Incoming freshman at a semi-target, what would you tell your younger self?

Hey all, I'm an incoming freshman at Fordham with an intended major in economics and am planning to transfer to finance. To state the obvious, I know that as an econ major I won't have as much access to the Fordham pipeline, I also know as a lower semi-target Fordham won't offer the same level of outcomes as usual target schools meaning that I will need to put in more work to achieve a similar result. I'm up to the challenge though and would like to start my time with a clearer horizon rather than feeling out what I need to do over the next 2 years via trial and error.

If you currently go or went to Fordham I’d love to hear about your experience and what actually worked. If you went to a different non-target and figured out a method on breaking in I’d also be grateful for your input too. 

Here’s my list of questions:

Regrets / what you'd do differently

  • What do you wish you'd started freshman fall instead of freshman spring (or sophomore year)?
  • Anything you spent a ton of time on that turned out to be low-signal for recruiting?
  • Anything you didn't do because it seemed too early/aggressive that you now realize you should've just done?

Before school even starts

  • Anything worth setting up, reading, learning, or reaching out about this summer before I set foot on campus?
  • Is there value in cold-emailing/LinkingIn alumni before classes start, or does that come off as try-hard before you have anything to show for it?

Freshman year specifics

  • What actually matters freshman year for someone who wants to be a competitive sophomore-summer/junior-summer recruit GPA cutoffs to hit early, specific clubs, case comps, whatever.
  • Any relationship between Lincoln Center and Rose Hill e.g. where recruiting is most targeted or whether competition between the two campuses is fierce

Lesser-known stuff

  • Bank-run events I might not find just googling: spring weeks, insight days, sophomore programs, info sessions that aren't heavily advertised. Even things like bank-sponsored sports/case tournaments. Anything that's more I know a guy rather than it being on the career center calendar
  • Fordham-specific traditions or feeder relationships with certain groups/banks that aren't obvious from outside.

Professors / academics

  • Who's worth going out of your way to take (for recruiting-relevant credibility, letters of rec, or just genuinely useful finance instruction), are there any notoriously hard classes, what's the grading like?

Resources

  • What's actually useful, Gabelli-specific resources, GBS clubs, alumni databases, career center services, whatever versus stuff that sounds good on paper but nobody actually uses.

Clubs

  • How does role progression typically work in the investment/finance clubs (IBS, GIA,or anything else that could be useful) Is it worth trying to fast-track into a leadership or stock-pitch-heavy role early?

General tips/tricks

  • Anything else networking scripts that actually get responses, how honest to be about wanting to transfer into Gabelli when talking to alumni, lesser known points of failure in the recruiting timeline, anything you'd tell a younger version of yourself.
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Based on the most helpful WSO content, here’s a breakdown of advice tailored to your situation as an incoming freshman at Fordham, a semi-target school:

Regrets / What You’d Do Differently

  1. Start Early: Many regret not starting networking and skill-building in their freshman fall. Begin reaching out to alumni, joining clubs, and learning technical skills immediately.
  2. Focus on GPA: A strong GPA (ideally 3.7+) is critical for competitive recruiting. Don’t underestimate the importance of academics early on.
  3. Avoid Low-Signal Activities: Spending too much time on activities that don’t directly contribute to recruiting (e.g., overly niche clubs or irrelevant coursework) can be a waste. Focus on high-impact clubs and internships.

Before School Even Starts

  1. Cold-Emailing Alumni: Reaching out to alumni before classes start can be valuable if done tactfully. Focus on learning about their experiences rather than asking for favors. It shows initiative without coming off as overly aggressive.
  2. Learn Technical Skills: Use the summer to get familiar with Excel, financial modeling, and basic accounting. Free resources or WSO’s financial modeling courses can give you a head start.
  3. Read and Research: Books like Investment Banking by Rosenbaum & Pearl or Monkey Business can provide insights into the industry. Also, familiarize yourself with Fordham-specific resources and clubs.

Freshman Year Specifics

  1. What Matters Most:
    • GPA: Aim for a 3.7+ to stay competitive.
    • Clubs: Join finance-related clubs like IBS (Investment Banking Society) or GIA (Global Investment Association). These are often feeders for internships and networking opportunities.
    • Networking: Start building relationships with alumni and upperclassmen. Attend info sessions, bank-run events, and case competitions.
  2. Lincoln Center vs. Rose Hill: Understand where your classes and resources are concentrated. Rose Hill typically has more finance-related activity, so leverage that campus for networking and events.
  3. Hidden Opportunities:
    • Look for spring weeks, insight days, and sophomore programs hosted by banks. These are often under-advertised but can be found through alumni or club connections.
    • Participate in case competitions and bank-sponsored events, even if they seem small. They’re great for networking and resume-building.

Professors / Academics

  1. Key Professors: Seek out professors with industry experience or strong alumni connections. They can provide valuable insights and letters of recommendation.
  2. Grading and Classes: Be strategic about your course load. Avoid overloading yourself with notoriously hard classes in your first semester to maintain a strong GPA.
  3. Finance Instruction: Take introductory finance and accounting courses early. These will help you prepare for technical interviews.

Resources

  1. Gabelli-Specific Resources: Utilize the career center, alumni database, and any mentorship programs offered. These are often underutilized but can be game-changers.
  2. Clubs: Focus on clubs with strong alumni networks and clear paths to leadership roles. Leadership positions in finance clubs can significantly boost your resume.
  3. Career Services: Schedule regular meetings with career advisors to stay on track with recruiting timelines.

Clubs

  1. Role Progression: Aim to take on leadership roles or participate in stock-pitch competitions early. These experiences are highly valued by recruiters.
  2. Fast-Tracking: If possible, get involved in high-impact roles within clubs like IBS or GIA. These often lead to direct connections with alumni and internship opportunities.

General Tips/Tricks

  1. Networking Scripts: Be concise and genuine in your outreach. Focus on learning about the alumni’s experiences rather than immediately asking for help.
  2. Honesty About Transferring: When speaking to alumni, it’s okay to mention your interest in transferring to Gabelli, but frame it as a desire to deepen your finance knowledge rather than dissatisfaction with your current program.
  3. Recruiting Timeline: Stay aware of key recruiting deadlines, especially for sophomore and junior internships. Missing these can be a major setback.

Final Thoughts

  • Be Proactive: The earlier you start, the better positioned you’ll be. Don’t wait for opportunities to come to you—seek them out.
  • Leverage Alumni: Fordham’s alumni network can be a powerful tool if used effectively. Build genuine relationships and stay in touch.
  • Stay Resilient: Breaking into finance from a semi-target requires persistence. Don’t get discouraged by setbacks.

By following these steps, you’ll set yourself up for success and maximize your chances of landing competitive internships and offers. Good luck!

Sources: 5 Steps To Becoming A Rockstar Freshman (Undergrad Advice), UCLA Undergrad for IB Recruiting, Advice I give to my incoming analysts, Why you should consider Notre Dame for undergrad

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