you can give your bullshit comment more credibility. uva is a name that is well regarded and known by every bank on the street; just like those other two grea schools

 

I go to UF and those who don’t do MSF still end up at solid MM shops (STRH/RJ/WF). Sure it’s no Goldman but it’s not bad for a nontarget.

 

Damn Billy, you really riling the kids up. So many triggered "interns" haha

 

I go to UVA (3rd year, doing IB this summer), in the comm school there are about ~370 3rd year students. No clue how many want to do finance / banking, but probably a decent amount. most comm school students do IB, consulting, accounting, AM. very rarely into PE or HF but I do have some friends that jumped right in.

id say ive seen over 20ish kids go top tier BB (GS, MS, JPM), 20-30 go BB but lower tier (CS, BAML, UBS), 30-40 go middle market, and 10+ go EBs. I don't have other schools #s to compare it to, but I'd say thats pretty damn good...def not overrated lol.

 

I graduated from the MS Commerce this past year. I won't compare my program's placement to BS Comm since BS Comm's is way better.

Out of 40 finance track students in my program, we have the following placement: McKinsey, Bain, Greenhill, CS LevFin, Harris Williams x 2, Stifel, MM PE, boutique IB doing healthcare in Charlotte (myself but I turned down the offer), RBC, boutique IB doing fintech (not FTP).

Those are only students whom I know well. There are a few other students I don't know well or barely talk to.

This is 11/40 already getting IB/top consulting offers, give or take I would say 15/40 got offers comparable to IB offers or actual IB offers. That's about 37.5%. I won't say this rate is low.

This is for UVa's MS commerce program. For BS commerce it is only better. I don't know why people throw MS at comments saying UVa is def a target.

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I'd toss out a wildcard here: UC Berkeley. Unfortunately for them, a lot of IB/CO/Tech recruiters use them as the backup pool to Stanford because of geographic proximity. It's a shame really, it's not as though the kids are significantly less talented or hardworking, they're just screwed based on the fact many firms have smaller offices along the West Coast and therefore have less spots they need to fill.

 

Stanford and MIT are a clear tier above cmu/cal for tech and especially for classes/overcrowding in their CS departments.

 

LOL if you have half a pulse at cal you can land a banking gig. Some of the most entitled, lazy, and ungrateful kids coming out of that school. Had one a couple years back who had his offer rescinded for lying about interning at a "PE firm" - turned out to be a company he made up. Another one claimed he ran some consulting firm that did web development for "dozens" of F1000 companies. All turned out to be BS.

 

I don’t really know what you mean by that. “Half a pulse” either you are saying that banking in itself isn’t competitive or that their are so many spots open for Cal students that anyone can get them? Either way the comment makes very little sense. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say you aren’t a Cal or Haas alum.

I also wanna say that getting into Haas from Cal is VERY hard. To get into Cal first, maintain a great gpa and one of the hardest institutions in the world and do a secondary application after that to get into the business school... yes it is very hard. There is a reason it is such a small program. My initial post was to highlight the difficulty of conversion due to the competitive nature of being a student at Cal.

 

Dartmouth is one of the top schools for buyside out of undergrad. Your comment is totally wrong

 

To be honest WUSTL doesn't seem horrible (certainly improved over the years) but not exactly close to anything else. I'd agree that WUSTL seems like a solid semitarget (probably a stretch what do I know) for MBB and probably a target for like Stifel lmao

 

Former Brown student here. We don’t get as much recruitment as the top targets (around 75% of the major banks come) but it’s fairly easy to get an offer since there’s maybe 25 kids total who want to do banking. Just for perspective, when Centerview came there were like 9 kids total at the info session. Most people who wanted to do banking from my year ended up with top offers. Consulting is much bigger here, with MBB each taking double digit numbers

 

Probs Mcintire. With the recruiting deadline being moved earlier and earlier. There's literally no point for it since you'll be done with Junior year recruiting by the time your actually in Mcintire. Have fun competing with 1000+ other UVA econ majors for banking jobs!

 

UVA as a whole is still target but I'm just saying that there's no real point for Mcintire as you'll already be done for junior recruiting. Keep in mind that it'll be harder to break in from Econ as basically everyone interested in IB will me majoring in something similar.

 

Both pretty shit, in my experience BC is heavily overrated while I've never even seen a BU kid yet.

 

Dude, I think you should ask these questions to BC/BU students. A lot of the information on this website is false. Some schools are overexaggerated and some schools are shit on for no reason. 

I interned at an EB(CVP/EVR/LAZ) and my MD was a BC Alum. So that definitely means something if you want to break into the firm I interned at.

 But the other person is right. I haven't met too many people from BU in banking.

 

I'll disagree with the other sentiments about both being bad. BC alum, and I can say that the resources are certainly there if you want to do it. Getting into IBST is certainly incredibly helpful, but even if not you can make way. THe alumni are absolutely great and most BC people end up being incredibly chill and will offer to take networking calls, mock interviews, outwardly tell you that they are moving through the pipeline. What's interesting, though, is with no frats on campus you have a much bigger advantage finding that via clubs (like club soccer for example). Know plenty of people that placed in BBs. EBs I think are a different story but it's definitely still do able. Even BU, I don't think it's that bad. Don't really know how flushed out the resources / pipeline is at BU but I've definitely stumbled upon folks who went into banking just casually on LinkedIn.

Also, BC gets plenty of OCR. If anything, it's much much harder to go to, say, MBB compared to BB IB

 

When did I say BC was a bad school? Its heavily overrated because people like you consider it a semi-target when it honestly doesn't stack up with other colleges considered to be in that tier.

Semi-target colleges: Vanderbilt, WashU Olin, Middlebury, UNC KF, USC Marshall, UT Austin McCombs, UCLA, CMC, Emory Goizueta, Rice, and CMU Tepper. One thing all these schools have in common is that they're at least regional targets in where they are situated. BC has to compete with Tufts, Wellesley, and BU to fight for the scraps left by Harvard and MIT in Boston. It gets even tougher in NYC. And thats not even considering the west coast.

I know you're a BC student but be honest with yourself, if you were good enough to get into the semi-target colleges I listed above, then this wouldnt be a debate

 

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