Biggest Nepo Hire ever? Dad UBS IB head, Mom Head at KKR, Lands GS
In a sign of the times we now have one of the largest Nepo hires in the history of banking landing a summer internship at GS
Maybe GS is now eyeing a UBS IB spin-off sale to Truist and using this as part of their pre bake-off perks and prep. Also shows UBS is not good enough for even the UBS IB head's own kid.
21st century Mafia
They made a large donation to an Ivy and their son is at that same Ivy, which is telling
Mommy also went to HBS, so I'd be willing to wager that her son is going to HBS after completing his 2 years at GS (and two years in PE)
Yeah they also give to Harvard to secure his eventual HBS seat.
Paying and bribing their way through the world.
Operation Varsity Blues part 2.
People have actually gone to jail for blatant bribery before, so subtle bribery is what’s done nowadays, which is why they get mad when you point out any connection to money and power.
Mommy also on the board of trustees of his high school. Every step of the way.
In Trumps America this is the new standard.
Take over a bussiness, damage it tremendously, then put said family in same bussiness or industry
This has been happening for centuries in America and every other country. Nepotism is not new. Idk what kind of bubble you have ever lived in, but nepotism in finacne particularly is extremely common.
So has murder Johnny, doesn’t make it right.
And they just murdered someone else’s shot at that seat.
true but there's a difference between nepotism and advantage. ken griffey junior is the later while shedeur is the former.
Another TDS weirdo. Acting like nepotism is a brand new concept because trump is in office.
Why is bro talking about bussy-ness?
“Yes, I’d love to be a summer intern in GS FIG team because I would likely be able to source you a $20bn deal”
Candidate: “Yes I’ve always wanted to be a banker since I saw my dad making calls as a banker”
Interviewer: “who’s your dad?”
Candidate: (Northeast humble-bragging) “he runs the IB at a small Swiss investment bank”
Qualified? Potentially
Getting the offer? Abso-fucking-loutely
Very indicative of how GS does a lot of their hiring. It’s a simple job and almost anyone can do it, so might as well bribe businessmen with internships for their sons and daughters for potential deal flow
i.e some calls may have been made
Well in Lloyd-Blankfein’s memoir, he proudly upholds the GS tradition of taking in those considered as family. His own three children all worked at GS at some point in their career. It’s part of the firm’s DNA.
It may have been a reverse bake-off. Bankers show up at his office with the details of their internship offers, adding guarantees like that they wouldnt have to work with H1Bs, would get the best staffing (ROFR on all staffings), and would get to help hire a couple interns himself.
Then he decides which internship to go with
“Father, Should I apply to UBS?”
“No son, I will probably be long gone from there by 2027”
Many nepo kids stay low-key. They work alongside you like a ordinary guy and you dont even know he's the son of some big big people.
Do not piss off your peers during work, he may be crying to his daddy and his daddy may go make a phone call and then poof -- your job is gone and your dad is also fired from his job.
This nepo guy is obviously not low-key. He revealed his cards too early.
That’s so scary. Imagine you are an associate who gives him a task he doesn’t like or doesn’t feel like doing.
A couple calls and your job is gone
This doesn’t happen IRL, it’s not a Mean Girls drama where all the IB senior ppl at different banks gossip about how their sons are doing at other shops
Why are you all acting like this is a "sign of the times"? This has been standard operating procedure since the dawn of finance. Nepos and kids of clients get hired at fkn Stifel for crying out loud.
Just unamerican, where merit is the benchmark and corruption and bribery are frowned upon
Reveals how little the bank actually needs anyone's skills.
Not cool to single this kid out, totally below the belt. Anyone who knows ball has seen something exactly like this play out 1000s of times.
Yes you prefer quiet, closed door, back room nepotism… versus open and obvious nepotism
Didn’t initially realize what you were referring to (terrible grammar buddy) but upon reviewing the full facts, I agree that the kid did not conduct himself “quietly” at all.
I still don’t support singling anyone out on this website (and let me be clear, it’s a disgrace that this thread is still up) but there’s definitely a lesson to be learned there.
Never realized everyone on here hailed from working class backgrounds! My observation is that most junior bankers are from privileged families who are advantaged in some way or the other and would absolutely leverage the connections they need to for a job. Some just have more connections than others. I had none to speak of, to be clear but have found myself in the minority.
This. Everyone was dealt a hand. Some combo of family wealth, connections, brains, health, looks and random lucky breaks. Quality of the hand exists on a bell curve like everything else. Only a small % of people can claim they got a really bad overall hand.
He can probably get any potential girlfriend(s) internships too
I started in banking and sat directly across from a banks CEO’s son. Guy was incredibly smart and hard working. If he does a good job, who cares? Probably a good contact to have later in life anyways.
you forgot Murdoch's own daughters interning at GS?
This is sadly extremely common at GS. TMT is far worse. So many children of client kids and/or partners at PE firms. However, nothing happens b/c the amount they bring in from maintaining the relationship is multiple times that of their cost. One of my closest friends is a nepo at a top BB/EB, and although he works very hard, he has explictly told me his dad (a partner at a UMM) "connected him" with multiple senior partners at the firm who had referrals from.
This thread is nothing short of disheartening...singling out a 20 year old kid who you do not know personally because you are so dissatisfied with your own life. Think about it - you're stalking a kid's LinkedIn, worried about why he is more achieved than you are. Redirect that energy towards finding a job, so that maybe you'll be more satisfied with your own life.
Congrats on LMM or unemployment!! Hope Big4 is treating you well!!
Who are you to say he isn't more hardworking than you? Finally, what else do you want him to do? Not achieve anything?
Just some food for thought.
I do know of him and was close to the process. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
Congrats on UBS!
Spot on. The kid can’t control what family situation he is born into. We all are supposed to play with the cards we are dealt with (whether we like it or not), put the work in — which the kid had to have done — and control what we can control.
Taking the time out of your day to bash another person won’t do anything to advance your career. Use that same energy to get yourself a J-O-B before you come on here talking trash about someone who has something that you don’t.
Roark as a freshmen? Even more sus
Agreed, should be the same treatment for “DEI” hires as well
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Where is Mandami? This can’t be happening in Mandamis NYC
lol why would GS care if they hired the son of UBS banking head. UBS is an afterthought to GS.
Give them deal flow? What deal flow.
Connections? Like GS MDs need to be connected to UBS MDs. Lololol
Kid probably earned it fair and square - trust me, there was nothing to be gained by being connected to inner circle UBS folks.
Mom is a head at KKR, can you fucking read?
Hi
I am sure the head of an investment bank has friends at other investment banks as does the head at KKR. I am also very sure those people are willing to make calls and references for them. GS is full of cases of parents being SMD's at other IB/PE firms. It's probably the most common group in GS. GS SMD kids are also very common. I can tell you don't work at GS if this is how you think.
Super gross to pile on a kid you know nothing about. I can personally attest to his work ethic, attitude, and quality of character. For a guy that could easily coast on the success of his parents, he instead chooses to get after it every single day. He outworks everybody I've ever seen go through the recruiting process. Disgruntled keyboard warriors don't get to define a college sophomore's career before it even starts. Lay off the public slander of 20 year old and stay in your lane.
Working hard isn’t unique and there are thousands of people grinding just as hard, if not harder, without the same visibility or opportunities. Let’s not lie to ourselves here
Cope harder bro. Enjoy Big 4
This sounds like the protectionist coddling he was afforded
Notice the two things the poster didn’t say:
1 The process was completely fair to all candidates involved
2 No one at GS knew who his parent were when he interviewed
This implies he was in the process with everyone else, one of many. He might of been talking to MDs on the team before juniors on the team
if you were in his position, you would take GS...as someone who worked for a top EB (cvp/evr) with 0 connections in finance, this is how the world works and how these firms print. instead of being so butthurt, pull urself up by the bootstraps and be the best u can be
I would avoid his GS group, cause we all know he has already indefinitely locked up top bucket
In the kids defense he has a 4.0 GPA as an economics major from an Ivy League, I think he could’ve landed an internship without his Dads help.
I’ve seen kids with sub 3.0 from schools outside the top 100 get jobs at some of these firms because of a family member imo that’s far more blatant nepotism
Heck, I remember seeing on LinkedIn someone joining his Dad full time at a BB wealth management practice he ran, after getting an associates degree from a community college.
Congrats on passing freshman year Math and English with an A!
Also this and dad being a donor helps
In the age of AI, dumb (but responsible) kids all have 4.0s
Ivy GPA is pointless. The median Harvard GPA is about 3.96. Uchicago is less than 3.4. Harvard having 40%+ kids as legacy / nepo means Im willing to bet these UChicago kids are smarter. Ivy grade inflation is a fucking joke.
Yes some Ivys esp Harvard have As thrown at them. Princeton has awful grade DEflation - do not go there if GPA is important to you - average Econ grading 3.2 average Engineering 3.4.
Why is this important exactly?
Straight from chat gpt:
Because it exposes that the “meritocracy” pitch in banking is mostly branding—and people don’t like being reminded they’re competing in a rigged game.
Strip it down:
1. It undermines the core lie
Banks market recruiting like it’s a clean tournament: GPA, interviews, hustle.
Then something like this pops up and makes it obvious that pedigree + proximity to power can shortcut the entire process.
That’s not a small contradiction—that’s the whole model.
2. It’s rational… and that’s the problem
From the firm’s perspective, it makes perfect sense:
One well-connected hire can be worth more than ten “pure merit” analysts if it helps lock in a relationship with a senior decision-maker or future deal flow.
So they do it. Every time.
Which means fairness isn’t just compromised—it’s irrelevant.
3. It crowds out unseen candidates
Every “relationship hire” implicitly displaces someone else who did everything right and still loses.
You’ll never know their name, but they’re the actual cost of this system.
4. It reveals how small the inner circle is
Top banking/PE isn’t a wide-open market—it’s a network.
Same schools, same families, same donors, same firms recycling influence.
This just makes the loop visible.
5. It destroys trust in the process
Even if the candidate is qualified, it doesn’t matter.
Once people believe outcomes are influenced behind the scenes, the entire process feels performative—networking, interviews, technicals all start to look like theater.
This post is so weird and stalkerish and it should honestly be taken down. You are acting like this 20 year old kid is now next in line to be CEO after Solomon. The kid will be an intern at a bank that takes thousands of interns every summer, and if they go back full-time, they will complete a 2-year analyst program and likely move on to something else, like basically everyone else in their class. Ofc GS is a great opportunity, but he is still gonna be an analyst doing analyst work like every other intern, and will most likely do a good job considering his background (great school, smart parents, etc).
Nepotism happens every cycle at GS - it's a known thing that nepo is big there, and honestly, I'd say it's almost part of the allure. Legit, anyone who possesses average intelligence can learn the 400 questions if they want. So the technical aptitude required for these roles is not that prohibitive, and never was the main criteria for analyst selection at GS. But by attracting kids from influential families, GS is able to uphold its reputation and strengthen the networking opportunities that its analyst program provides. Having influential kids as your analysts is what differentiates Goldman's program from some of the others, and most of these nepo kids will be successful later on, so being able to network with them in your 20s is an asset to others at the bank. The financial models at GS vs some random bank will look very similar, but the networking opportunities from both analyst programs are worlds away from each other.
Want to see what actual egregious nepotism looks like? Look at Cantor Fitzgerald. Lutnick's sons legit running that bank is jokes lol.
Lay off this kid, though- there are 1000x worse examples of nepo finance than him.
Hes not a kid, hes a grown ass adult.
Operation cover-up out in full force
You are coming at a sophomore in college what are you doing you freak
Yes bro, I'm sure the heads at GS are scurrying to cover up a random thread of disgruntled interns on WSO. How conceited and retarded do you have to be to have this take lmao.
You can debate nepotism and meritocracy without identifying someone on a post as courtesy. Just my 2 cents
No one has been identified by name. It’s one of those if you know, you know. If you don’t know you don’t know
It's really not an IYKYK situation, it took me less than 20 seconds to figure out who it was just from reading the thread.
Of course it's not "fair" but it's extremely ahistorical to pretend this some unique 21st century affliction.
The origin of high finance is literally a history of hautes banques d'affaires founded and run by syndicates of inter-marrying Great Houses. The names of these people are literally still the names on the doors of most of your employers. These people give 0 fucks what a bunch of aspirational salarymen on the Internet think about this topic. If you don't like it, start your own fucking investment bank.
Meritocracy is for inventive American things like railroads and burger joints and enterprise software, high finance has always always always been a relationship game between capital networks of elite families.
This is the corruption they hide behind when they talk about merit and grinding.
They don’t want the public to know what is going on behind the scenes.
A much more egregious one is a Tech MD placing his own son at the bank from a noname liberal arts school (Lafayette) this summer
He made the juniors on the team coffee chat his son
D - Rich kids
E - Rich kids
I - Rich kids
Yea... I haven't been on this forum in 4-5 years and came back for nostalgic purposes hoping to see the current chatter. Echoing some of the other folks on here, this is one of the most disappointing posts I've seen in a long time. I was hoping that this site would be immune from the type of rage bait + random bullsh** call-outs that infect social media in our modern day and age but... I guess not.
First of all - OP and those who are overly-focused on this one individual... similar to what others have expressed on this thread: it is weird to have posted this level of specific detail about an individual, it's weird to have the expressed amount of antagonism towards an individual let alone one who is evidently qualified regardless of the seemingly nepotistic context, and it's weird for anyone without knowledge of any details to weigh in negatively given the potential implications for an individual at the start of their career (regardless of demonstrated talent or potential).
Second of all - I have a very specific issue whenever folks claim "NEPOTISM" without first understanding the following: sure, there will be the odd duck in every analyst class within a given group at x bank, but, in my experience, those were equally as likely to be folks benefitting from nepotism (apples who fell far from the tree of their very accomplished parents - by definition) as they were to be folks with great resumes and who show up well in interviews yet actually suck at the job in practice (note, I'm not calling out DEI programs by implication here; I'm talking all kinds of people who are just awful for whatever reason, yes it happens). I was at one of the top banks for my analyst stint, which at the time had a massive analyst class globally, of which the majority were concentrated in the US on relative basis. I was in the top group (as determined by the common wisdom on this very site), spread across a few different locations in the US... you know how many people qualified as "nepotism-hires"... on average (meaning this was not evenly distributed across geos), 1-2 (max 3; one location) analysts in a given region. The US-wide analyst class for my group consisted of 45-50 analysts. Rather than let you guess, I'll tell you how many of the nepo-hires were considered top-bucket: almost all of them (85%+).
Point of the above - the cover doesn't give you free license to judge the book. In this case, and based on my experience (which I recognize is one anecdotal data point of a great many)... being petty online via unsubstantiated assumptions and wildly specific call-outs only reveals that you have no personal interaction with the category of people you're derisively posting about. It's also just... so strange. It's not like LinkedIn has categories for your Mom and Dad, so this must have required a level of research that (yes, while being fairly easy to do) is simply bizarre if you take a step back and look at how one has spent their free time.
This is truly some weirdo stuff. If you do the math based on my experience, three things are simultaneously true and not all that difficult to reconcile: 1) there IS hiring based on nepotism (regardless of talent), 2) those nepotism hires represent a very small percentage of people hired in the top groups at the top banks, and 3) these are really, really competitive jobs, and for those who don't benefit from nepotism (aka the vast majority of folks; I personally am in this category, see prior posts), the line separating those who get the job and those don't is wildly unsubstantial and, in most cases, arbitrary once you get beyond a certain level of quality within the applicant pool during the recruiting process. Yes, I know there are target schools and that there's a whole embedded hierarchy there... but that's been known, and folks from different undergrad backgrounds (let alone family backgrounds) have workable (if decidedly unfair, given any combo of factors) pathways to achieve what they want to. To conclude this portion: again, I'd never assert things are inherently fair...
Third of all, and lastly - this has been loosely discussed on this thread, so anyone who has attempted to speak on this and who feels as though the statement I'm about to make contradicts the point you've made, it's not personal and I just wanted to clarify: from a strategic standpoint, the reason why these nepotism folks get hired, assuming they are entirely unqualified, is not due to the benefit THEY will bring to the bank. Look at it from a top-down standpoint, with some potential future benefit; most often, nepo-hires who come in as analysts - those who are objectively unqualified and/or bad at their job - are brought in because that's the bare minimum requirement from the bank's POV of developing/maintaining the (potentially) beneficial relationships they have/are seeking to have. To be clear: there is no inherent strategic benefit from hiring the analyst; consistent with the point I made above, even if said nepo-hires are qualified and present as high-potential, the nepo-hires do not get hired because of the value the bank expects THEM to provide. If they end up in a really consequential role endowed with a ton of $$ resources and/or decision-making power, then sure that's great down the line, but, by definition, nepo-hires are nepo-hires because of the immediate networking benefit that said nepotism implies.
The third point above perhaps provides fodder for those rage-bait focused idiots who are entirely unserious - aka OP and many other not-thoughtful contributors to the subsequent conversation - but I had to set the record straight (at least around the mechanics). This is supposed to be an informational website, like it was when I first discovered it when I was an aimless and ill-informed undergrad, and I had to do my part to inject a semblance of primary-source sanity here.
Otherwise, the TL;DR takeaway from all of my musings above - directed primarily at those who call out random kids at the beginning of their careers and hide behind plausible deniability because "oh god no one mentioned their name, we just mentioned where their mother and father work and where they landed a job so it's no hard feelings!!!!": Congratulations, you are cowards, and any negative sentiment expressed on this thread at any kind of conceptual level using this individual as some kind of avatar or projection of disappointment in your own selves is exactly that. Anyone who identifies with that prior sentence should look in the mirror... no matter how young you are, the longest battle you have to fight in this life is the one you have to fight with yourself, and if a few minutes of basic reflection doesn't open your eyes to how you might feel if you were walking in this person's shoes (yes, regardless of how privileged)... not sure how to say this, but there are many options available on how to move forward but you don't deserve much.
Grow up. Outside of substantive, consistently occurring, credible allegations of malicious behavior, this kind of online anonymous commentating is nasty stuff, regardless of who it happens to.
not reading allat gang
This is a ridiculous and bloated rant that tries to bully anyone who disagrees. All you’re doing is dodging the obvious and hiding behind anecdotes and moral lectures. The whole thing looks like someone who’s way too invested in defending a system they benefit from, then bashing anyone who doesn’t buy the narrative. The closing bit about “cowards” and “look in the mirror” is just cringe. It makes you sound insecure and desperate to shut down a conversation you clearly can’t win on the merits.
I actually directly acknowledge the obvious, multiple times. Folks who get hired due to certain connections or network contacts - familial or otherwise - are just that... it literally does happen, I made no effort to deny that whatsoever. Is that explicitly less than fair, and, to a great degree, highly unfair? Yes. I agree.
Similarly, I make no effort to hide behind moral anecdotes. I say in no uncertain terms that my experience is one anecdotal data point amongst countless others.
Basically - I have no vested interest in defending the system. I neither benefitted from it, nor do I deny its existence. In my ideal world, this thread and others like it wouldn't be necessary since in that world fair and balanced hiring processes would exist.
Quite literally, the ONLY point of my post is that individuals shouldn't be called out like this unless there's legitimately nefarious behavior involved. If I put myself in the shoes of any 20-21 year old college student, regardless of level of privilege it simply feels unfair and I wouldn't want it to happen to me. Online communities should aspire to a higher level of integrity than that.*
*otherwise, my anecdotes were trying to provide (anonymous, unsubstantiated to everyone here but myself, temporal, and, yes, anecdotal) counterpoints to generate a richer discussion
I hope my intent to be intellectually honest in any responses comes through here, as I tried to address the points you brought up directly. All is fair... at the end of the day I only saw a need to clarify. Thanks for your comment.
TLDR;
words words.. Nepotism good..
words words.. don’t question any nepotism..
words words.. maybe he doesn’t suck?..
words words.. easy job anyways..
words words.. nothing to see here
Okay Marco, now get UBS M&A working
Guide to defending Nepohires
Posting about Nepohires without an example: Doesn’t really happen that much, I don’t know what your are talking about, doesn’t happen
Posting about Nepohires with an example: Not cool to call anyone out, you are weird
I'm hoping to clarify since you evidently thought this was a useful post to birth into the world:
Point being - on an individual level, this thread is messed up. Broadly, not a single commenter I've observed - including myself - has actually said, "oh yea this shit is fine generally let it be but f anyone who has a problem with it." The whole point has been about the individual - harm which, seemingly, based on others who have vouched for this person, is entirely undeserved. Honestly, whether the kid is qualified or not the whole point of the back and forth in this thread is whether an individual in these circumstances deserves to be dragged like this... I, for one, would argue absolutely not.
Meh. We all know it happens, and not just in this industry. What matters is whether the nepo baby performs well.
One of the best interns I ever worked with was a nepo baby whose dad was some big shot at KKR. She was whip smart and worked hella hard.
It's a bit like comparing HYPS kids to state school kids. The average nepo baby is probably going to be less capable than the average nobody who had to hustle to actually make it big. But you can sure as shit find a lot of nepo babies who would be knocking it out of the park regardless of who their parents were.
all things aside u gotta be bottom bucket to have the time to research and make a whole post about this…
Nothing wrong with using nepotism in your favor if you're able to. I'm often surprised by folks I know who chose not to use it when they had a chance (granted some of it can be due to potentially screwing up a business relationship for their parents which I get, i.e. have them hire you as a favor and them going back to your parents for a favor that might be outlandish).
Not sure why everyone’s hating on this kid when he seems fully qualified. Ivy League school with a 4.0, 1570 SAT, school investment fund, etc. I guarantee if any of your parents had the power to get you an internship at GS you would take it.
Thousands of people with that profile get dinged
Just described about 500 kids
When I was in college I, like many of you kids now, was disheartened by all the nepo kids in finance. As I grew older, I realized that was a stupid and naive POV. Some points:
Isn’t the UBS Co President son going to KKR too? Or at KKR
Last time I checked, all the DEI threads that kept popping up during the Biden years were complaining that all these SA seats were going to kids of well off black families instead of the disadvantaged. But now that the culture has changed with Trump in charge, apparently getting an extra advantage from daddy and mommy is no big deal.
Nepo definitely helps open doors, but staying there is a different story. Plenty of well-connected interns still don’t convert if they can’t perform. That said, yeah — getting that first shot is 90% of the battle.
Sure, it might be unfair. But honestly, who's pulling 70–100 hour weeks, even if it’s low stress because the MD has your back, when your family is sitting on a 9-figure net worth? I definitely wouldn't. I’d be on the first flight to Europe to just chill in France or Greece with some Superm on my boat.
That just makes him even more of a hardo
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