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Andy note: See "A Male Banker Describes A Typical Female Banker In NYC — And Why He Won't Date One" on BI yesterday.

This post was inspired by What every banker girl needs. Once again, this reminds me that there are many delusional girls in New York City. Village Voice published an article in 2011 that detailed how unbearable these women are: Dear Single Women of NYC: It's Not Them, It's You.

As a Young Asian Professional (YAP) in NYC, I am affiliated with various social groups including Asian Ivy League Mixers and one type of girls that you can't miss out is your typical "banker chick". I want to talk about how they think, what they got it all wrong and why you shouldn't waste your time on them.

My quick bio: I am at a Private Equity firm that focuses on Emerging Markets. My other job is working as "Life & Dating Coach". Started as a hobby in 2010, I mainly focus on Asian Investment Bankers in the New York City area. Here is My Blog. I have helped many men get married as well as get into a long lasting relationship. I also write a column for one of the best dating coaches in the US. I enjoy helping people with their career challenges as well as with their relationship problems.

Just to remind our readers about Bankerella's post, a bit self absorbed?

Bankerella:
Every week I handle a bunch (call it a round half-dozen) of challenges that I consider to be a basic part of my life. You know: Take a bullet for the team. Be unable to get enough time to eat or use the bathroom for 6-8 hours. Get shit on. Stand up for yourself to the guy who signs your checks. Make a big, career-defining decision on data you know is bad. Meet a big CFO for the first time and be asked to tell him, on the spot, in front of your boss, what you think he's doing wrong.

Wait it gets better...

Bankerella:
But this scrub? He's constantly freaking out about challenges that wouldn't be challenges at all if he weren't such a delicate fucking flower. I do not want to listen to him trying (and failing) to solve life problems that I consider insignificant. Also, my time is fucking valuable. So do I. If you get two hours on my calendar, I need to walk away with two hours' worth of good stuff, and I want a guy who expects the same from me.

As I was reading her post, I can't help but to remember a few quotes that I have read from this article: Dear Single Women of NYC: It's Not Them, It's You.

Village Voice:
At some point, I yelled at almost all of these men for not being "what I wanted," and, as we all do, turned to my female friends for consolation and support. "He doesn't deserve you," they would say, my own Greek chorus. "You're so much better than him." Then, inevitably: "Why are New York men such assholes?"

Village Voice:
"There are no good single men living in New York City! They're all gay or taken!" It's followed by various tales of woe regarding "typical NYC jerks" and the evils they have inflicted upon amazing, upstanding, attractive, intelligent, high-powered New York City women who are so much better than the men they date.

Village Voice:
For every loser I've screamed at, there have been nice, normal single guys with perfectly acceptable ZIP codes and ages and jobs and habits who never did a thing wrong but for some reason were chucked after the first or second, or maybe even third, date for being boring, predictable, too nice, too normal, not successful enough, or . . . admitted to no one, perhaps not even myself: too available. The scariest of scary words.

Let's talk about your typical "banker chick" in NYC.
1. Predominately most banker chicks that I have been has been Asians and Eastern Europeans who came to US for school and got recruited into doing FO roles at various financial institutions including investment banks, consulting at McKinsey, or Corporate Strategy at Avon/ Tiffany and so forth.

2. Most banker chicks I have met are hardcore nerds. They went to the best high schools in their respective countries. They are top 10% of their class. If they were here for their MBA, they went to top notch undergraduates either in the US or in their home countries. I haven't forgotten about American born Chinese (ABC). All of these banker chicks went to Ivy League.

3. They are currently in age between 22-29 with a six figures taxable income (at least $100,000 base plus bonus).

4. They are extremely delusional: they think that their Ivy League education combined with their high paying job place them in a different level in the dating scene. I have met a girl at Goldman Sachs who works in their Quant group. She always wears Chanel, head to toe for every networking events and always give off condescending attitude.

What they say and how they think. These are things that I actually hear:
1. "I want to date someone at my level. My current boyfriend is only an Analyst at a BB. I need to at least date someone who is at the VP level." This actually happened to one of my best friends.

2. "Do I look like a handout? I am independent woman and I expect men to pay for dates and I also want someone who can take care of me, if I choose to be a full-time housewife." This is one of the most common lines that I have heard. I am always confused what does this actually mean. Do you want to be a full time housewife or not? How can you claim to be independent while expecting men to pay? No, I am not kidding. Match.com Dates $1,200 Free Dinners and Here

3. "I like my current boyfriend but I am not attracted to him. I have been seeing a few other men on the side whom I find pretty attractive and excited to be with." I knew a couple of banker chicks in NYC, who are doing exactly this. They feel that their current boyfriends are beta-males (good providers) while they look for fun with alpha-males.

4. "Where have all the good guys go?" To all the banker chicks, here is my answer:

Btw, meet my newest family member named:
MoMo, 4 months old male Pomeranian
MoMo, The Pomeranian Here is how you should really choose your partner.
Over the weekend, I had a conversation with a friend over lunch. We updated each other on how things were going in our lives and the people that we came across. Then we continued to talk about how dating in New York City can be pretty tough. We exchanged our ideas on what our ideal relationship would be like? She started mentioned about lifestyles and habits. Then we started talking about the big picture items such as: what would make or break a relationship? She asked me what I want from my partner. I said pretty simple, only three things:

1) Honesty & Loyalty
2) Positivity
3) Persistence

She said that’s a pretty simple list. It is pretty simple. I believe that I need all of these in my partner. Pretty obvious. Pretty simple. And yet I am pretty certain that it’s hard to find someone who can be “consistently” like that.

Honesty & Loyalty: I think they go hand in hand. I don’t think one can exist without the others. Honesty means really being honest with yourself. Honestly making a living. Honestly living life. Honestly understanding who you are. I have rarely met people who are really honest with themselves. A lot of time people are doing things that other people want. In order to know what you truly want you have to ask yourself a few questions:

a) Am I willing to put the work in?
b) Why do I want this?
c) How far would I go to get this?
d) Am I trying to impress someone?

Loyalty, first means being loyal to yourself. Loyal to yourself means standing by your beliefs. Loyal to your feelings. Loyal to your callings in life. So the first requirement is really asking my partner to be really honest to herself in learning who she is and then loyally following her true callings in life. Then it’s about being loyal to your partner. It means that no matter thick or thin you are willing to stand by him. Remember the marriage vow?

“I, ____, take you, ____, to be my (husband/wife). I promise to be true to you in good times and in bad, in sickness and in health. I will love you and honor you all the days of my life. I, ____, take you, ____, for my lawful (husband/wife), to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part.”

If you read that carefully, you will realize that relationship and marriage is all about really accepting and being loyal to someone through thick and thin. Sounds pretty simple, but it is something really rare to see.

Positivity: To me, being positive doesn’t mean someone who always sees life on the bright side. Being positive requires someone to have faith in believing other than himself. It’s about having faith and really believing that there is something greater than ourselves that we cannot see. It is the faith that things will always get better even when the situation looks extremely bleak. It also means someone who has a long term view in life. Okay what I want right now cannot be done right now, but what can I really do at this point to bring me that much closer to my goal? It is to see the opportunities in every difficulty. It is the ability to recognize the biggest challenges in life are just opportunities for you to excel. I haven’t met many people who can do that. That brings me to the next item on the list: Persistence.

Persistence: I think after having all the qualities I have mentioned above, you don’t have this one, it’s all a waste. I have never really seen someone who gets things done right on the first try. We are just not born that way. A lot of things that are worth achieving really require dedication (i.e. like getting a six pack abs). It requires a lot of time working day in and day out. These things never really pay dividends in the short term. You really need to invest a lot of your time and energy to benefit in the long run. Are you really the kind of person who can give up short term benefits in order to do well in the long run? Would you get easily depressed because things are not going well for you? Even if everyone in the room disagree with you and tell you that you are just wasting your time, will you be able to brush off their comments and keep moving? That’s something that I really admire and I think it’s really hard to find someone like that.

If you haven't seen this: CEO's Reply to A Pretty Girl

For those who are Asians, I highly recommend these:
NYMAG: Paper Tigers
Creating a Future of Positive Male Asian Role Models
Presentation on Above Talk in PDF
The Talk on YouTube

My Story:
Part 1: My Pursuit of Happyness
Part 2: My Pursuit of Happyness

See my previous posts in this series:
Day 1: To Be A Better Man
Day 2: Healthy Competition Among Mature Men
Day 3: I HATE YOU
Day 4: SWAG, Do You Have It?
Day 5: Word of Advice
Day 6: 10 Important Life Lessons
Day 7: Unofficial Guide to Banking & Dating
Day 8: Any MMA Fighters Among WSO Monkeys
Bonus: Previous Useful Posts
To Keep You Motivated
List of Resources for Personal Development
Free Modeling Course
Q&A Session with Human
NYSSA Equity Research Work Samples
NYSSA Banker Clichés

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Comments (198)

  • hoodinternet's picture
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  • huanleshalemei's picture

    I'm thinking 'bout getting you tickets
    front row and center so you can see the show~~

    The Auto Show

  • happypantsmcgee's picture

    Asian banker telling dudes how to pick up chicks? Interesting...

    If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

  • shark-monkey's picture

    The Asian hitch!

    Fear is the greatest motivator. Motivation is what it takes to find profit.

  • In reply to hoodinternet
    wolverine19x89's picture

    hoodinternet:
    In b4 shitstorm

    if I could, I'd throw shit at you twice

    If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough.

    "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.

  • Status_Quo's picture

    hahah

    http://ayainsight.co/ Curating the best advice and making it actionable.

  • That_Aston's picture

    Awesome Post. However, my plan is a bit more simple. Find an innocent Southern girl for wife material after you get all the partying out of your system.

    Here to learn and hopefully pass on some knowledge as well. SB if I helped.

  • The Kid's picture

    -Deleted-

    (I feel bad for the deleting this comment since someone gave me an SB for it... sorry, my bad)

  • WSOusername's picture

    isnt that the dog in Brady's avatar?

    GBS

  • 09grad's picture

    Really great post man. Am really glad that you are contributing to WSO.

    As stupid as bankerella is, unfortunately I've also found quite a few girls on the street that are much like her. A little nice to see that I'm not the only one who has had this experience.

    Keep it up with the great posts.

  • Calnus's picture

    Haha, nice post. Definitely know a few girls like her in IB.

  • Hayek's picture

    This is some real talk. You're dropping knowledge in this thread.

    In order for a relationship to get off the ground, let alone work, both people need to be willing to let their guard down, take someone for who he/she is, and realize that he/she is just another human trying to get by and have some happiness. It's tough to do that if you go in with an attitude ("I deserve X") or some sort of checklist.

    Think of it like investing: strip away the effects of "Mr. Market" -- the other person's career, clothes (though maybe that might need to wait for a later date!), and attitude and ask yourself whether this person is honest, caring, positive, etc. THIS is the important stuff. You're looking for someone to spend the rest of your life with, and the superficial things aren't that important.

  • WalMartShopper's picture

    tl dr: why are you even responding to her post? don't you have an arranged marriage to get to???

    ps: thanks for the ms's

    If the glove don't fit, you must acquit!

  • blastoise's picture
  • TOB2020's picture

    Not that I disagree with you on your 3 requirements (I am a big fan of 3) but are you saying that looks don't matter? If so you are a way bigger man then I am or perhaps I am too shallow. I don't care how awesome a chick is if I am not attracted to her then I don't see anything long term. On the flip side, I don't care how hot a chick is, if she doesn't have any substance in her she really only good for one thing (ok maybe a few things).

    I've said it many times, you have inspirational posts, I especially think its awesome you don't turn use the fact that your an Asian dude as an obstacle in your dating life. Too many Asian's dude sell themselves short/lack the confidence to be really successful in the game (not that I blame them, they do have it rough).

  • In reply to WSOusername
    SirTradesaLot's picture

    GoldmanBallSachs:
    isnt that the dog in Brady's avatar?

    Exactly what I was thinking.

    adapt or die:
    What would P.T. Barnum say about you?

    MY BLOG

  • phatcatman21's picture

    Good post. How are those Ivy League happy hour events? Are they useful for meeting women or networking? What are your suggestions for meeting datable people in NYC?

  • In reply to TOB2020
    Brady4MVP's picture

    TOB2020:
    Not that I disagree with you on your 3 requirements (I am a big fan of 3) but are you saying that looks don't matter? If so you are a way bigger man then I am or perhaps I am too shallow. I don't care how awesome a chick is if I am not attracted to her then I don't see anything long term. On the flip side, I don't care how hot a chick is, if she doesn't have any substance in her she really only good for one thing (ok maybe a few things).

    I've said it many times, you have inspirational posts, I especially think its awesome you don't turn use the fact that your an Asian dude as an obstacle in your dating life. Too many Asian's dude sell themselves short/lack the confidence to be really successful in the game (not that I blame them, they do have it rough).

    I had no idea Human is asian. Mad props to him for overcoming those obstacles in his dating life. I agree that asian men have it rough in America, worse than any other ethnic group. The media continues to portray them in an unflattering light. And it's still acceptable to be racist towards asian guys while god forbid, you say anything remotely critical about blacks.

  • In reply to SirTradesaLot
    Brady4MVP's picture

    SirTradesaLot:
    GoldmanBallSachs:
    isnt that the dog in Brady's avatar?

    Exactly what I was thinking.

    That dog is a small chihuahua. The one in my avatar is a large gorgeous chow chow, a fine ancient breed that originated in China.

  • Brady4MVP's picture

    Another amazing post by Human.

    I blame modern feminism for much of this problem. It tells women that they are special, entitled to certain things, and should HAVE IT ALL. There is no need for compromise or settling down; if you are smart and reasonably attractive, men should bow to your every whim (of course after being an asshole to you first since you won't date nice guys). I think ultra-educated women are especially egregious on this front. Their behavior reeks of insecurity, vanity, and ego.

  • J.t.Tran's picture

    Thanks for pointing out my talk at Wharton. I hope your readers enjoy it!

    I've had several clients who were part of the Wall Street ecology and encountered many of the same difficulties as you described. Of course, the opposite problem is had here in Los Angeles, beautiful girls but completely bereft of any gainful employment that doesn't include the use of their looks or, god forbid, intelligence.

    Pick your poison.

    Founder of ABCs Of Attraction
    http://www.abcsofattraction.com

  • In reply to Brady4MVP
    SirTradesaLot's picture

    Brady4MVP:

    I blame modern feminism for much of this problem.

    How would the issue be handled better by ancient feminism or post-modern feminism?

    Also, I'm pretty sure that was your dog.

    adapt or die:
    What would P.T. Barnum say about you?

    MY BLOG

  • swordfish24's picture

    Human:
    All of these banker chicks went to Ivy League.

    you are extrapolating your biased sample to the entire population. it's honestly just the ivy league banker chicks. almost all of the ivy banker girls i know are like that, especially if they went to HYPW. the non-ivy banker girls are somewhat of a different breed. give uva, duke, berkeley, wellesley a shot.

  • fearless's picture

    To the above that's not true. There were some girls who came to the WSO conference just to find a successful banker, and those girls are from UVA, Michigan, China, etc. I'm not sure if anybody took note of that, but I saw the gold diggers from a mile away.

  • In reply to That_Aston
    Human's picture

    That_Aston:
    Awesome Post. However, my plan is a bit more simple. Find an innocent Southern girl for wife material after you get all the partying out of your system.

    That's exactly my plan. Find someone who love me for who I am:
    Not where I go to school. Not where I work. Or where I live.

    "I am the hero of the story. I don't need to be saved."

  • In reply to 09grad
    Human's picture

    09grad:
    Really great post man. Am really glad that you are contributing to WSO.

    As stupid as bankerella is, unfortunately I've also found quite a few girls on the street that are much like her. A little nice to see that I'm not the only one who has had this experience.

    Keep it up with the great posts.

    Thanks. I am sure not everyone is like this but a lot of Ivy League Asian girls who work on Wall Street are "mostly" like this. And I have been all the Asian social networking events in New York City so I am pretty sure that my sample size is pretty big.

    "I am the hero of the story. I don't need to be saved."

  • In reply to Hayek
    Human's picture

    Hayek:
    In order for a relationship to get off the ground, let alone work, both people need to be willing to let their guard down, take someone for who he/she is, and realize that he/she is just another human trying to get by and have some happiness.

    That is exactly my point because everything can and will change down the road. You have to truly love someone and be willing to stick to the end.

    "I am the hero of the story. I don't need to be saved."

  • In reply to TOB2020
    Human's picture

    TOB2020:
    Not that I disagree with you on your 3 requirements (I am a big fan of 3) but are you saying that looks don't matter? If so you are a way bigger man then I am or perhaps I am too shallow. I don't care how awesome a chick is if I am not attracted to her then I don't see anything long term. On the flip side, I don't care how hot a chick is, if she doesn't have any substance in her she really only good for one thing (ok maybe a few things).

    I totally agree with what you are saying.
    But as you get older look become less important.
    Because hot girls usually come with baggage.

    "I am the hero of the story. I don't need to be saved."

  • In reply to SirTradesaLot
    Human's picture

    SirTradesaLot:
    GoldmanBallSachs:
    isnt that the dog in Brady's avatar?

    Exactly what I was thinking.

    Mine is a four months old Pomeranian. =)

    "I am the hero of the story. I don't need to be saved."

  • mdk6c's picture

    Wow, the guy who wrote My Pursuit of Happyness ("...I cried intensely"...) and Bankerella. You guys are perfect for each another. She'll bring home the bacon and you'll stay home all day watching soaps.

  • Nebular's picture

    Holy shit that video is genius.

  • JDawg's picture

    You know, I'd be pissed off about this too if it weren't for the fact that 99% of uber-successful prestige-whoring banker snob chicks are busted (which partially explains why they become so successful in the first place).

    On another note, this whole "Asian networking club" shit pisses me off. By classifying yourself as an Asian and going out of your way to meet exclusively with Asians at Asian-only events, you're only serving to further segregate and isolate Asians from the rest of society (imagine if redheads did that). Also, the country of Asia is so fucking diverse that I don't see how being Chinese means that you automatically have some sort of special connection with a Korean or Filipino anyways.

    Yes Asian people may not have it as great as white people, but let's not pretend like it's any worse than Indians or black people.

  • blastoise's picture

    why yall hatin on bankerella it isn't like any of you will be as prestigious and leggy as she is

  • In reply to JDawg
    Human's picture

    JDawg:
    On another note, this whole "Asian networking club" shit pisses me off. By classifying yourself as an Asian and going out of your way to meet exclusively with Asians at Asian-only events, you're only serving to further segregate and isolate Asians from the rest of society (imagine if redheads did that). Also, the country of Asia is so fucking diverse that I don't see how being Chinese means that you automatically have some sort of special connection with a Korean or Filipino anyways.

    Thanks for your comment. My answer has two parts. First, my social network is extremely diverse and not limited to only Asian community. Just look at the fact that I am an active member on WSO both online and offline. WSO is an extremely diverse community globally with people from various ethnicity including Asian. My best friends and mentors represent various institutions and different ethnic groups including and not limited to: Jewish, Russian, Hispanic, African-American, Italian, French, Chinese, Israeli and so forth.

    Secondly, my focus on Asian community was to maximize my career opportunities. As an Asian immigrant, you soon realize that people are more likely to help when you have similar backgrounds especially same ethnicity. I have to leverage this similarity to the max, in order to maximize my chances on breaking into Wall Street. Hope this answers your question.

    "I am the hero of the story. I don't need to be saved."

  • In reply to Callus
    Human's picture

    Callus:
    Ivy League Asian women study and work very hard to go to the right school and work for the right Co., to COMPENSATE for their lack of beauty compared to women of other races (maybe except black).

    Let's be honest, they are bottom feeders to men of all races who can't get a decent looking white girl.

    Ask Tran, if even Asian men want to date only non-Asian women, especially whites.

    Who's Bankerella? Is she Asian? Otherwise she sounds hot.

    Let's not get into the racist comments. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I am commenting on "their reactions" to the dating situation after they get to (career wise) where they are right now. I don't like to comment or believe that their actions are solely due to their race or ethnicity.

    "I am the hero of the story. I don't need to be saved."

  • In reply to Human
    Brady4MVP's picture

    Human:
    09grad:
    Really great post man. Am really glad that you are contributing to WSO.

    As stupid as bankerella is, unfortunately I've also found quite a few girls on the street that are much like her. A little nice to see that I'm not the only one who has had this experience.

    Keep it up with the great posts.

    Thanks. I am sure not everyone is like this but a lot of Ivy League Asian girls who work on Wall Street are "mostly" like this. And I have been all the Asian social networking events in New York City so I am pretty sure that my sample size is pretty big.

    I agree. This is one reason why I stay away from Asian networking and social events in general.

  • In reply to JDawg
    Brady4MVP's picture

    JDawg:
    You know, I'd be pissed off about this too if it weren't for the fact that 99% of uber-successful prestige-whoring banker snob chicks are busted (which partially explains why they become so successful in the first place).

    On another note, this whole "Asian networking club" shit pisses me off. By classifying yourself as an Asian and going out of your way to meet exclusively with Asians at Asian-only events, you're only serving to further segregate and isolate Asians from the rest of society (imagine if redheads did that). Also, the country of Asia is so fucking diverse that I don't see how being Chinese means that you automatically have some sort of special connection with a Korean or Filipino anyways.

    Yes Asian people may not have it as great as white people, but let's not pretend like it's any worse than Indians or black people.

    Maybe I slept through geography class, but I wasn't aware that Asia is a country.

    I see no problem with networking events or clubs that cater to Asian-Americans. This does not mean that non-asians are not welcome. They merely serve to connect professionals who share a similar cultural/ethnic background. Do you have a problem with African-American professional organizations?

    I think your assertion that stuff like this segregate Asians from the rest of the population is just absurd. Many of these Asian-American professionals were born and raised here. They are no less American than others just because they look different from the mainstream.

  • In reply to Brady4MVP
    JDawg's picture

    Brady4MVP:
    JDawg:
    You know, I'd be pissed off about this too if it weren't for the fact that 99% of uber-successful prestige-whoring banker snob chicks are busted (which partially explains why they become so successful in the first place).

    On another note, this whole "Asian networking club" shit pisses me off. By classifying yourself as an Asian and going out of your way to meet exclusively with Asians at Asian-only events, you're only serving to further segregate and isolate Asians from the rest of society (imagine if redheads did that). Also, the country of Asia is so fucking diverse that I don't see how being Chinese means that you automatically have some sort of special connection with a Korean or Filipino anyways.

    Yes Asian people may not have it as great as white people, but let's not pretend like it's any worse than Indians or black people.

    Maybe I slept through geography class, but I wasn't aware that Asia is a country.

    That was precisely my point: Asia is not a country. As you probably noticed, I accidentally said "country" instead of "continent".

    I see no problem with networking events or clubs that cater to Asian-Americans. This does not mean that non-asians are not welcome. They merely serve to connect professionals who share a similar cultural/ethnic background. Do you have a problem with African-American professional organizations?

    I think your assertion that stuff like this segregate Asians from the rest of the population is just absurd. Many of these Asian-American professionals were born and raised here. They are no less American than others just because they look different from the mainstream.

    My point is that when you define yourself by your race, and then go to groups/events that consist only of fellow members of your race, what you're doing (whether intentionally or not) is to further separate your race from everybody else. I don't think that race should be a differentiating factor in what sort of people you have relationships with, especially in the workplace. To me, having an Asian Ivy Leaguer group is as absurd as having an Anglo-Saxon Ivy Leaguer, Jewish Ivy Leaguer, or Ivy League Gingers group. Each one implicitly reinforces the message that 1. we're different from everyone else, and even worse: 2. I'll give you special consideration in the workplace (whether that be in hiring, doing business, whatever) because of your race. I understand wanting to connect with people that share your heritage for social reasons, but I don't believe that race should be a basis for giving someone priority for a job (ie. I'm more likely to hire you because you're the same race as me = wrong).

    What makes this more ridiculous for Asians is that Asians aren't particularly underrepresented at top schools and top jobs, so there's even less of an excuse for it.

    Joining an Asian cultural group is fine (although like I mentioned above, Asia isn't a continent so I find that just about as ridiculous as joining an "Americas" group that includes North, Central, and South America). What isn't fine is when your only friends are Asians, you define your life by your race, and then you complain that Asians have it bad. No, Asians don't have it that bad. Short and shy people have it bad.

    Brady4MVP:
    I had no idea Human is asian. Mad props to him for overcoming those obstacles in his dating life. I agree that asian men have it rough in America, worse than any other ethnic group. The media continues to portray them in an unflattering light. And it's still acceptable to be racist towards asian guys while god forbid, you say anything remotely critical about blacks.

    As you can probably tell by now, I completely disagree and think that you are really out of touch with reality for claiming that Asians have it the worst in America. If by "overcoming those obstacles in his dating life" you were referring to his race, then I'd say that being Asian isn't an obstacle, and thus it's kind of insulting to Asian people that you'd even suggest that. I didn't read any of Human's other posts so I realize that I might have misinterpreted what you meant by "obstacles" though.

  • Unforseen's picture

    LOOOOOL at asian men having it rough in America.

  • andres17's picture

    I'm still waiting for bankerella to drop by this post :)

    I'm with you Human. I find it funny that people that earn a high salary think they are above other people and won't date them. I have some requirements too. She has to be intelligent and have a college education at least. I don't care on what. That's because I need someone who can have a conversation with me. But in terms of salary, I am not a gold digger.

    People need to understand that you are not what your job says you are. For all I know, you can lose your job tomorrow and then what? Just because you are a high flyer today does not means you will continue to be. And just because you wear Prada does not make you something special.

    I don't work in finance yet but plan too. Are people in finance really this douchy? What would you say are the percentages of normal people and assholes that think because they went to an Ivy they are superior?

  • In reply to JDawg
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    JDawg:
    As you can probably tell by now, I completely disagree and think that you are really out of touch with reality for claiming that Asians have it the worst in America. If by "overcoming those obstacles in his dating life" you were referring to his race, then I'd say that being Asian isn't an obstacle, and thus it's kind of insulting to Asian people that you'd even suggest that. I didn't read any of Human's other posts so I realize that I might have misinterpreted what you meant by "obstacles" though.

    You should actually try reading this: http://nymag.com/news/features/asian-americans-201.... It is a very long article but you will appreciate the diversity. Asians are not just the "model minority" group that the media hypes up to be. We do have our own set of problems especially in the dating situation, particularly for Asian men.

    "I am the hero of the story. I don't need to be saved."

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    Yea I lost much respect for bankerella with that post. This is legit, and definitely points out your typical, completely fucking retarded girl. I'm pretty sure bankerella falls under that category.

    "You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer
    "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee

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    andres17:
    People need to understand that you are not what your job says you are. For all I know, you can lose your job tomorrow and then what? Just because you are a high flyer today does not means you will continue to be. And just because you wear Prada does not make you something special.

    I have been trying to counsel a friend of mine who did lose his banking job and is having a hard time adjusting because he attaches so much of his self esteem to his job. There was a report somewhere that mentioned that a lot of people committed suicide after the Lehman collapses. These people are so emotionally invested in their jobs that once they lost it, it basically destroy their self worth, both financially and mentally.

    <a href=http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/tag/tyler-durden rel=nofollow>Tyler Durden</a>:
    You are not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your fucking khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world.

    andres17:
    Are people in finance really this douchy? What would you say are the percentages of normal people and assholes that think because they went to an Ivy they are superior?

    Personally, I just feel like most people below VP level have this perceived notion that they are better than other people because of their jobs. Once you went above VP level, with years of experience, humility finally shine through arrogance and people start to really get it - that your job doesn't represent who you are as a person.

    "I am the hero of the story. I don't need to be saved."

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