2023 ADC/APD Summer Programs/Full-Time Applications Thread
Noticed that we don't have a similar thread like previous years for ADC/APD application this year so figured I'd set up one so that so people could ask questions or share updates as they prepare for recruiting season.
Below are relevant firms and ongoing programs.
Summer Programs:
- McKinsey Insight
- Bridge to BCG
- Bain ADvantage
- Connect to Clearview
- Link to LEK
- EMBARK with EY-P
Other firms of interest include:
- Health Advances
- IQVIA
- Putnam
- Clarion
- CRA
Feel free to add in additional firms that are recruiting for PhD but not on this list.
Comments (108)
Has anyone applied for McKinsey Insight and received the game link yet?
Haven't received anything yet from McK. Has anyone heard back from Bain ADvantage yet? Wondering if there is case workshop this year like previous years.
Got Bain ADvantage today, but nothing from McK :(
Only applied to Bain Advantage and BCG Bridge for those types of programs. McK insight is not taking JD's, so did apply to their main summer associate listing.
Heard back with a workshop invite for Bain next week after a few calls
Received game link from McKinsey Insight a few hours ago!
Received the link too! Does everyone get to receive the game invitation?
No, I thought they send it to applicant, but looks not..
Has anyone received any info from Bain ADvantage yet?
The day I hear back from Bain ADvantage I will let you all know. That is my only entrance into consulting so if I get rejected you will likely never hear from me again.
I think even if you don't get into Bain ADvantage, you can still try for FT recruiting! and GOOD LUCK!
I got the Coffee chat and Case Interview Workshop invitation from Bain ADvantage. Nothing from BCG and McK. I thought McK would send the game link for everyone, but still waiting for it.
which office did you receive the case workshop ?
It's not office specific this year. There are couple or time slots you can choose in multiple offices. Email says pick your first prefer office unless you are not available.
Have you completed the game /applied for Mck in the past 12 months? If yes, then they won't let you complete the game again I think.
Yes, I tried McK insight last year. Maybe I'm already fxked up 😢 I bombed the first part last time..
Anyone interviewed with Connect to ClearView? Wondering when I should be expecting the result after interview.
I interviewed with them last Thursday. Haven't heard anything since.
Same here, interviewed last week and haven't heard back yet.
I have 2 questions about the MBB bridge programs for those with some insider insights:
1) For McKinsey insight, if you screw up on the game (did not finish on time, did not meet objectives), does it mean it is over for you even if you have an amazing resume? How much is it weighted and how does the game impact FT recruitment? If I mess up the game, should I even bother to apply full time if I do not get insight?
2) If you not did get invited to Bain workshop, does it mean automatic rejection from their ADvantage program. I submited my app close to deadline.
Thanks!
These are just my opinions:
1) From last year's results, the game is a crucial part of the evaluation or, effectively, round 2 (round 1 being your resume). Most offerees I know did not do too badly in the games.
2) Again, last year a few people got AD/FT interviews without the workshop invitation. Some people who got into the workshop ended up getting no interviews. But in most cases, the workshop could guarantee at least an FT interview last year.
The McKinsey games were really quite difficult and they actually have right and wrong answers so I can see how they use it for weeding people. For the second Redrock (I think that was the name?? Please correct me if I am wrong) Lab game, I finished only 7 of the 10 cases. Does anyone know if not finishing all the cases is an automatic fail?
The Pymetrics games, on the other hand, aren't difficult and there's no right or wrong answer...as far as I can tell. So I have no clue how they use the test to determine a candidate's potential.
I cant just agree with your 1) as the invitation for the game was sent out to all Insight applicants as I know. It cannot be used as 1R screener like FT.
Bridge to BCG invite out for me.
Congrats! Which city did you apply to/were you placed in?
Have not heard back yet. Does it mean a rejection from Bridge to BCG?
edit: rejected :(, generic email. Any one got another type of email?
Application indicated you were considered for the event closest to you for environmental reasons lol. The DC one was the event that sent the invite.
DC is not my first office choice. Don't want to be too identifiable in combo with my above comments with my primary office choice since I cannot comment anonymously yet.(not enough silver bananas)
+1 rejection BCG, Midwest area
Congrats to OP!
Also here with a bridge rejection! Do we think this is a sign not to apply for the regular recruitment cycle? Has anyone heard of applicants getting a rejection and still getting an interview later? I know things are looking very difficult in terms of hiring right now
There are plenty of examples from previous years that got rejected by the summer programs but still got an offer. I know BCG took in a lot of ADCs in FT recruitment last year.
Anyone have idea when Mck Insight will be sent out? It will start Mar31, but still nothing..
website says we should hear back in mid march, so I'd expect to hear back in the next few days..
LEK invites out
My status in the website is still Application received. Do you have change in your status or just invitation go first?
Edited: rejection. Didn't get email yet, but confirmed in LEK website
Just received the rejection letter 🥲
Anyone aware if recruiting is more difficult this year in particular? For both summer and FT positions
Based on anecdotal evidence, yes. The MBBs are definitely slowing hiring this year. They over-hired to keep up with the boom of the past few year's demand (low interest rates, etc.), and with the current turndown, they are overstaffed and looking to trim. Hopefully it bottoms out in the next 12 months and hiring picks up again after.
Someone told me they received the Insight invitation.
Lucky someone :D ! I am not too hopeful, still radio silence for me
Do you know which region that is?
Someone I know in northeast got an invite.
Also heard about someone getting insight invite.
I heard from previous years that someone did not get insight but still got an invitation for first round interview. Wondering if this year there will be some chance like this.
All firms say these kinds of program are separated with FT applications. So, the rejection shouldn't affect your 1st round if you're good enough to pass the screening.
Does insight invites and rejects come out at the same time?
Looking through last year's thread, it seems they were staggered :(
anyone on the west coast received Mck Insight invitation yet?
Yes I did, just today (9am PT)
Anyone Midwest for insight?
Here's my application record so far:
I wouldn't give up on Bain ADvantage yet, no one I know heard anything so far
A couple of people have been invited and completed the case workshop already, so I'm trying to be realistic here (nothing for me)
Any update on Mckinsey Insight or BainAdvantage today?
I am now hoping I can get the official rejection from Insight and ADvantage soon
Agree! Official rejections would help the stress 😅
Looking last year's thread, ADvantage will be sent out next week. The case workshop is till today. Guess Bain make final decision after all of workshops.
Still have yet to hear anything from Bridge to BCG. No invite or rejection or WL. Anyone else in the same boat?
I received McKinsey Insight invite last week, and today an Associate with APD background got in touch with her to schedule a virtual coffee chat.
My Inbox is still silence. Any update ADvantage, Insight (beside Westcoast)?
I think someone mentioned they had heard NE insight had gone out, too
Received an insight rejection today, anyone know if this is a generic rejection or there is still hope for FT position, totally bombed the game.
Thank you for taking the time to apply for our McKinsey Insight 2023 program. While we are very impressed with your application, we are unable to extend an invitation to this particular event. We often have to make difficult choices between many high caliber applicants for limited spots.
If you remain excited to explore opportunities with McKinsey, we hope that we may continue to get to know each other. We encourage you to consider applying for a full-time Associate opportunity as we believe your background could be a strong fit. These applications are open on April 1st, 2023 and will be due mid-June 2023. Since you already have a profile in our system, this should be a quick process! Applications submitted prior to this date will not be considered.
Please also consider filling out our interest form, Connect with McKinsey. This program is a great way to learn more about McKinsey and stay in the know on our upcoming opportunities, including invitations to events.
Got the same email...seems pretty generic to me. But I still think the FT position is worth applying to.
Got same one. Is this different than 'Keep in Touch program last year' or just generic rejection?
I got an even more generic one, but then again I didn't even get the game invite.
Can you share what you got in your email? I also didn't get the game invite since I applied last year and rejected with the following email.
Not sure if they simply changed their rejection form or I got a one-step forward.
Thank you for expressing interest in McKinsey & Company's advanced degree summer programs, which include Insight and/or Diversity Connect. While we appreciate the time you took to submit an application, we unfortunately are unable to invite you to the program(s). We strive to meet applicants from a variety of schools and disciplines, which means we are not able to accommodate everyone. We will not be able to provide individual feedback on this decision.
If you remain interested in our career opportunities, our full-time Associate application deadline is June 15, 2022. Interviews for selected applicants will take place in late August/early September for opportunities with 2023 start dates (or 2024 start dates for MDs).
Thank you again for your interest in McKinsey & Company.
Also got this. Did your email include a paragraph about considering their data science roles?
Yes I did, didnt bother putting it in
Here I share my application record so far:
Got the following email from McK insight:
"Thank you for your application and for expressing interest in engaging with our recruiting team about career opportunities with McKinsey & Company.
After careful consideration of your application, we have concluded that we cannot proceed with your candidacy for the McKinsey Insight 2023 event at this time. A decision such as this is always difficult to make, as it requires us to choose from a group of highly qualified and accomplished individuals, such as yourself.
We encourage you to consider upcoming opportunities to stay connected which include, but are not limited to:
Current Job Opportunities
Connect with us on Real Life at McKinsey
Follow our Careers Blog or McKinsey's featured insights.
Despite this decision, we would like to keep your information on file for possible opportunities with us in the future. If you are not interested, please feel free to let us know.
We regret the disappointing news, but wish you continued success with your career endeavors. Thank you again for your interest in our firm!"
Seems pretty generic to me, but how generic is that sentence where it says they'll keep my information on file for possible opportunities.
I also got this email, too. It seems different from the one that specifically mentions applying so not sure if that is bad lol
Accepted for McKinsey Insight last week, and Associates have reached out to participants scheduling virtual one-on-one chats. In the chat, they stress that Insight is non-evaluative and Insight participants will still have to apply in April separately. They once again confirmed my office preferences, since individual offices have already expressed interest in specific candidates. Selected candidates will also be invited to optional case preparation workshops in April, as well as early round interviews before the June application deadline.
no invite to Bridge to BCG but did offer first round interviews
Is your first round also in May?
Got Bain ADvantage interview email. Two 40 min interview will take place week of Arp.11th.
Congratulations!! If you don't mind sharing, which office did you apply to?
One information in the email I missed was,
"You'll receive details on how to schedule your interview by Tuesday, March 28th."
I guess the official result will be sent Mar. 28th. If you don't hear back anything by end of today, I think the chance is very low.
Has anyone else heard from Bain ADvantage?
Did case prep workshop. Heard nothing this week. Know of a few people who have heard back though, but only yeses and heard back yesterday.
Looking at the past years threads, many people did not share when they got their rejection at this stage, but I saw a comment about receiving the rejection 2 weeks after the case prep workshop, while others were posting the interview invites the week after the workshop. So it is quite possible rejected candidates may have to wait longer. Doesn't leave me with a good feeling.
Edit: Speak of the devil, just got this email for rejection. If anyone got a different one, let me know, I'm curious if there are tiered responses
Hello Name,
Thank you for your interest in our the ADvantage - 2023 Position; we appreciate you considering Bain & Company and taking the time to apply to Bain.
As a firm, we regret to inform you that we are unable to invite you to interview at this time. The volume of applicants has been extremely high, and in order to make the program experience as rewarding as possible, we have to limit the number of participants invited to this year's programs.
We understand this is disappointing news, and hope that you will consider reapplying for full-time employment with Bain & Company.
Name, we appreciate your interest in Bain & Company, and wish you every success in the future.
Warmest regards,
The Recruitment Team
Bain & Company
I'm in the same situation-case workshop, coffee chat, now silence. Unclear whether any further interview invites will go out.
Do you know if any east coast invites are out? Nervous :S
I just received the same rejection email (without any previous emails, no case workshop)
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